Posts Tagged ‘Herman Cain
Herman Cain Is Running for VICE President
I have struggled with writing this post for two weeks now because I didn’t want it to be true, but I am now convinced Herman Cain is really running for Vice President.
I’ve now heard back from about a dozen friends in the political world who have all been trying to reach someone at the Cain campaign to volunteer as field organizers for Cain in Iowa — and the Cain campaign has responded back to none of them. All of these people were willing to spend their Christmas holiday season on the ground working field offices for Cain — for free — in Iowa, and one of them has been trying to reach someone within the Cain campaign for seven weeks now.
None of these people have gotten any sort of a response — not even an acknowledgment that their messages were received and that someone would get back to them.
In Atlanta, several friends have been trying to volunteer at Cain’s headquarters and have similarly been ignored. I’ve never seen a campaign turn down volunteers, especially professional ones who’ve attached their accomplished resumes to their emails that show how valuable they would be to a campaign.
All of this is very similar to the operation that Joe Biden ran in 2008 — when he ran for Vice President, not President, in the leadup to the Iowa Caucus.
Immediately after the Caucus, Biden withdrew from the race and directed his supporters to back Barack Obama…in what was the first direct overture from Biden for the Vice Presidency. The entire “Biden ’08″ effort was just to get his name out there and put him on the national stage so that he’d
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Herman Cain Says He Would Consider Vice President Job
I just saw this on WorldNetDaily:
“In the interview with talk-radio host Michael Savage in which Cain was expected to make a major announcement, Savage asked, “If someone else were chosen to run for the presidency, Mr. Cain, would you accept the VP slot?”
“It depends upon who’s asking and the conditions in which they would like for me to do it,” Cain responded. “First, I would want to know clearly what my role would be. Secondly, if we are ideologically and idea-wise so far apart, I couldn’t do that, because I believe the vice president should be a spokesperson for the president.”
He added that Mitt Romney has a 59-point economic growth plan “that’s got all kinds of stuff in it.”
“I don’t agree with that,” Cain said. “So, right now, today, I could not be out there, helping him promote his 59-point economic jobs plan. I couldn’t do that. I like him as a businessman. If he gets [the nomination], I am going to support him. But I’d have to work with someone that I could complement, not someone that wants to put me in a role that I would not want to do.”“
Live Blog Transcript: GOP presidential debate in Michigan November 9th, 2011 at Oakland University
POST DEBATE COVERAGE: 1000pm EST and 900pm CST on HillBuzz & Mrs. Fox — click here to listen
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What: Live Blog Transcript of GOP presidential debate in Michigan on November 9th, 2011 at Oakland University
When: Wednesday, Nov. 9, 8 p.m. EST and 7pm CSTon CNBC
Who: Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Jon Huntsman, and Willard Mittens Romneycare debate
Check Back: for a live blog transcript of the debate when it begins
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The debate begins at 8pm EST and 7pm CST…I’ll do a live blog transcript of the debate in this thread. In the meantime, use the comments below to tell us what you are going to be looking for as you watch the debate tonight.
After the debate is over, join us on The HillBuzz & Mrs. Fox Show for post-debate live coverage. You can listen to the show on your computer or call-in at (818) 431-8248 to listen to the coverage on your phone (or stream it as a podcast when it’s archived later tonight).
The feed I’ll be using is the CNBC site (unless someone suggests a better one).
NOTE: I would LOVE to watch this on a site not owned by NBC…does anyone know if there is a CSPAN or other link for the feed?
7oopm CST: It’s awful to have to listen to anything on a network of NBC, but the Republican Party keep stupidly treating these NBC networks as legitimate news networks instead of what they really are — the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party.
Live from Oakland University Campus in Oakland, Michigan.
The Democrat-Controlled Media and Herman Cain: Who Are You Going To Believe?
This election will be / is a scorched-earth campaign. The Dems will burn down every building in America if they believe that it will help them win the election.
Manufacturing “witnesses” is easy… Judas was bought and paid for.
The “October Surprise” tactics are coming out early.
Stupid rock-ribbed conservatives… The Bush DUI story on the eve of the election almost cost him the Presidency. That DUI was a long-time earlier, and Bush had repented, sobered up, and become a devout Christian, but because the knee-jerk reaction of the moral majority, they didn’t vote for the hypocrite Bush, when their Christianity should have DEMANDED that they accept his long-standing repentance and so vote for Bush.
If today’s Republicans can’t see that the lying-cheating-stealing PRESS Democrat-Controlled Media are doing everything they can to scuttle anyone who may threaten Obama’s 2nd term, then they deserve to be defeated and have Obama oversee the final destruction of their remnant of America.
The PRESS Democrat-Controlled Media are LIARS. Liberal Dems are happy to help them destroy candidates. The Cocktail Party Reps are in bed with them, too.
The Cocktail Party is to the Democrat Party like the Washington Generals are to The Harlem Globetrotters; they make a good living by always losing to the “home team” after making it look like they tried hard.
Gloria Allred showed up in the last days of the 2010 California election to throw an illegal-alien maid under the bus to service her beloved Democrat Party. It may have contributed to the Republican loss.
Now Allred is showing up with accusers who have no court case, not even CIVIL courts, so where is the money? Somebody is giving out $B$I$IG$ to lots of people to make it happen.
OWS? It’s a stage magician’s distraction to get people’s eyes off Obama and the Dems so they can operate more freely. Now ask yourself where the $M$O$NE$Y$ for the gourmet catering in all those cities is coming from? Somehow, the PRESS Democrat-Controlled Media is not curious about it.
How do all these Cain accusers find the money to do things like fly to California and be in press conferences with Allred? Who is paying the freight?
If the Republicans allow themselves to be tricked into swallowing the lies of the PRESS Democrat-Controlled Media and the Dems, that Cain, or any candidate, is bad / immoral / what ever, then the Reps deserve to lose everything, and be taxed 100% while Dems get paid government money in several more rounds of Porkulous.
Decide who you want to believe:
(1) the PRESS Democrat-Controlled Media who always is surprised at the high unemployment numbers (3 years running) but predict a good outlook next month, only to be surprised by the disappointing unemployment numbers again, but next month will be better
(2) your own eyes.
Like a jealous teenager, the PRESS Democrat-Controlled Media and the Dems will do and say anything to ruin a candidate who the Reps may like that could beat Obama in the 2012 Presidential Election.
Don’t be stupid!
Don’t fall for it.
Great Merciful Zeus: Sharon Bialek has history of predatory sexual behavior of her own!
Bill Kurtis, a CBS anchor, talked on Mark Levin’s radio show this past Monday about Sharon Bialek’s predatory sexual history of her own.
