Question of the Day: What Do You Know About Che Guevara?
For the last several months, Megan Fox and I have been working an investigation into the Marxist Indoctrination ongoing in Chicago public schools…where people like Che Guevara’s pictures are displayed on walls and websites in the schools as if they should be idolized by the students.
When Megan and I have canvassed neighborhoods asking people who live around these schools what they know about Guevara, specifically, most people freely admit they have no idea who he really was…but recognize him from tee shirts.
What do you know about Che Guevara?
Be honest in the thread below.
What do you think or feel when you see his face on a tee shirt?
Without looking him up on the Internet, what do you know about Guevara and the life he led and what do you think most high school students know about him?
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I know a lot about him. A couple of years ago I went to a speaker's event featuring Humberto Fontova, author of "Exposing the Real Che Guevara: And the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him", which tells the truth about what a sadistic, murdering terrorist Guevara was. And he was a coward. You asked what I think when I see t-shirts, purses, backpacks, etc, with Guevara's face on them? I look at the wearer and just think what an ignorant, empty-headed, uneducated moron she/he is. Yet another failed product of our failed school system.
O-k, going out on a limb and showing how little I know. This is what I believe. Che Guevera was a Cuban revolutionary who helped to bring communism to Cuba under the guise that he was for the people and trying to overthrow an opressive government. He despised people of color, he loved brutality and bloodshed so much that he had his office install a window so he could watch and listed to the murders being carried out by revolutionaries. He lead a movement that ended in the deaths of thousands of citizens and helped usher in a comunist dictatorship.
He was actually Argentinian that is where the nickname "Che" comes from. Argentinians use the word "Che" like "Oye, Che" when speaking to someone like we would use "Hey, man". His first name is actually Ernesto.
Thank You Allie.
Here's my chance to highlight my ignorance: was a cohort of Castro's and helped overthrow the Cuban gov't and set up the glorious Communist regime which still laboriously lingers, refusing to die. Was a rabid racist – called those of African descent "indolent" among other things. Was responsible for a number of murders, executing or ordering the execution of many men, including boys, w/o proper trials/due process, and wrote that he enjoyed it. Didn't he finally die in some fire fight in South America and was cowardly about it?
Basically, an evil, dirtbag thug — so he qualifies as a prime role model for the OWS bunch and other assorted leftists.
he was captured (sort of) in Bolivia. There was a firefight and he was killed
He was captured in Bolivia and one of his captors wrote that when he was captured he begged for his life and told his captors that he was worth more to them alive than dead. That was the sort of coward he was. In addition, he never, ever was in a battle in Cuba, he would always show up when the battle was over and then shoot the men that were still alive. He tortured small animals and before he sent men to the firing squads (this of course without a trial but at a whim) he would have most of their blood taken from their bodies because the "revolutionaries" needed the blood.
He was an ad hoc murderer and rapist who ushered in Communism.
Sorry to say that I didn't know anything about him until I read the above comments, except that he was a commie.
I know that he was a doctor who used his medical skills to become a more efficient murderer. I know that he was responsible for multiple pogroms in South and Central America, and couldn't keep a good relationship even with other communists, and was eventually murdered by Bolivian communists.
What I do I think the average high schooler knows about him? He's that motorcycle dude on the T-shirts.
He was not murdered by Bolivian communists but by the Bolivian military with the assistance of the CIA. My husband met the CIA agent later (I will not divulge his name) and he was told that they received the information from an informant that they had in Cuba that let them know where Che was hiding out. They later found out that the informant was actually a double agent and that the intelligence where Che was hiding out in was actually passed on by Castro.
Castro had a history of removing men that were becoming more popular than he was. For example, Camilo Cienfuegos, one of his high up lieutenants died within a year or two of Castro taking power in a helicopter accident and it has been rumored that it was a set up because he was becoming too popular.
