Obama’s secret order to support Libyan rebels.
Libyan rebels
This story broke yesterday afternoon and it appears to be BIG…although the White House is denying it (of course). Several government officials let it slip that Obama had signed an order at least 2-3 weeks ago to “support” the anti-Gaddafi rebels. Wasn’t that before we “publicly” entered into the kinetic-military-action?
( Reuters ) Obama signed the order, known as a presidential “finding”, within the last two or three weeks, according to government sources familiar with the matter.
Such findings are a principal form of presidential directive used to authorize secret operations by the Central Intelligence Agency. This is a necessary legal step before such action can take place but does not mean that it will.
As is common practice for this and all administrations, I am not going to comment on intelligence matters,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said in a statement. “I will reiterate what the president said yesterday — no decision has been made about providing arms to the opposition or to any group in Libya.”
The CIA declined comment.
News that Obama had given the authorization surfaced as the President and other U.S. and allied officials spoke openly about the possibility of sending arms supplies to Gaddafi’s opponents, who are fighting better-equipped government forces.
The United States is part of a coalition, with NATO members and some Arab states, which is conducting air strikes on Libyan government forces under a U.N. mandate aimed at protecting civilians opposing Gaddafi.
Interviews by U.S. networks on Tuesday, Obama said the objective was for Gaddafi to “ultimately step down” from power. He spoke of applying “steady pressure, not only militarily but also through these other means” to force Gaddafi out.
Obama said the U.S. had not ruled out providing military hardware to rebels. “It’s fair to say that if we wanted to get weapons into Libya, we probably could. We’re looking at all our options at this point,” he told ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer.
In Washington, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton insisted to reporters that no decision had yet been taken.
U.S. officials monitoring events in Libya say neither Gaddafi’s forces nor the rebels, who have asked the West for heavy weapons, now appear able to make decisive gains.
While U.S. and allied airstrikes have seriously damaged Gaddafi’s military forces and disrupted his chain of command, officials say, rebel forces remain disorganized and unable to take full advantage of western military support.
Hmmm…who are these rebels?
I hope we’re not giving weapons to Al-Qaeda.
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more lies from this “regime”
Someone needs to popularise the term “al Contras”.
It’s likely we Are arming al Qaedians. I like how this top secret order is splashed all over the news yet when BHO rec’d his transparancy award the other day, it was a covert operation.
Fortunately, Uncle Muammar is busying killing those very same al Queda members…
Again, you need to seek the facts.
Daffy had the AQ people in prison. The first group were released several years ago. The second group were released just before the protests erupted.
Daffy deliberately released them so that he could claim that AQ was behind the unrest. It is not true.
The NY Slimes had a very good article on the people who seem to be the ones who started the protests. They are lawyers from Zawiyah, just outside of Tripoli.
The lawyer who was the subject of the article is now in Benghazi. There is a definite link to those who had previously attempted a coup against Daffy.
It is very much tied to events in 1995-1996 when 1000 prisoners were killed by Daffy.
Anyways, the people that Daffy is claiming to be AQ are in fact nothing of the kind. This is despite the fact that there are some who have association with AQ who have been involved in the protests.
Remember the protests started out peacefully and Daffy goons started the shooting. Just like in the other M.E. countries the size of the protest got larger and larger.
Read a great blog tonight that put forth a theory:
Remember when Manchelle and the “Won” spent millions of tax-payer dollars to re-decorate the White House that former First Lady Laura Bush JUST redecorated?
The theory put forth is that re-decoration wasn’t the aim;
Sweeping the “area” for listening devices may have been the purpose. But, then, it might be the purpose of most, new administrations. It’s just that THIS administration might have MORE to HIDE than those in the recent past.
before we get excited on the issue of Al Qaeda which is the meme that shows that Daffy has successfully planted the notion in your heads, I continue to point out that the real leadership is not associated with AQ.