Apparently, Kurtis believes the story Bialek’s telling could have been reversed…with HER making the predatory, unsolicited sexual advances on Herman Cain.
A lot more will come out about this story, and about the manner in which Bialek conducted herself through the years.
As the agenda-driven media always likes to say when it’s convenient for them: take all sides into consideration and decide for yourself.
Analysis of Herman Cain’s press conference on the attacks launched against him
Check back in a bit for video of the press conference as soon as it becomes available (and include a link to it in the thread below if you don’t see it posted here).
I watched the press conference as it aired live, but will have more to say after I’ve had the chance to review it again.
Here are my initial thoughts — and I invite you to add yours in the comments below.
First off, I’m struck by how presidential Herman Cain seems. I am riveted when I listen to him and I applaud his directness. In my lifetime, we’ve never had a president like this — and that’s a great thing. He talks and acts like a CEO, which is who we need to run the country right now. I pictured a President Cain delivering a State of the Union Address and for the first time in many years I bet that speech would actually mean something and be worth watching. I want Herman Cain in office and I believe in him…as well as believe him.
Regarding the allegations lobbed at him, it’s clear to me the agenda-driven media decided Herman Cain was too much of a threat to Barack Obama and thus needed to be destroyed before the first voting contests in the Republican primaries.
I also think the timing of this attack on Cain was decided upon in the “JournoList” circles because Willard Mittens Romneycare needed attention taken off of him the last two weeks. Remember, today is the day that Ohioans voted on the Issues 2 and 5 ballot measures, and on October 25th Romneycare flip-flopped on his support for curtailing public sector union power (before reversing his position yet again on October 26th).
If not for the attacks on Cain this week, scrutiny would have been applied to Mittens in the lead up to this vote…instead, the public forgot all about the Ohio Union ballot measures and focused on the attacks on Herman Cain.
Don’t you think that’s too much of a coincidence to NOT be intentional?
The only thing I didn’t like about Cain’s press conference was the deference she showed Willard Mittens Romneycare. I still have this nagging suspicion that Herman Cain could be in this race to divide the anti-Romney vote, so that Mittens can squeak through to a win in the Republican nominating contest. There is a small part of me that is afraid that Herman Cain is really running to be Vice President for Mittens — and that concerns me greatly.
I’ve talked to people I respect greatly who were part of the Tea Party Express and had a great deal of interaction with Cain and they have assured me that Cain is serious about his presidential run and is not aiming to be VP. But, I still don’t know, especially when Cain deliberately refuses to punch back at Mittens…on a day when Mittens took a shot at Cain. This is vexing and believe me, it’s something I am watching closely in the days to come.
I believe 100% that the Romneycare campaign was behind prompting the Politico story to drop when it did, because if Politico was left to its own devices this story would have broken in December right before the Iowa Caucus…or it would have been held in reserve for October 2012 when Cain was the Republican nominee. The only person who was really helped out by this story dropping now was Willard Mittens Romneycare. Therefore, I think it’s highly likely that his campaign had something to do with this — and I also believe those same operatives did their level best to pin the attack on the Perry campaign, as a way for the Romney guys to damage two rivals at once. This is precisely the sort of move the Cocktail Party GOP establishment would make, since it’s the sort of thing they’ve done in the past.
I find it interesting that the Left, the agenda-driven media, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment forever use sex scandals to attack black men. This is similar to what was done to Clarence Thomas, and something that keeps popping up whenever a black conservative needs to be destroyed because he is threatening the Left’s hold on black voters.
I also find it very interesting that sex scandals are the weapon of choice to destroy men that Barack Obama does not want to run against in an upcoming election.
Remember back to 2006 when Jack Ryan was on course to win the Senate seat here in Illinois. Mysteriously, his sealed divorce records were released and his campaign was destroyed by claims from his ex-wife, actress Jeri Ryan (from Star Trek), that Jack Ryan wanted to have exhibitionist sex with her in public and she refused. So, the whole scandal involved a Republican man who was on track to beating Obama in the election expressing a sexual fantasy to his wife that she objected to in her divorce filing. The media turned that into a major scandal for Ryan — and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment in Illinois cowardly cut Ryan loose and made him withdraw from the race because of it.
I need to put the following in bold so that the importance of it registers: IF THE ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT HAD NOT ABANDONED JACK RYAN BECAUSE OF THAT MANUFACTURED SCANDAL, THEN BARACK OBAMA WOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT TODAY.
This is important because here we go again.
Herman Cain would do more damage to the Democrat Party as the Republican nominee than many of you realize.
In debates, he would clean Obama’s clock…and he’d convince a great many black voters to just sit home on election day, since they’d be fine with Cain winning the presidency (even if they couldn’t buck their cultural conditioning to always vote Democrat and would thus be reluctant to pull the lever for a Republican). Cain would no doubt win more black votes than any Republican in history…but more importantly, he would keep at least a million blacks coast to coast home on election day next year since they’d think “we win either way, with Obama or Cain…we’d have a black president no matter who wins, so why should we bother going all the way down there to vote?”.
This is critical because black voters (and the urban Democrat elite who like to paint themselves as being very attuned to the black community, even though they have a general NIMBY attitude towards interactions with actual black people) are such a key part of the Democrat Party’s Jenga-tower identity bloc makeup. If blacks don’t turn out in numbers greater than 2008 for Obama, he’s toast in the general election.
Herman Cain would pull black votes while simultaneously convincing other black voters to just sit home next year.
The Left can’t allow that to happen, so it wants to destroy Herman Cain.
The agenda-driven media won’t allow Barack Obama to lose because the media invested so much into his election, so it wants to destroy Herman Cain.
The Willard Mittens Romneycare campaign and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment that backs him know Herman Cain would thwart their plans to install Mittens as the latest “it’s his turn” nominee, so they seek to take Herman Cain down before he wins a primary.
That last one is the most important, because you need to remember what the Cocktail Party GOP establishment decided to do to Jack Ryan in 2006.
Yes, the Left attacked Jack Ryan with a sex scandal using sealed documents that somehow the Obama campaign got ahold of.
Yes, the agenda-driven media ran with that story to destroy Jack Ryan to benefit Barack Obama.
But, it was the Cocktail Party GOP establishment that sank the Ryan campaign and demanded he withdraw from the race. In his stead, the Cocktail Party ran an “it’s his turn” candidate that didn’t connect with voters and that no one on the ground here in Illinois wanted as the nominee.