I am disgusted when I see Che t-shirts – he was a thug and a murderer who just had the good fortune to be the subject of an iconic photograph. Jay Nordlinger @ NRO has written extensively about him, but he summed Che up in a postcard-length description to quickly educate others not familiar with him:
"He was an Argentinian revolutionary who served as Castro’s primary thug. He was especially infamous for presiding over summary executions at La Cabaña, the fortress that was his abattoir. He liked to administer the coup de grâce, the bullet to the back of the neck. And he loved to parade people past El Paredón, the reddened wall against which so many innocents were killed. Furthermore, he established the labor-camp system in which countless citizens–dissidents, democrats, artists, homosexuals–would suffer and die. This is the Cuban gulag."
….NASA's current Administrator, Charles Bolden, is on record as being totally behind Obama's redefinition of NASA's mission to primarily 'Muslim Outreach'….
If you google 'NASA Bolden bio', you will find that the current Obama NASA Administrator named his son 'Anthony Che Bolden'….
so…. to answer Kevin's question, I know that canceling the US Astronaut program is, indeed, the legacy of Che….
I see that the NASA Administrator's naming his son after Che is not of any interest……
so…see you guys at the next Space Shuttle launch, right..?
I saw this review on IMDB about a Che documentary, after several commenters spoke of him like he was some hero. This guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about:
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This man, who ordered the execution of countless human beings while in charge of the notorious La Cabaña prison in Havana, who terrorized Cuban society and who denied freedom to thousands of citizens whom he considered "deviants" or "anti-revolutionaries" can never be accepted as a hero, martyr or — the shock of it — a saint. The blood of thousands of Cubans is on the hands of "Che" Guevara. The families who lost loved ones cannot condone this exhibition and must protest and express their anger and disgust. The revulsion of Cubans to this event is as valid and honest as would be that of the Jewish community if confronted with the idealization of Adolf Hitler.
Ernesto "Che" Guevara dreamed of creating the "New Man" at any cost. During the Cuban missile crisis, he was in favor of a nuclear war because he believed that a better world could be built from the ashes, regardless of the cost in millions of lives. By adhering to his anti-American feelings and pro-Soviet stance, he achieved a role in history that stands for one failure after another, both in Cuba, as well as in all the other countries where he went to promote and disseminate Castro's Revolution.
Ernesto "Che" Guevara had all the characteristics of a ruthless dictator and opponent of freedom. He believed that the end justifies the means, and he fanatically adhered to this gospel. This "idealized icon" is the one who, as a modern day Grand Inquisitor, eliminated many of his foes with a single pistol shot to the back of their heads. And he is also the same one who authored these enhancing words printed in the identity booklets of young Cuban soldiers sent to fight in Angola: "Blind hate against the enemy creates a forceful impulse that cracks the boundaries of natural human limitations, transforming the soldier in an effective, selective and cold killing machine. A people without hate cannot triumph against the adversary." Guevara's elevation as symbol of goodness, due to the self-indulgence and frivolity of pampered Western pseudo revolutionaries, speaks clearly of their lack of critical objective analysis, forgetting that, as Anthony Daniels states, "The difference between 'Che' Guevara and Pol Pot was that Guevara never studied in Paris."
It should also be noted that Che tried to get Castro to bomb New York City and was quite upset when Castro did not follow through.
Wow! Check out this website… UNBELIEVABLE amount of TRUTH about Che and his victims.
http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe.htm
Research shows that as head of Castro's post-revolution prison in Cuba, Guevara ordered the execution without trial of untold numbers of prisoners, mainly dissidents who did not agree with Castro’s nor Guevara’s communist goals. Revealingly, Guevara became president of the Cuban national bank and helped transfer Cuban trade relations from the United States to the Soviet Union. A ruthless, self-aggrandizing egomaniacal fascist, he used revolution and guerilla warfare to help Castro seize power of Cuba in order to achieve his own selfish ends under the guise of being a champion of the common people. He advocated the same tactics in other South American countries, and failed. While attempting a Cuban-style communist revolution in Bolivia, he was killed by the Bolivian army. With one attractive photo and a motorcycle odyssey, Guevara has been shamelessly glamorized by the U.S. leftist-led entertainment media and education system. IMO, BO is very much in the mold of Guevara, except that he lacks the physical bravado to himself personally foment anarchy and revolution, leaving that to his union goon thugs such as those doing his dirty work within OWS.
