Obama…a passing fad in the college world?
Sort of like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Miami Vice or parachute pants….Obama may just be a passing fad for some young voters…specifically young white college students… this according to John Vinocur of the New York Times, who did a story about a symposium at Oberlin College titled “Oberlin-based Perspectives on the Obama Presidency”. According to Vinocur, Oberlin is a very liberal college campus…more so than most but the young enthusiastic little liberals are cooling to “The One”.
“These days, many of the themes of Mr. Obama’s early speech-making that could well stir the campus are gone from the president’s frame of reference.
Potentially pleasing to his campus activist supporters, his initial areas of focus — a world without nuclear weapons, or an apologetic refusal to hold up U.S. democracy as a model for the Arab and Islamic world — have been scaled down as presidential hallmarks.
The realities of Mr. Obama’s re-election next year are 9.1 percent unemployment, as opposed to 7.6 percent when he took office, and prices for houses that have fallen to 33 percent below their 2006 levels, decimating millions of families’ notional wealth.”
Vinocur also noted that most college students just flat-out don’t care that “Obama got Osama”. In fact, they were asking questions like…
“Why were we shooting an unarmed man” and “violating the sovereignty of a foreign nation”?
The reality? These kids were 18, 19 and 20 year old young first time voters who thought it was “cool” to vote for the first black president….now they are just about to graduate with little or no job prospects.
Hope!
Change!
Reality sucks.
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Plus Obama is just another old white man!
He's in his 6th decade of life already!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm 20, and I was close to being swayed by The Won in '08, but I was then convinced by common sense (or a reality check) that he was probably making empty promises before I voted. I go to college in Cleveland, and I've picked up a little feeling that the general public in Ohio is turning on Obama.
I'd love to hear about what they're saying at other predominantly liberal colleges, though (like some in CA, NY, maybe even close to DC), or with upcoming new voters.
I do know that there are some die-hards (and devoted Jon Stewart watchers) that have linked Fox News to the core of the GOP and/or Tea Partiers (and thusly they're the worst thing ever). So it may be a while yet until common sense leaks into more and more colleges.
Why do you call him "The Won"? It is weird.
I posted what I'm seeing at law school in CA– verrrrrrrrry liberal– below
This doesn't surprise me at all. Many of the students who voted for him have left college, only to find there are no jobs and no way to pay off their massive student debt. Newer students are coming from families where they are bound to have members unemployed, and have been feeling the pain for some time now.
I have nieces who have had to scale back college plans because they simply can't afford them. One of their parents is unemployed, they're barely hanging onto their home, and the girls can't find jobs. One of them finally got a job a few months ago and is working full time to help out the family and pay down the debt she already has. Finishing college for her and many other students has become a pipe dream.
My 21 year old niece says that in 2008 all of her friends were Obama supporters, now not one of them says they will vote for him again. They feel like they were lied to and fed a bunch of BS. Their hope is gone and the change he promised was not for the better. Maybe they've just gotten older and wiser, I hope so!
gillyo, you are right. Someone I talk to on facebook told me a story yesterday of something that really surprised him. He was driving into Maryland yesterday and he saw a group of about 20 college age kids with signs displayed to motorists for Sarah Palin. He said, and I quote, "I couldn't believe my eyes".
Wow. I'm truly astonished. This is People's Republic of Maryland, for crying out aloud. If this happens in Takoma Park, then we'll know we've truly turned the corner.
I am around college age people all the time. Most of them have gone from voting for Obama to being staunch libertarians now. They have seen what the democrat party is all about and they don't like it one bit. Most were disillusioned with Bush and now see that Obama is Bush amplified ten fold.
My daughter just obtained her doctorate degree and attended uber liberal universities, so she has many liberal friends and acquaintances. Back in 2008, Obama was all they talked about. Now they never mention him at all. Says a lot.
Hey, now! Watch it! That last Turtles movie was kinda cool, even for an old fogey parent who stepped on too many a ninja turtle weapon in the middle of the night (along with those painful one-dot Legos and Barbie high-heel shoes)! Or… am I just proving TMNT are no longer cool?
But O'Bama? Can't fade fast enough.Today I just finally watched the Stanley Kurtz talk here: http://www.davidhorowitztv.com/wednesday-morning-…
(which link I prob'ly got from HillBuzz). Even with all I'd read about the socialist in chief, I learned some new things. Problem is, there's still many folks, like a few relatives of mine, who don't care about such matters. O'Bama still has his support network. They're organized. They're ruthless. They're out to destroy US.
OTOH, What if O'Bama is yesterday's news by late next year, and, as the White House Insider suggests, the duffer in chief ends up (unthinkably, historically) NOT the Dem nominee in '12? Many folks have posted reasons why he might bow out/be forced out. How do you think the nation would vote on Palin v Hillary, for example?
Yeah the silence is always telling. I always knew the college kids would live to rue their votes for the beige wonder. Nothing like reality mugging ideology that has been developed in a vacuum!
I have been amazed as I have read David Mamet's new book, The Secret Knowledge, on his take on liberal colleges and degrees. Giving me a lot of pause as my oldest is four years from college.
I know that the only 2 family members that voted for Obama in my family was one daughter and and son in law. Both late 20's. They were stuck on the no raising taxes of over 250K..couldn't get passed that one. The both would say he can't do to much damage in 4 years..They are now singing a different tune completely. Seeing the government spending, cost of food and gas going up along with his Obamacare etc. He's toast in this family. My whole family were registered Dems for years, but never voted straight party lines. As of 3 days ago we are ALL now registered Republicans.