Just look at what the Cocktail Party GOP establishment is doing to Herman Cain…and think about how much the Cocktail Party wants Willard Mittens Romneycare to be the “it’s his turn” nominee to lose to Barack Obama in the next election. This is Alan Keyes all over again.
For anyone who thinks Herman Cain should just bow out because the Left, the agenda-driven media, and the Romneycare campaign have ginned up this controversy against him, I’d love you to respond in comments below and answer this question: Do you, in retrospect, think it was smart for the Cocktail Party establishment to demand Jack Ryan resign from the 2006 Senate race?
Do you also think it was a good idea to take Jack Ryan out of the race, when Obama was afraid of running against him, and giving Obama what he wanted in that race resulted in Obama’s positioning for the presidency in 2008?
Do you see how obviously and directly the Left, the agenda-driven media, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment conspire to destroy people who are a threat to Barack Obama?
Live blog transcript of Sharon Bialik Gloria Allred press conference (so you don’t have to actually watch this garbage yourself)
UPDATE: Gloria Allred’s client’s name is Sharon Bialek. Her name might be spelled either “Bialek” or “Bialik”.
Here’s a live blog transcript of Gloria Allred’s press conference today, November 7th 2011 (so you don’t have to actually listen to this garbage yourself):
1249pm CST: Still waiting for Gloria Allred to materialize
She emerges….with a blond woman in tow
Whenever I see Allred, I think she’s Leona Helmsley for a few moments until I remember that Helmsley’s dead.
The accuser is Marilyn Vialek. [ UPDATE: Her name is actually Sharon Bialik. Because of Gloria Allred's enunciation skills, it took about an hour to figure out what the woman's name actually is. ]
Helmsley Allred says that Vialek lives in Chicago and worked for the National Restaurant Association in the Education Department. She looks to be about 60 or so and Allred claims she worked as a TV host and worked in radio in the past, and is a registered Republican. Vialek’s wearing a long necklace of what I believe are paperclips strung together, the kind small children or people bored at work make.
Allred says she has Vialek’s business card that proves she’s a businesswoman. A businesswoman who wears necklaces made of paperclips. Okrrr.
Vialek worked at the Restaurant Association in 2006-2007, when the Association fired her for not raising enough money in a development position she was in. [ NOTE: There's more poor enunciation from Gloria Allred here. I've listened to this clip a few times, and I still can't make sense of what Allred and Bialik are saying: later in the press conference, Bialik says all this happened in 1997, not 2007 as Allred said. At a later point, Allred said this all happened 14 years ago, so maybe she misspoke when she said it was 2007. Or, Gloria Allred has no idea what the heck she's doing or what she's saying sometimes. You be the judge. ]
Allred said that Vialek did not like being fired.
Vialek apparently went to a luncheon where Herman Cain was speaking and she asked him for help getting a job.
Allred said that Cain “showed her a stimulus package” instead.
Allred claims that Cain “serial sexually harasses women”…or maybe it’s that he sexually harasses women with cereal. Will have to wait for the official transcript from Allred to be sure.
1257pm, Gloria Allred holds pieces of paper in the air and says that she will not hand those out, but they are photographs of blown up copies of Vialek’s business card that prove she is a businesswoman.
Vialek: “I met Cain and interacted with him at Marche restaurant. At dinner, he spoke to me. During the convention there was a luncheon with high school students and Cain spoke to me at the luncheon. He was inspirational. I said to him “When are you running for president”. He was warm and attentive to me and my boyfriend. He asked me to an after party at his hotel room. I was honored to be asked to the party. A month later I was let go from the Association and my boyfriend told me to reach out to Mr. Cain and to ask him for help getting a job. I did, I called Mr. Cain’s office and left a message and he called back. I told him he was let go and he said he was unaware of it. I told him I wanted to ride a train and then asked him if he would meet me in DC. My boyfriend booked me a room at the Capitol Hilton. This was mid July 1997. I was shocked that I was checked into a palatial suite. I told the bellman there was no mistake. I later figured out that Mr. Cain had changed the room into a suite. I met him in the lobby of a bar somewhere and met Mr. Cain and he asked me if I liked my room, which was normal. Mr. Cain then smirked and said I “upgraded you”. Mr. Cain and I then went to an Italian restaurant and we had dinner. Cain asked me why I was there and what I wanted and I told him that I wanted my job back. Cain said “I will look into that”. On the way back to the hotel, Cain said he would show me where the Restaurant Association offices were. I was wearing a dress at the time and Cain wore a suit. Instead of going to the offices, Cain reached under my dress to touch my genitals and then put his head on my chest. I told him that I have a boyfriend and he said “You want a job right?”. I asked him to stop and he did and I asked him to take me to my hotel and he did. I told my boyfriend that Mr. Cain was sexually inappropriate to me. The last time I saw Mr Cain was a month ago. I was invited to the Tea Party Conference a month ago. My girlfriend told me that Mr. Cain was there. I asked him, “Do you remember me from 14 years ago?”. He said, “I remember you from the Foundation”. Then he was whisked away by his handlers. He had the same charisma he had all those years ago. I kept wondering to myself if he had done this to other women and I hoped that mine was not an isolated incident. I did not file a complaint because I was not employed at the Foundation, but now I am coming forward to give a voice and a face on the behalf of women who are sexually harassed in the workplace or who don’t want to have humiliation. I did not want to be here and would not be here if it was not for the three other women who alleged sexual harassment. I want Cain to admit what he did and move forward. We need a lawyer who can set an example and have moral character. Mr. Cain I implore you to make this right so that the country can move forward in our turmoil at hand”.
Vialek would be played by actress Jennifer Coolidge in a movie version of this press conference. She read the above from papers Gloria Allred gave her.
1106am — there’s chaos as Gloria Allred loses some papers and keeps saying “What am I looking for?”
The accuser’s name is SHARON Vialek, not Marilyn.
Questions from the media pit now.
Gloria Allred said that it’s for the voters to decide if he’s the nominee.
“He says the allegations are baseless and that is for the voters to decide”.
Allred admits that Vialek did not notify the Restaurant Association of this incident.
Why did she wait so many years to talk about this? Allred says she only came forward now because she went to that Tea Party Conference in Chicago and then the women spoke to Politico.
Allred claims Vialek has no plans to file a law suit — but no mention is made of Vialek being paid large sums by the likes of The Enquirer for interviews.
Vialek refuses to answer questions directly from the media.
Vialek is asked if she’s suffering financial difficulties right now and if that’s why she’s coming forward. Allred claims that Vialek is not interested in selling her story…but did not preclude that she would.
Vialek contacted Allred last week.
Vialek is a full-time, stay at home, single mom with no job.