My daughter teaches at a private university in the midwest. The students are mostly from conservative families and the students themselves seem to be too. She had a student show up in her class wearing a Che t-shirt a couple of weeks ago, and she told him to get out of the class until he changed out of the shirt. Then, she had the student do a loooong research paper on Che. I am anxious to find out what the paper includes about that students "hero".
Che is a murdering monster who is responsible for the deaths of millions of people.
Without reading through any of the comments, I think he was the leader of a rebellion in Venuzuala that overthrew the government and now he is a dictator. Useful idiots and douchebags wear his shirt without knowing a damn thing about what he did.
I freely admit I have a lot more to learn about him to really make a good debate on the topic…
So let's read through here and see if I was even close to correct…
EDIT:
After reading through the comments section and learning more about Che (thank you Kevin, I'm glad you made this thread), I realized I was only right about one thing on the topic. The people who wear that shirt are still douchebags.
Che was an Argentenian Marxist who turned his back on a physician's life to embrace violent revolution "for the masses" in the whole of South America.
His violence towards anyone who disagreed with his brand of Marxism (Stalinism-based) is a matter of record.
Both other Communists and the countries he was fomenting revolution got to experience his sadism on a regular basis.
Castro used him as his chief "enforcer" during his reolution in Cuba, but afterwards in consolodating power, showed him the door before he too became a victim of Che.
Eventually, while fomenting revolution in Bolivia, he was tracked down and killed. The other Communists in Bolivia may have been instrumental in abetting his killing, as they too had become fed up with his methods…….
I'd say that's a pretty good statement about your parenting, 56survivor. This American thanks you.
He was a bloodthirsty vampire, a coward, and a boil on humanity's backside. (Not necessarily in that order.)
Che is the reason, or part of the reason that brave people who live in Cuba gather together huddled up on rafts or rickety old boats, risking thier lives through drowning, shark attacks and death from exposure, to come to the USA to live free and better lives. They live far better here even if they are undocumented. They have the opportunity to work and buy things they want and need. They have left behind family and the country that was once civilized, a country that people from around the world would love to go to on vaction, a country that was Christian and free. They left a place that was totally destroyed by an adolesant rebel without a clue. In some ways I think that the Cuban refugees are luckier than US. They had somewhere to escape to They had the USA. But our president will and is doing the same thing to US that Che did to Cuba. Some day when former OWS idiots gather together to board a raft and escape the shit hole that they and Obama have creatd here in America, they will discover that they have no where to go to excape the hell they have created.
Wasn't he Satan's spawn?
I was sitting at a funeral luncheon for a friends mom in the basement of an old Catholic school lunchroom. This school is on the East Side of St. Paul, MN and it is now a charter school. As I'm eating my lunch I look up to see this huge poster of Che Guevara. I couldn't help but wonder what the little ones in this school knew of this man and his brutality.
Che is a Catholic School lunchroom? Uh, I don't think so.
Medical student/doctor. Obviously from the privileged classes. Touring South America and seeing the horrendous poverty he blamed capitalism rather than corrupt SA governments. Murdering thug, basically.
But…
He did work to set up schools and clinics for the peons in SA. His methods sucked big brown horse apples, unfortunately.
I know that he was a homicidal sociopath. He executed people for the fun of it with his .45 Caliber. He was one of Castro's right hand men during the destruction of Cuba, and was captured in South America, where he was shot like a dog whimpering "Don't shoot, I'm Che! I am worth more to you alive."
He was a cold blooded killer. He thought blacks were lazy. When I see people wearing a Che shirt, I shake my head in disgust. I have decided in the future when I see someone wearing a Che shirt, I will go up to them and ask them to tell me about the man to see if they have a clue and encourage them to learn about him.