Whilst it is true that there are folk who have gone to Iraq and been a mercenary for AQ, these people are a minority of the rebels.
The rebel army has been rag-tag but the generals who defected have begun to take control and they are moving the “boys” out of the way.
That being said, I do disagree with some of the things being done by Østupid.
The order though, is more concerned with authorizing the CIA to do covert operations inside Libya.
At least the actions of O-Bomb-A now silence the left’s criticism of Bush and Iraq.
Imagine if American arms are found among Islamists or AQ. Calling these guys “freedom fighters” is a real joke–no one in the middle east has our view of freedom, and they won’t for generations. The Muslim Brotherhood is already getting a toe-hold in Egypt, do we really think Islamists won’t in Libya too?
Barack Obama holding hands and joining forces with Osama Bin Laden against their common enemy.
This shows why Barack Obama is truly worthy of his Nobel Peace Prize – bringing peace and reconciliation between the Americans and Al Qaeda.
No blood for oil! Obama lied, people died!
We have special forces and people on the ground in Libya and have had them there for more than a month. THAT I know as fact.
We NEVER send air assault in without ground support. Period. Ever. Obama is playing politics. He is lying to the American people and playing God with our military and he’s putting them and US in harm’s way.
The people I know in the military right now want out of the military and they are lifers. They do NOT support this president and do NOT feel he is acting in the best interest of the country. People I know who would DIE for this country are staying in because they almost feel like they single handedly are protecting us are disgusted and alarmed…and that alarms me.
Our military people are being played.
And if I may add…These are people who are totally apolitical. They do not give a hoot about politics. They are crusty, leather-skinned, tough people and they would fight for any president regardless of his politics but right now they smell a skunk and it is coming from the top.
I pray they stay in,,they may be the only thing that stands between Obama and us if he ever orders the military against us, the populace.
I thought Carter was an idiot when I was in the USAF,I would really be distraught with this guy if I was still in.
My son feels the same way! He has many close friends in the military and hopes to go OCS when he graduates college and he just about lit up when this story broke.
His immediate reaction was “How can you ask the people to go into Libya and work alongside the same people who are killing their brothers-in-arms in Afghanistan and Iraq?”
EXACTLY! That is EXACTLY what they are saying. And they have to fight with liberal lawyers hiding behind rocks ready to pounce and stupid rules for engagement…
Still, I do not hear the uproar from the lefist/Democrats over Obama’s intrusion into Libya. Nor the demonstrations in mass. What a bunch of hypocrits they truly are.
Yesterday, J.E. Dyer wrote about the perpetual rhetorical circumscriptions of Barack Obama’s foreign policy speeches. As she rightly notes, finding a coherent set of objectives among them that could constitute an “Obama Doctrine” is not an easy task, and in fact it’s easier to describe the Doctrine by what it isn’t than by what it is..
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/03/30/the-obama-doctrine-just-enough-to-make-a-point-but-not-enough-to-make-a-difference/
Bev, where are you? Where are the military people you know and what is happening with them to make them feel like this?
You are scaring me.
No…I am not trying to scare you. Don’t be afraid. Our military is not going to walk out or anything…lol.
I am angry because they are angry. They’ve been thrown into a stupidly thought out piece of crap conflict so Obama can pretend he’s important.
My BF is in special forces at 101st Airborne and his best friend is a Navy SEAL. Both are high ranking officers. They of course do not tell me everything but I know enough.
Wish someone would tell John McCain and Lindsay Graham to SHUT THE HELL UP! I’m so sick of those two bufoons.
Ok…I would just like to say I am kind of freaked out that we would consider ARMING the rebels…and yet even consider putting more gun laws in affect for the citizens of the USA…does no one see a contradiction here???
Arm unknowns?
Take Gun rights from honest US citizens?
Arm unknowns?
Take Gun rights from honest US citzens?
DUH!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s not even UNKNOWNS that Bambi is talking about helping! Many (not all) of the rebels have KNOWN ties to Al-Queda and other radical Islamic groups.