Allred says Vialek’s motive is to come forward and encourage other women who have been sexually harassed to come forward.
Allred said that Vialek thought Cain was acting in good faith and then was shocked and upset by what occurred and then she told her boyfriend and a businessman she knew about this, but then never said anything about it again.
Vialek says she is not on public assistance…but does not have a job.
Allred thanks everyone for coming.
The name might be “Bialek” not Vialek.
Allred doesn’t seem to know the correct spelling, if it’s a B or a V.
At 113pm CST Allred and BIALEK leave the room. A reporter is heard telling another reporter the correct spelling, and it appears to be BIALEK.
Like the actress Myam Bialek, who was the character “Blossom” on NBC in the 90s.
UPDATE: No word yet if Sharon Bialek spells her name “Bialek” or “Bialik”, like “Blossom” actress Mayim Bialik.
Why won’t the agenda-driven media report on Barack Obama being gay, sexually harassing male actor Kal Penn, and frequenting Chicago bathhouse Man’s Country…you know, the way they leaped to trash Herman Cain with unsubstantiated sexual innuendo?
UPDATE: Listen to an updated report on this story via podcast HERE
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Last week, the agenda-driven, drive-by media trashed Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain with unsubstantiated and poorly sourced sexual innuendo.
This week, let’s all talk about Democrat President Barack Obama being gay, him sexually harassing male actor Kal Penn, and his frequenting of Chicago gay bathhouse “Man’s Country” — using the Left’s established precedent for journalistic integrity when it comes to rumor and gossip.
Fair’s fair, right — in love, politics, and what’s apparently allowable in the 2012 election now that all-out war was declared on the black Republican presidential contender. Why shouldn’t conservatives treat Barack Obama the way the Left treated Herman Cain? If the operating assumption is that anything whispered about by anonymous sources is true about Herman Cain, then I guess everything people in Chicago have talked about for years related to Barack Obama being a closeted gay man into younger Pakistani guys must be true too, right?
During the 2008 election, I campaigned for Hillary Clinton in the Democrat primaries. Repeatedly, I heard over and over here in Chicago that Barack Obama is gay and that his marriage to Michelle is one of mutual convenience. In the black community, this is called “being on the down-low”, where a closeted gay male weds an often-times gruff and demanding woman (typically without other male suitors of her own) to take public scrutiny off them both and afford the pair a successful life they’d never achieve separately.
There are, apparently, a lot of such relationships forged at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago — where Barack Obama’s pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, oversaw the coupling of down-low gay black men with sour and caustic black women.
This apparently happens not just in Chicago at Trinity United, but in black communities all over the country. Author Terry McMillen and talking-head Star Jones married down-low gay men to benefit their careers and help their public image too.
Black women who marry gay black men are lavished with all the social perks these marriages of convenience afford them, while the men get to go off together on “camping trips”, to “basketball games out of town”, or to other “social events” where they can engage in gay activity with one another secure in the knowledge that no one in the Reverend Wright’s “down-low club” would rat the other fellas out. You need to understand how much homosexuality is despised in the black community to appreciate both the need for gay black men to stay “down-low” and the willingness of some black women to become “beards” for these men when they think they can benefit from the arrangement in some way themselves (usually because these are difficult-to-deal-with women who were unable to find anyone willing to marry them otherwise).
Oprah Winfrey and her longtime “boyfriend” Stedman Graham were for many years also members of Trinity United Church of Christ, and you can read whatever you may like into that.
In Chicago’s Boystown gay community, older guys who frequented the little dive bars that have been around forever told tales back in the 2008 primaries about Barack Obama slipping out whenever he was in Chicago for romps at the local bathhouse “Man’s Country”. The details given in these accounts of his activities were substantial. Apparently, he went most often to this Andersonville neighborhood bathhouse on Wednesdays, and while there he was rumored to seek oral sex from older white men. According to the gossip, Barack Obama would never reciprocate in these encounters, but enjoyed being pleasured by older white guys. Evidently, he is not a giver and is something of a selfish bathhouse regular when not being the current President of the United States.
This jives with everything Larry Sinclair said about his own sexual encounter with Barack Obama in the back of a limo many years ago. You remember Larry Sinclair, right? He’s the man the agenda-driven media worked overtime to destroy and did its level best to silence because he posed a direct threat to the narrative the Left needed to push for Barack Obama to elect him president — and needless to say, that narrative didn’t include Barack Obama receiving oral sex from another man in the back of a limo in Chicago.
You need to appreciate that when a Democrat is accused of anything, the Democrat’s accusers are crucified with remarkable zeal in the press; but when someone whispers anything obscene about a Republican, that person is lauded by the “journalists” of the Left as the bravest and most credible person who ever lived…even if that person refuses to give her name, actually state on record what she claimed happened, or provide any sort of corroborating evidence that what she’s alleging is in any way remotely true.
To the media, it’s true just because it was said about a Republican. Meanwhile, Democrats can always get away with murder. Just ask the Kennedy family about that.
Clearly, we saw this Leftist double-standard (or, non-standard, as the case may be) applied to the mystery woman Politico sourced as Herman Cain’s sexual harassment accuser last week.
So, why can’t we all talk about Barack Obama dating Hollywood actor Kal Penn during the 2008 presidential campaign, and Obama then inventing a strange, nebulous position for the actor in the early days of the Obama administration (just so Penn could abruptly leave his hit TV show and move to Washington to be close to Obama?). Apparently, since Penn then left the White House abruptly after just a few months of work (in a position that was created solely for him) the current President and his down-low boyfriend must have broken up.
Did Barack Obama sexually harass his subordinate, Kal Penn, in the brief time he worked in the Obama White House?
You can speculate about what went wrong between these lovebirds while you’re watching the new Harold & Kumar movie or eating at White Castle. Because, let’s face it, if there was an (R) after Barack Obama’s name this whole affair with Penn would have been nonstop “news” since 2009…instead of the pervasive sound of chirping crickets we got because Barack Obama’s a (D) — which stands for “down-low”, don’t you know.
Why shouldn’t this week be all about talking about Barack Obama being gay and having sexual misadventures with men, since if it was a Republican president there’s no doubt the agenda-driven media would have been all over this story, regardless of who, if anyone, would go on record to confirm any of it.
You know full well the “journalists” on sites like Politico would have spent the last three years digging relentlessly into a Republican president’s past, repeatedly asking why not a single former girlfriend has ever stepped forward to identify herself or speak on the record about her past with the man currently in the Oval Office.
Isn’t it strange that the public’s never been introduced to A SINGLE GIRLFRIEND that Barack Obama ever had in high school, college, law school, or the days before he met his beard wife Michelle?