Posters are exactly right. Che was a monster and a mass murderer, who enjoyed tying up his victim before shooting them. Humberto Fontova, whose father was arrested by Castro, has written serveral pieces about Che at American Thinker and Front Page Magazine. He's also written a book about him:
http://www.amazon.com/Exposing-Real-Che-Guevara-I…
The People's Cube has T-shirts with the iconic photo of Che reduced to a skull. The text reads, "Che is dead. Get over it." I wear mine all the time; perfect for a night on the town.
Before I read the comments, I knew that he was some kind of revolutionary from Cuba (or someplace like that, but most likely Cuba because look at the guy, and his Cuban features) and that most people (adults) were like that was a bad dude (not bad as in good, but bad as in bad) and most people my age (I'm 19) are like that was one bad dude (bad as in good, are we really using that term? I'm so behind my own times) anyways, I tended to trust the adults' opinion a bit more because they said more than "he was bad" they added something about communism or something, but I never really pay too much attention when most people are talking politics. I try to keep up with what's happening in the now, and all that. Oh, and when I'd see his face on products (before hearing adult influences being negative on the subject) I'd think to myself something along the lines of "oh, what a cool looking guy, maybe I should get something with that face on there, nah, that's not really my style anyways, it'd just be wasted money. Oh well, time to look for new pants cause mine have all these holes where my thighs rub together." Now, I think "that poor kid probably knows less than I do about the guy, and that's a very sad thing indeed, because I don't know anything on that guy."
Pickles, Cubans do not have "Cuban features". That is the same as saying that American have "American features" when it is a melting pot and a lot of people from other countries came over here. During WWII a lot of Polish Jews emigrated to Cuba and ultimately made a life there. There are a lot of different races in Cuba and a lot of different backgounds.
I applaud your initiative to learn about world history at your age though.
One more thing Che was actually part Irish and a lot of Argentinians are from Italian descent and some even from German descent since a lot of the Nazis escaped to Argentina and Paraguay. There is also a fairly large White Russian community there that left Russia during the Russian revolution.
I have a somewhat different take on Che. Longish preamble….. My Grandmother and all of my fathers younger siblings (5) lived in Mexico City from the late 1940's until the early 1970's. Grandmother was widowed while in Mexico. My Grandfather was a Veterinarian for the US Gov battling hoof and mouth disease which is why they were living there in the first place. They stayed and became part of the expatriate American and European community.
I'll never forget my Aunt telling me how shocked and surprised they were when that nice, but really rather boring, Dr. Che from Argentina turned up in the Cuban revolution. Dr. Che was a part of the cocktail scene in Mexico City, and seemed to them to be mostly about trying to obtain money, grants, gifts etc. for his "work". When he started getting political, the people at the cocktail hour or dinner party would fade off into other areas or need to refresh their drinks. He was just part of the social scene until he reappeared. They barely recognized him with his new look revolutionary look …and not in a nice suit.
Strange to think of the evil arch enemy Dr Che having cocktails with my Grandmother.
To more seriously answer your question. I think the person wearing the Che tee shirt is suffering from the indoctrination of our liberal/progressive school system and really needs to be educated. They have no idea what he did and what horrors he inflicted. The man was insane and a sociopath. But….like the good little brainwashed progs that they are the people who wear his shirts don't bother to find out the truth..
I know we have a restaurant in my city that used to be called "La Paz" but is now "Che Guevera" and I will no longer eat there.
I am the proud owner of one of those shirts. I get a wide variety of interesting looks as I take my dog out on her morning constitutional while wearing said shirt.
Good work, Kevin. I can't add a thing, except I'd bet money one will see a lot more Che t-shirts on the streets of Chicago, L.A. Seattle and new York than in Miami.
We don't see them out here on the peninsula, fortunately, and it's very likely anyone seen wearing one would be confronted.
Good work, Kevin. Good work.
I thought that Che was Castro's buddy in the communist takeover of Cuba. They had some sort of falling out and Che went to South America to fight some more battles, and died a hero in some gun battle. I was never taught about him or Castro in school. (Chicago Public.)
Didn't Johnny Depp star as him in a movie?