I was watching T.V. yesterday and saw Tom Hanks (extreem liberal Obamabot) giving a graduation address for Harvard University. I caught his words "you will now work hard every day for the rest of your lives… I finished his sentence for him with the words-At McDonalds!
Having volunteered for the HRC campaign exposed the democrap party fully to me. THEY SUCK! The men are immoral and stupid men who never did an honest days work in their lives and the women are stepford wives at best, vagina opportunists at worst.
The Tea Party was created because Bush handed the Dems as some kind of deal-Cronie capitolism when he initiated the first TARP bailout. Mostly dems voted for this out right theft of tax payers money to go directly to Soros preferred banks and corporations. If McCain had the courage to vote agaisnt Bushes TARP he might have won.
Your statement that Obama is Bush ten fold is correct. The Bushes are globalists and elitists. They hate Sarah Palin and want the other son of a polygamist Mitt Romney to go up against Obama.
The Tea Party is somethin ghtat young college students should be evaluating for themselves instead of letting coward Jon Stewart do their thinking for them.
Although I agree with the last line of your post, the first part sets an ugly tone. The blanket statements you make about democrats are offensive and untrue. Some dems are as awful as you say, but all of them? Come now. Many people on this site have deep roots with the democrat party, regardless of their current affiliation. I don't like many democrats stances, and there are certainly individuals that I can't stand, but categorizing every last one as immoral, stupid and brainless sounds like MSM dem propaganda in reverse.
It bothers me when I hear that all republicans hate poor people, worship guns, and believe in creationism. Some do. But not all of us. Throwing that kind of attitude back at them makes us look as bad as they do.
How about looking at it this way – after many years on the dem side, plenty of people here at Hillbuzz saw beyond the party's limitations. You can help current dems look at us republican, libertarian, tea party types and show them the positive things we see – or you can tell them they're stupid and they'll always be stupid. Which approach do you think will be more persuasive?
This is the group for college kids are flocking to:
Young Americans for Liberty http://www.yaliberty.org/
In less than 8 months, over 500 college and high school chapters were established in all 50 states with over 26,000 students.
With this network, YAL seeks to recruit, train, educate, and mobilize students on the ideals of liberty and the Constitution. This is not a new beginning but a continuation of a youth movement already brewing in this country. Our objective is to facilitate its success.
Glad to hear it.
BTW, I’m the one who christened Teh Bamster “Duh!1″ because that is my opinion of his intellect. Thanks for the idea, Oprah…
It does not matter what circles you run in. Everyone is aware now and will not support Teh Won, if he even runs again at all. Dont be surprised if something comes up and he drops out of the race. You do not see it in the MSM, but you see it everywhere else. Inflation, the gas pump, unemployment, the debt, Libya and on and on. Of course the MSM is doing everything they can to protect this debacle but at the grass-roots level he has been exposed as a fraud and a history repeating socialist. It does not work, it will not work, america is not working and the plan and the agenda need to change. We need our college students to have jobs and a vibrant economy to partake in. They have neither. Change is coming, for the better.
I think that Obama's fall is going to be even more meteoric than his rise was. We are seeing more and more evidence of this every day. Come November 2012, it will be laid out for all to see. Even the mid-stream media will see it (but of course they won't report it.)
BTW, if I was a college kid who voted for him in '08, then found out that the guy I elected has no talent or interest in reviving the economy, thus making it impossible for me to get a job, yeah, I'd cool off to him, too.
It must be take amazing talents to be able to look at the teleprompter and give the loudest signal that you're bored to tears to be sitting there. If thought bubbles could be read by others, you'd wonder if he's wondering how he can slip out of there to play yet another round of golf. Man, I can't stand this loser. It used to be that I can't stand to hear his voice for it grates on my nerves. But now I can't stand to look at his picture. My hat-tip to the Hillbuzzers who do pay attention to this nitwit.
I'm a law student in CA (how much more liberal do places come?). While I still think most of my peers are staunch democrats, there is a complete absence of positive talk about Obama personally (HUGE difference from a few years ago– he was like a god, it was disturbing) and some negative talk (usually along fairly mundane lines, e.g., "Obama needs to stop hanging around in LA and wrecking the traffic and go be president!"– but still a big difference). I think the main reason people in my demographic are sticking with the democratic party is LGBT equality/marriage/etc., along with certain other "social" aspects– they are prioritizing that over the economics. So I guess that's my POV from CA as someone surrounded by the educated mid-20s set.
how can they not support Obama? As Joe Biden says "That's Storybook" Man"
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How can these kids lose "Faith" in this man of "Faith"
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How can these kids turn on Obama after his mesmerizing stirring healthcare speech gave us Obamacare – how soon they forget what Obama did for us …errr to us
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Damn little uninformed twits. Every bad thing that's happening to them, they deserve. High student loan debts and no job prospects. This is the real world Kiddies, GROW UP!!!!
But WAIT, there's more … when it rains, it pours http://tinyurl.com/62kbvyn
On College Campuses, Obama's Not Cool Anymore http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/06/c…
I believe the youth unemployment rate is pushing 20%, and many recent college grads who are working are underemployed or don't have jobs in the field they were trained for.
Also, young people of the ADD generation are all about novelty. A huge draw for Obama in '08 was that he was so different from the usual candidate – not just black but also younger, more international, newer on the political scene, etc. Obama was cool because he was going to be a completely different kind of president. But in November of 2012, he'll just be the same old president we've had for the last four years.
Now, I doubt most of these young people will be so disillusioned that they'll actually vote for the GOP candidate, but I do think they'll be disillusioned enough that they won't donate money or volunteer for the reelection campaign. Some of them might not even be motivated enough to show up at the polls on election day. And those sorts of things can make a huge difference.