Don’t you wonder why the “journalists” of the Left have never done any in-depth profiles of Barack Obama’s male friends from his years at Occidental College in California, talked about his “roommate” while at Columbia, or wondered about any of his social activities through the years?
I know there are endless mysteries centered around a man whose college transcripts, vital records, and other important paperwork were apparently sealed away from the public in an impregnable vault somewhere cloaked in riddles and enigma — never to be seen by human eyes again — but if Barack Obama was a Republican he would have been outed as gay many years ago.
If Barack Obama was a Republican, the agenda-driven media would have hounded him about the nature of his relationship with his “bodyman” Reggie Love.
If Barack Obama was a Republican, the Left would have somehow gotten ahold of his lifetime membership at Chicago gay bathhouse Man’s Country and would have plastered those records across Politico to destroy his political career.
If Barack Obama was a Republican, the press would have quickly interpreted the dearth of girlfriends in his past as evidence of a surfeit of boyfriends and no one at the New York Times would have slept a wink until every Tom, Dick, or Larry in Barack Obama’s little black book was awarded his own reality show to gush about their down-low adventures.
But, Barack Obama is not a Republican, so the agenda-driven media provides him enormous and constant spin to conceal his gay past. It’s really very reminiscent of the old days in the studio system, where PR agents worked aggressively to hide the fact that men like Rock Hudson, Montgomery Clift, Tab Hunter, and even Liberace himself were gay…because the media had a vested interest in these men’s success and it wasn’t on the agenda to expose the truth about them. Instead, the media was complicit in selling the public a mutually beneficial fantasy.
Barack Obama is gayer than Liberace, but you’ll never read about that on Politico — just as you’ll never read about him chain-smoking in the White House, his rampant drug abuse during his twenties and thirties, or the fact he got all Ds and Fs in college (produce his transcripts and prove me wrong on that one).
Because Barack Obama is a Democrat, the agenda-driven media is as committed to promoting a heterosexual, scandal-free image for him, because this is what “journalists” are apparently trained to do for Democrats in school…and it’s expected for them to do if they wish to keep being employed as “journalists” in the Democrat public relations machine we call the media in this country.
Someday, when the Left no longer needs Barack Obama to push the Left’s agenda, this protection will be gone and you’ll spend the last few decades of your life hearing all about Larry Sinclair, Kal Penn, Reggie Love, Man’s Country, Jeremiah Wright’s Down-Low Club, and the many men Barack Obama has been with through the years. I’m sure a great many books will be written on all of this and a great deal of money will be made by the media companies selling the scandal of it all to the public.
But, for now Barack Obama is the Left’s guy, so he’s getting the full-on Rock Hudson/Liberace protection treatment.
While, of course, opponents of the Left such as Herman Cain are relentlessly attacked with unsubstantiated sexual innuendo in the agenda-driven media’s nonstop effort to discredit and destroy anyone who poses a real threat to Obama’s grasp on power.
If you don’t see what’s really happening here and are someone who’s quick to believe the anonymous and sketchy sources the likes of Politico put forward when it comes to a Republican in the hot seat…then maybe you should spend today coming up with a valid reason for why YOU can’t name a single girlfriend Barack Obama had in his entire life before Michelle and why so much of Barack Obama’s past is so aggressively cloaked in perpetual and deliberate mystery.
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PS — If you ever wonder why Republicans don’t just out Barack Obama themselves, you need to really think about how the Cocktail Party GOP establishment actually works.
There are currently at least two closeted gay sitting Republican United States Senators. There are several closeted gay sitting Republican Congressmen.
All of these men are forever praised in the media for being “bipartisan”, which means they conveniently sell out conservative voters whenever the Left needs them to.
I am 100% convinced there’s blackmail afoot in this, with the quid pro quo being these men get to remain sitting Senators and Congressmen so long as they keep folding whenever Democrats need “bipartisan” votes across the aisle.
It’s no coincidence the closeted gay Republicans are all Cocktail Party GOP establishment types who are more interested in maintaining their own hold on power than ever bucking the system and doing what’s best for this country and their own constituents.
It’s an open secret in the political world that Barack Obama is gay, and that there are plenty of closeted gay Republicans too. But you won’t hear about any of this because members of the permanent political class on both sides of the aisle don’t want you to hear about it.
AND they all think you are too stupid to ever figure this stuff out on your own.
Even though all the clues are really obvious and sitting RIGHT THERE if you really wanted to piece it together without the media’s help.
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UPDATE: We have more on this at The HillBuzz & Mrs. Fox Show, where we ask “Is Barack Obama Gay?”
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WHAT: The Texas Tea Party Patriots Lincoln-Douglas Debate between Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich
WHEN: 8pm EST, 7pm CST Saturday November 5th, 2011
WHERE: In Midland, Texas…carried on CSPAN
FORMAT: 90 minute debate focusing on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security
I hope you plan on watching the Cain-Gingrich debate tonight; they’re debating in the style of the Lincoln-Douglas debates, where there will be no moderator asking asinine questions (or attempting “Gotcha!” moments like Anderson Cooper and others do when they host GOP debates on CNN or wherever). Instead, there will only be a timekeeper. This will allow Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich to face off in a substantive debate on both the issues at hand and their visions for America’s future.
I am very excited to watch this debate, and wish similar debates could be held with the other Republican presidential candidates using this same format — instead of having a stage full of people, the debates going forward should all be separate events where two candidates face off like Cain and Gingrich are doing today. There should be no moderators, only time keepers, and the candidates should be allowed to grill each other while giving voters a clear picture of what sort of president each candidate would make.
After the debate is over, we’ll do a recap on The HillBuzz & Mrs. Fox Show at 10pm EST and 9pm CST. You can find a link to that broadcast here.
Please watch the Cain-Gingrich debate or set your DVR to record it for later viewing . I can’t imagine this debate will be anything short of riveting, enlightening, and exciting. It is sure to be a real treat for anyone who loves politics and is deeply involved in the issues facing our country.
WATCH THE DEBATE ON CSPAN HERE 8pm EST/7pm CST
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LIVE BLOG:
658pm CST: Ben Streusand introduces the rules, claims he will be as unobtrusive as an NFL referee
Congressman Steve King takes the stage.
King: thanks to all who put this debate together. Have always looked forward to a Lincoln/Douglas style debate. Since the two Georgians are in Texas doing this style debate, maybe the two Texans in the race will go to Georgia and do the same.
“My most recent granddaughter just learned to walk, when she came into the world her share of national debt was $44,000. It is now $48,000. The average student loan debt is $28,000. By the time my granddaughter starts 5th grade, she will owe $88,000 for her share of the national debt. It will sink us all eventually.”