I have no love for Quaddafi (he’s brutal and he’s nuts) but the US foreign policy of “the enemy of my enemy is automatically my friend” must stop!
Any why Libya but not Yemen? or Saudi Arabia? or Jordan? Watch Blackhawk Down if we need to be reminded how badly it goes when we get into the middle of someone’s civil war without the will to really win.
“Oh crap, did I just get a bunch of American heroes killed? Oops, better run away now!”
I would say some (not all) have ties to AQ.
They really are the minority.
The majority of the fighter are from the army units who defected to the rebels.
The men in charge are generals, and the like.
There have been a lot of volunteers, young blokes who have been too eager to fight.
The reason for Libya has been the fact that Daffy was bombing his own people.
He was sending in his warplanes to Brega, Misrata, Benghazi and other towns. He was bombing them!!
He sent in the tanks to Zawiya; he had snipers in the Tajoura district in Tripoli where people could not leave their homes. They were gunned down if they stepped outside.
The same is happening in Misrata. The snipers had lined up so that anyone trying to enter the hospital was shot.
He has even gunned down ambulances and taken off with the doctors in said vehicles.
“That’s Weird? Experts Estimate That There Are Only 1,000 Rebel Fighters in Libya… And That 1,000 Fighters Are Jihadists”
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/03/thats-weird-experts-estimate-that-there-are-only-1000-rebel-fighters-that-1000-fighters-are-al-qaeda-in-libya/
GP is talking crap.
There are more than 1000 fighters. More than half of Daffy’s army defected.
Since the fighting erupted there have been thousands killed and injured.
This is the problem when people take reports from unreliable sources and then repeat those stories.
GP is most definitely wrong.
Obama goes to war and Hillary’s ratings go up. That’s what I call KARMA my friends.
That’s too dang funny if you ask me.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/31/gallup-wartime-president-gets-highest-rating-in-years/
Oops….Sorry. A little click happy.
Where is the outrage from our Republican representatives? Where is the call for Obama to come to Congress?
Boehner ripped him. The news media of course does not report what the Republicans do. We cannot rely on the news media to tell us anything. WE have to spread this news ourselves.
We originally were the ones who ARMED OBL in the first place. If we hadn’t been trying to bring down the Russians in Afghanistan by helping Bin Laden – a lot of this crap wouldn’t have happened.
But then again, hindsight is 20/20. All I can say is PRAY folks – it’s going to be a bumpy time until January 20, 2013!
Why are we even thinking about giving
weapons to anyone??? What are we doing in
Libya?? If King Mobama were to somehow
convince the military to fight the american
citizens, do you think that “any leader of
any country” would send troops to help us, or would any of them give us weapons??
Not just no, but “OH HELL NO”!!!!
This is one time when I agree… NO WEAPONS from the USA. Let the Saudis or Qatar do the arming.
I just read that Hillary’s numbers have actually gone up since the new war began. I do not get it. She is the face of this crap sandwich and has said that there will be no consultation with congress. I think this shows what a joke she is and that she is in over her head. This whole administration should be impeached.
I think it’s funny. Obama’s numbers went down and hers went up.
Doesn’t make her the smartest woman on earth or the best Sec of State ever. Just another lying Pol. I really like this site but do not see what anyone sees in her. She is as phony as a carnival huckster.
You betcha. Billary are a blight on the country. When will they just go the frak away?
Remember what site you are on. Bashing Hillary on this site is not the best thing to do.
Have a great day
Obama…
(1) days – not weeks
(2) no US boots on Libyan soil
(3) no arming the “Rebels” (aka jihadists, al-queda, muslim brotherhood, hezbollah, , soros, General Electric)
impeach?? we need a strongly worded “letter” again from our cocktail party
Its so crazy. It IS blood for oil but Europes oil. I agree we have to say those lines they yelled at Bush consantly. Some of the lefties may get it.