[ Shows some charts with debt and spending projections ]
62.3% of the budge is entitlement auto pilot…and then there’s cutting off the funding to Obamacare. Spending is out of control. We have to cut this spending or it will break us all. Entitlements swallow up all of our revenues.
We must service our debt interest or be destroyed. Baseline spending projections are out of sight for the debt. Under the Ryan Plan, the Republican budget plan will flatten out the debt and balance it in 26 years. We are up against a very big problem because Democrats want to just keep spending on entitlements until we are destroyed.
704pm – Congressman King still talking about the debt and showing slides. King should have really spoken before 7pm…the debate should start…this is not the Congressman King Show.
Cain and Gingrich are sitting at a table, just waiting for King to stop talking…but King is going on and on. It reminds me of being at a wedding and really wanting to start eating the steak in front of me, but we have to keep listening to a random uncle no one has ever heard of before talking about what the bride was like as a kindergartener. Meanwhile, dinner is getting cold and I am HUNGRY.
710pm – FINALLY, Congressman King shuts up.
GINGRICH is up first, talking about what happens to the debt under the Ryan plan and without it.
If we are stupid enough to do nothing about the debt, we will be bankrupt like Greece. Paul Ryan would fundamentally change Medicare by getting younger Americans into a premium support model — I do not favor a mandatory premium support model. I want us back into the habit of giving Americans a range of choices so people have those choices in the free market that would beat out the bureaucratic system. They need to go to something because it is better for them not because the government forced them. Americans are not going to let politicians impose things on them.
We have to come up with solutions that are actually BETTER than what the government would force on you. Look at WalMart, people shop there because they think they will get a good deal.
We need to defeat so many entrenched elements of the Left that we have to convince Americans that we represent a better future than the Left does.
We have to get to a better health system before we get to an affordable health system.
Look at STOP PAYING THE CROOKS and read it.
Medicare pays between $70-120 billion a year to crooks…like dentists who file 982 procedures a day. The Super Committee is not looking at this, because it requires thinking about Government…and getting people in Washington to THINK is a very big challenge.
CAIN: I am supposed to have a minute to disagree with Gingrich, but I don’t. So I would like to instead to add a historical perspective, since Gingrich and I can change the rules as we go. I remember talking about Medicare when I first went to Godfather’s pizza. Things inside the company were easier to control outside. Medicare started in 1965 and our government told us it would cost $6 billion to rollout, and we were told that by 1990 it would cost $12 billion. But in 1990, it actually cost $109 billion. IT WAS A 900% MISS.
How many businesses can survive missing a target like this.
Long term government projections about cost have never been right. NAME ONE.
That being said, I believe as Speaker Gingrich believes that we can’t reshuffle Medicare or Medicaid, we must RESTRUCTURE. A guiding principle in the Ryan Plan that I love is that if you want to solve a problem, you must go to the source closest to the problem. It is not Washington DC…it is the states…it is the patients. Allowing Medicare accounts for younger workers is an option.
Another thing we have learned for decades is that people spend other people’s money more recklessly than they spend their own money. Let it be their money and they will spend it better. Get it out of Washington DC.
Politicians have overpromised for decades. We have got to get real because we are headed off a cliff.
717pm – What to do about rising healthcare costs…services, x-rays, etc…going up 17% regardless of the economy in a market of their own. Why does it occur and how do we deal with this?
CAIN: We have the best healthcare in the world.
(applause)
We have a healthcare cost problem, you are absolutely right. In order to solve the healthcare cost problem, we must use market driven patient centered approaches. Talk to doctors. Here again, you cannot micromanage healthcare costs out of DC. Every program we have had out of DC has failed. What we have to do is unravel the system with market driven ideas. HR3000 — introduced by Rep. Price in Georgia, used to be HR3400 — open healthcare savings accounts, allow association health plans. At the Restaurant Association we wanted a plan to customize to our workforce. Under the current structure, we couldn’t do that. Another thing doctors would like is loser-pay laws at the state and federal level. That’s what’s driving up malpractice insurance. A loser pays law is a big step in health reform.
GINGRICH: I think that the mess of the health system is an everything problem. It is federal, state, doctor, patient problem. You can go back to 1943 wage price control decisions which was a gimick in WWII, but what happens in a third party payer system. The person receiving services isn’t paying so they don’t value it. The person writing the checks thinks the doctor is a crook.
Think about McDonalds. You show up and ask for a quarter pounder. They give it to you. You give them money. Everyone’s happen. But if you pay them and you don’t get the quarter pounder, there’s a problem. This is not silly, it’s basic, and this does not happen with healthcare.
We need to be in these non-30 second debates because there is a lot of material that needs to be talked about…common sense regardless of what the national establishment thinks is acceptable. Cain and I are the two most radical candidates in this because we are willing to talk common sense, when most in Washington think that does not count.
I am the only Speaker in modern history to balance the budget in 4 years. We reformed an entitlement, we reformed Medicare very carefully and had AARP neutral in a presidential election year. If you are serious about real health reform, you must abolish the Congressional Budget Office because it lies.
Every hospital will tell you that if you get the family and patient involved, it is better and less expensive. The Congressional Budget Office refuses to see this as a savings. It wants more bureaucracy and less patient involvement.
(Congressman King interrupts to talk some more…gosh, this guy loves hogging the spotlight…someone needs to tell him that this is not his show, and that people want to hear Cain and Gingrich, not him).
CAIN: If you go back to Ryan’s plan, first of all if you are 55 or older or you are already on Medicare you will not be affected so don’t allow the Left to use scare tactics on you. For the younger workers, if they take that option of the Medicare account they will treat it as their own money.
Initially it would be about $11,000 and you would have to buy a Medicare approved plan. When you treat it like it is your money that is how you wean people off expecting that someone else will pay for it and it will be someone else’s money.
GINGRICH: I wrote a book in 2002 called Saving Lives and Saving Money, and I outlined what to do. Washington will do three stupid things instead of one smart thing.
I just put on the table trillions of dollars that would be saved by not paying crooks. Why is it so hard to not penalize good people before you stop paying crooks. You can take existing IBM technology and use it to stop paying crooks.
Why is it so hard to say you can turn this around and pass a bill to contract out to American Express, VISA, and IBM to handle Medicare payments and in 60 days you would save a TRILLION DOLLARS.
Anyone who currently prefers to go to a premium support system should do it next year. Tom Price has a great bill that says if you want to contract out for healthcare let’s give you more freedom. Medicare is more restrictive than the British system.
730PM: GINGRICH — when you get the government in the business of defining what you should have, the government will say you don’t need this or that when you do.
Prostate Example — Medicare says not to test for prostate cancer, when lives can be saved if detected quickly. No one who is a urologist or cancer specialist is making these decisions. It is just bureaucrats. You need to move to a place where people get help buying insurance but the family, the patient, and the doctors make the primary decisions on keeping you healthy. Just imagine if there was government approval on IPhones or computers…bureaucrats would stop innovation and would say that 1960 model is just fine for you.
CAIN: I will make this brief. In the private sector for decades now they have been making the change from defined benefits plans to define contributions plans. It is your money. And so what the Ryan plan does with Medicare accounts is that they have individual names on it with defined contributions where everyone will have an account and own it and spend more responsibly.
GINGRICH: I want to ask Cain what happened at Godfather’s regarding the encroaching of government when CEOs are faced with the out of control bureaucracy.
CAIN: My advice to them is something I realized when I first became CEO in 1986. If I did not get involved in these issues then the entire free market system would be collapsed. Don’t stand back and play it safe. Get involved with the solution. I want to congratulate the Tea Party for putting these talks together and educating people. Better informed people will change this country. You are all becoming better involved. The Tea Party movement is real and growing. The Left is calling people racists to scare them away. My advice to CEOs and business people is to get involved and not sit on the sidelines. You can’t stop it with expensive lobbyists down the road.
My question to Speaker Gingrich is that you spent a lot of distinguished years in Congress and then you left Congress and started other ventures and you were thinking outside the Washington bubble…what are three things you realized outside that bubble.
736pm — GINGRICH: As a business, you don’t get to stay in business unless you wake up every day thinking about how to keep customers. If you don’t earn your pay in business, a business won’t pay you. We need to apply LEAN Sigma Six principles to government.
In every aspect of the private sector someone is doing something brilliant that could be applied to government to reduce costs…but the Left and the media block this. If you found Best Practices across the country, you would be amazed at how quickly you could balance the budget and resolve the deficit.
When I left office as Speaker, there was a swing of 5 TRILLION dollars and we had a balanced budget.
CEOs set big goals with tight deadlines, delegate smartly, and don’t let any so call experts in the room.
740pm – Social Security Reform….
CAIN: Social Security….I am a firm believer in solving problems. Old ideas have prolonged the problem. I am a strong proponent of an idea that Bush introduced, these optional personal retirement accounts. 30 countries have optional personal retirement accounts. Look at the Chilean model and I ask why can’t we do that? We can do it if we fight the demogoguery and fight all those who don’t want the current system to change. We need to educate the public so they understand this.
30 years ago, Chile had a social security system like we do. The workers got to 27% of every dollar earned going into this and the system was broken. When they gave people the option — within 3 years, 90% of people said we want the option because it became their money on an account with their name on it and they don’t have the problems we have dealing with social security.
If older Americans who have paid into the system, they have a choice to continue on, or they can take the option of controlling it yourself. If you are close to retirement,your benefits will keep being paid. For younger people, they will have an option to control that benefit yourself. I have asked young workers if they would want to start investing and controlling their own retirement…I have not found one person who would rather keeping things as they are. Investing conservatively will work better than the current system.
745pm – CAIN — I am about fixing the problems. Payroll tax is the biggest tax that most people pay. We should be invited back to talk about the economy at another time. We have to change the tax code. It is one of the reason that healthcare costs keep going up. It makes no sense. It promotes the idea that this is all someone else’s money and not the employee’s.
The payroll tax would be eliminated in 9-9-9 we would setup those optional accounts with that money that people could control themselves.
GINGRICH: I am going to sidestep the opportunity to talk about 9-9-9. Sean Hannity has asked us to spend an hour in this format with him and I think we should do that. Here in Texas, there is the Galveston System where they discovered that if you put in about half as much money in the private sector you would get twice as much as you would giving it to government.
Any candidate who is not prepared to give younger Americans the right to choose has not serious plan for social security. Everyone who is currently on it, it won’t be touched, so don’t let the LEFT and AARP lie to you.
First of all, with growth, you go back to where we were when I left the Speakership, you can’t look at the current static model from the CBO and see anything…it’s amazing what 10-15 extra million Americans working does to social security.
Lyndon Johnson scored a cheap political point by sucking social security into the budget to try to show a balanced budget. Johnson began the problems of giving people the idea that they could steal this money. Senior citizens should not be scared like this.
Get social security out of the budget and make it a freestanding retirement account again.
If you want to stay in the current system, and let politicians like Barack Obama scare you that they are going to take your money away from you, then you can stay in the system.
If you have your own personal social security savings account and you want to retire early why would Congress tell you not to…or if you were like Andy Rooney and stayed active until age 92, why should Congress tell you that you can’t. Let’s get back to allowing Americans to control own lives.
752pm – CAIN: we as a nation are not short on good ideas of how to fix social security. What we are short on is the ability to educate people on the solutions. CEOs can help educate and inform their workers on what is truth and what is garbage. I believe the businesses in America could provide a service of changing the paradigm of DC and inform the employees on what is fact and what is not.
One of the big advantages in this election cycle is the Tea Party, and the Internet. More people are smart and informed today. The President needs to be a communicator in chief informing and educating people, not scaring them.
GINGRICH: Let’s talk about Herman’s role in turning around Godfather’s pizza. He came in and totally transformed that business. Let’s also talk about the Green Bay Packers and their leadership. I became a leader in Congress just like Herman did in business because I was willing to tell the truth and talk directly to people.
The current president is as accurate and honest as Bernie Madoff in what he tells the American people.
755pm – Here comes Steve King again, wanting to be heard and seen, interrupting and talking on and on….
GINGRICH: It is a fraud and a lie the way that Congress deals with social security. The American people have put money into a trust fund. It is not hidden. It is there. But every politician in Washington wants to find a gimick to balance the budget off the backs of working Americans.
If you take it off budget, you could solve social security. You take what’s in that fund, and you model it on what’s in Chile, you find with a few modest cuts in spending you get to a stable retirement program.
Since Johnson, we have been hiding the real size of our budget deficit by obscuring it with social security. We need to be honest and separate these two things and deal with them.
CAIN: This is what we have to be honest about, it is going to take a long time to work ourselves out of this mess that has been created for decades. We can’t deal with unfunded liabilities, we have to deal with a bill that says starting from now all social security contributions will go towards social security benefits only. What the money is collected for, let’s put it towards that only.
800pm — Steve King interrupts again. Someone please tell him he is not running for anything and should be quiet.