Where are the republicans with gonads? Reach down and verify you still have some and impeach this POS. We already know the republican women have the ovaries to do it.
Git ‘er done!
http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/31/dont-forget-your-hijab-soldier-american-servicewomen-encouraged-to-wear-headscarves-in-afghanistan/
This would NEVER happen under a Republican president.
http://visiontoamerica.org/story/george-soros-assault-on-us-constitution.html
Why should we beat down the progressives so they do not see the light of day in government forever?
It’s one thing to have an opinion. It’s another to change our constitution.
Libyan rebels sold Hizballah and Hamas chemical shells
http://www.debka.com/article/20811/
Quote from the article:
From the DEBKA article: “Shortly after the uprising began in the third week of February, a secret Iranian delegation arrived in Benghazi. Its members met rebel chiefs, some of them deserters from the Libyan army, and clinched the deal for purchasing the entire stock of poison gas stock and the price.”
that story has not been verified. I am calling that as BS.
I will withdraw the call if I see positive evidence.
The National Transitional Council is not made up of people associated with AQ. I do not think that they would do such a thing.
Also, I am not even sure where those particular items have been located.
On the other hand, Daffy’s tropps laid landmines outside of Adjabiya… at the same time warehouses full of landmines have been discovered in Benghazi and Adjabiya. They are not being given to AQ or to Hizbollah.
Debka is a reliable source of information. Nobody even seems to be talking about the National Transitional Council any more. I’m still waiting for you to cough up some links to your information sources denying links between the rebels and AQ. You remind me of people who like to pretend they know something others don’t but refuse to back it up. They’re usually found in elementary school.
It doesn’t matter if you believe this story or not because the truth doesn’t need your blessing. I need to do what little I can to defend Israel which means I can’t waste any more time on this.
I have not see any real proof of those links to AQ except in a few, and I mean very few cases.
Also, I do not accept Debka as a reliable resource. One look was enough to have a lot of doubts.
Also, I am pro-Israel and you should never doubt that fact.
However, in the case of Libya there are a lot of rumours that are swirling and a lot of them were started by Daffy Duck.
Hizbullah is builidng up an army in South Lebanon, in contravention of a UN resolution
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/143269?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook
Bahrain says Hizbullah is a terrorist organization that has been feeding protestors there.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/143281?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook
Hamas has been practicing its rocket-firing capabilities for the last month.
A 3-month-old Jewish baby had her throat slit and there was hardly a word about it.
Guess what’s coming next. And does anybody care?
I would like to page Jack Bauer right about now.
I wonder whether it is Hizbollah who was in Bahrain?
Bahrain expelled the Iranian diplomats because they were caught seeking out the protesters.
The protesters are Shiites. The king of Bahrain is Sunni.
It is possible that Iran is backing the protesters and is now secretly arming Hizbollah to go into Bahrain.
Meanwhile Iran’s ally, Assad in Syria is fighting his own battles.
This is HUGE!
It’s IMPEACHABLE HUGE!!!!!!!!
Obama signs orders to support TERRORISTS???
If it can be proved that they are terrorists.
The National Council for Transition is not made up of terrorists.
However, amongst those who are willing to fight Daffy, yes there are those who were associated with AQ and went to Iraq as mercenaries.
This is similar to KING obeyme’s illegal action in the last Kenyan presidential election as a sitting US Senator. He supported the challenger, communist ODINGA (a friend of his father and a Orange Democratic Movement member “a terrorist organization), against American alley president Kibahi. Voter and campaign fraud (like here in American during our last election)were alleged and present. In the ensuing chaos, Christians and loyalist were slaughtered by the thousands. KING obeyme got involved with 23 million taxpayer dollars. The result was a brokered power sharing agreement between Kibahi and Odinga in which a Shari Law compliant Constitution was established and abortion was legalized. Sounds somewhat like Libya.