GINGRICH == the private sector money in a personal social security account goes into the private sector. There will be a 1% increase in economic growth just because of the amount of capital that would be saved. In Chile they now have savings in their social security accounts that equal 76% of their capital. That is breahtaking and longterm and stable. We need to have separate money between social security and what would be in the private savings account.
CAIN: In the private sector, most companies have moved to a defined contributions account. The company will make a contribution along with the employee. The employee selects from several options on how to invest. You can declare yourself a low risk, a medium, or a high risk investor. You can do the same thing with personal retirement accounts. Parking the money is never the problem. Yanking it out of the federal budget is the problem.
Next topic: Medicaid
803pm – CAIN: I absolutely agree with block granting to states. IN order to solve the problem, the states know better how to use their resources to provide the greatest amount of help to their citizens.
Medicaid has gotten states hooked on it like crack. We have to break the crack habit with block grants. The states over time will have more flexibility. We should not cut them off cold turkey, but we need to start to end the dependency of states on Washington bureaucracy. We need to end the mandates to the states and let the states decide.
GINGRICH: Let’s look at Obamacare. Go to Newt.org for the proposed 21st Century Contract with America. First step is to repeal Obamacare.
I strongly support Paul Ryan’s approach to block granting Medicaid. Block grant all remaining welfare programs. Give the states the power to deal with the poor using innovation and money savings.
We are going to have a real national debate on all this. I do not believe you solve problems under the Left’s policy of people being helpless. Read THE TRAGEDY OF AMERICAN COMPASSION. We need to rethink Medicaid much the way we rethought welfare reform. Governor Bush in Florida had a program where people who took care of themselves and didn’t go to the emergency room got a Christmas bonus. To the shock of academics, poor people were aware of money and strived to get that bonus by not abusing the emergency rooms. If you had the ability to triage and send people to minute clinics, then the hospital wouldn’t charge emergency room rates. If you track someone who abuses the system there should be a consequence for that.
We have to start distinguishing between the taxpayer who is concerned with charitable care and taxpayers who are suckers and are being exploited.
CAIN: One of the principles I believe in is going from an entitlement society to an empowerment society. Help people to help themselves.
No entitlement programs…teach people to fish, not give them fish.
I would support a voucher system but not if a voucher would pay all the costs. People need skin in the game, otherwise they will ask how much more the government will give them.
GINGRICH: We need genuine block grants so states can decide how best they should handle matters. The whole purpose of getting back to 50 states is to have 50 laboratories of experimentation since Washington can’t fix things. We’ve seen this.
We need to think of all of these things being integrated into one human being.
Public Housing — if we give people a place to live, they need to help clean it, paint it, and fix it so they have skin in the game.
The Left’s Model: people are weak, helpless, and stupid and need government to tell them what to do…but who does the Left think the government hires to run the bureaucracy?
CAIN: You need to block grant responsibility as well as money. You need the states to adhere to rules, and to have responsibility for making decisions at the state level. Right now they are too caught up in bureaucracy.
GINGRICH: I believe in health information technology. We need to have the same security and ease of information that we have in using ATMs. You can walk up to a machine in a foreign country, you put in a code, and you can get money out in the local currency anywhere in the world. The center for Medicare and Medicaid uses only paper. It is 40 years behind the times. It stops us from getting into a better future.
815pm – CAIN: We need to have standards and not make it easy for people to cheat on things. You can’t get on an airplane without showing a valid ID. Why should we allow people to do other things without IDs. Photo IDs are needed and should be required to vote to end fraud. WHY NOT?
People who are fighting to require voter ID are people who want cheating to continue in the voting process. There is much more cheating going on than people want to admit.
GINGRICH: There is a big gap in rational thinking between the government and private sectors. We have technology that allows you to track a package with FedEx with remarkable accuracy. One of my proposals is to send people a package to determine if they are here illegally…(laughter)…but it’s funny but making a point about where we are. We should be able to identify everyone who gets emergency aid and every state should sue the federal government every year for every cent spent on illegals who should not be in the United States.
That is the federal government’s responsibility.
(LOUD APPLAUSE)
819pm – How to address the 72 entitlement programs:
CAIN: We need to change entitlement to empowerment programs. You need to prove you are looking for a job or are taking classes to get a better job. Means testing will help but you need to make people take ownership and WANT to get off those programs.
I would block grant all entitlement programs back to the states and give them the flexibility on how to modify the programs and stretch those dollars.
GINGRICH: You must start with the question on whether or not means testing requires people to stay below. We have the most effective food stamp president in history right now and that is not a good thing.
Do you want to rise above the point where you would be means tested? You create a discouragement — read the book LOSING GROUND – you are teaching people to be dependent and fail. You need to rethink the idea that people are getting something for nothing, because that’s not how it works. If someone is an able bodied person who is getting something for nothing than we are stupid for giving it to you.
We need to fundamentally change unemployment compensation. We need to require training. 99 weeks of unemployment sitting doing nothing could be turned into an associate’s degree.
I think that each state needs to have primary responsibility for most of these domestic issues.
CAIN: Let me round this out. We have talked about the biggest elephant in the room, entitlement programs. As you can see, Speaker Gingrich and I are not afraid to talk about this. The government has been intellectually dishonest about these programs for 50 years.
Ultimately, all these programs work together and what we come back to is that education and a job are the two best things that get people off these programs. We need to look at how to get people back to work, want to get off it, and there will be a few people who are lazy and they don’t want to help themselves….that’s their little boogiewoogie as my grandmother used to say.
CAIN: I would restructure unemployment so that if you got 26 weeks unemployment one time, then next time you would only get 13 weeks…then 7.5 weeks so that you are encouraged to get and keep a job.
GINGRICH: I would connect the unemployed to the jobs we can’t fill. We have an older workforce who is not trained to do the new jobs we can’t fill. From Day One, you need to get trained as fast as possible to get a full time job because these people will need to do something every single day in order to get a penny.
Cain and Gingrich ask each other a question now — not playing Gotcha! one time all night — Gingrich goes first:
GINGRICH: You have had a terrific life. We fought Hillarycare together years ago, what’s been the biggest surprise to you in running for president?
CAIN: The nitpicketyness of the media. I did not realize the fly specking nature of the media when you move up in the polls….because if there is a journalistic standard, they don’t follow it, and too many people give out misinformation. I thought that — and I did not study political correctness in school — too many people in the media are dishonest and do a disservice to the American people.
CAIN: Mr. Speaker, if you were Vice President of the United States (applause and laughter from crowd) what would you want me to assign you to do first?
(laughter)
GINGRICH: Having studied Dick Cheney, I would not go hunting.
— End of Debate —
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