What: Hearings on the IRS persecution of conservatives and Christians
When: 6/4/2013 10am CST onwards
Why: Hearing individuals who were persecuted by the IRS testify to Congress about abuses
I’m going to live transcribe this hearing as I’m watching it. I apologize in advance if I get people’s names wrong, because I’m basing it on how the members of Congress are pronouncing the names of individuals and organizations. Some of these Congress Critters talk like they have mouths full of marbles. Others, on the Democrat side of the aisle, either seem drunk or have clear agendas to run damage control for the IRS.
Charles Rangle is talking as I start this and he’s clearly insisting this “problem” is just localized to Cincinnati and that it’s just the work of a few rogue nutters…and certainly not something Democrats did on purpose to punish and persecute the “enemies” of Barack Obama. Rangle does not ask questions, but instead gives his speech and says there is nothing much to see here and that no special prosecutor is necessary.
In my opinion, if there was ever a need for a Special Prosecutor is it now…and that officials from the IRS and the Obama Regime should be sent to prison over what they did. The IRS should also be gutted and put under the oversight of some nonpartisan group that would ensure that something like this never happens again. Long prison sentences for anyone caught using a government agency for political purposes are required.
Let’s reopen Alcatraz to house these IRS officials.
1018am CST — Congressman Brady. Asks about how frightened people were when the IRS targeted them for expressing their political views. Woman named “Ms. Martinek” said she was so scared she never thought she could stand up. She said that if she was denied the 501C3 she could not get donors to her group. Her board members would not give up and were not scared. She said that she is a group that prays for an end to abortion…and that her group was being targeted because it opposed Planned Parenthood.
Another woman, in blue, name Ms. Garrett says she was scared because it was tyrannical for the government to use agencies against individuals. Another man’s personal tax information was deliberately given out by the IRS to Democrats…and the donor lists from his groups were given to Democrats so that they could harass the man’s donors.
Ms. Belsom, another witness, says she fears what the government will do next. She never thought this would happen in the US. All of this is happening under our noses, they say, and the IRS persecution of Americans is terrifying because this is not supposed to happen here.
1030am CST — Paul Ryan questioning.
Sigh. This man would have made a great VP…and he had just a few minutes to question here. But he got to the fact that people were being told that if they didn’t do anything to upset the Left, then they could be tax exempt…but if they engaged in activity that upset the Obama Regime then they would be denied their tax exempt status.
1032am CST — vile racist toad John Lewis is up next. He doesn’t ask any questions, but instead says that nothing bad happened to no one and that “back when Bush was president the NAACP was hassled” so that if anything is happening to white folks now, well, he doesn’t have a problem with that. It was asinine as usual from this man. Remember he is the one that held hands with Steny Hoyer and walked across the capital grounds smiling with Nancy Pelosi the day they jammed Obamacare through Congress. He is one of the Left’s high profile
fool foot soldiers. He also reminds me of Mr. Toad from the Wild Ride at Disneyland.
1036am CST — Congressman Noones is talking. He says that it’s a lie that this is all located just to Cincinnati. He’s trying to get the names of people higher up in the IRS who were behind this stuff.
The bad thing about these sorts of hearings is that there are about a half dozens citizens up there, and they are not professional speakers. So it’s like pulling teeth to get information out of them. It also suffers because each Congress Critter only has a few minutes each…and the Democrats all use the hearings to give speeches saying that nothing had happened. The Republicans are trying to get the names of all IRS people involved in any of this and want to bring them all before the committee.
They also want to have Lois Lerner dragged before Congress in chains if need be to get her to speak.
1041am CST — Congressman Tiberi…talks about abuses his constituents reported to him.
The gist of this is that Democrats keep saying that things aren’t that bad…or it’s Bush’s fault…and Republicans say that the IRS needs to be cracked open and examined thoroughly.
The scary thing is that none of this gets to the root of the problem…or to the reality that the tax system is rotten to the core.
That’s really what we have here, though: the IRS has proven it can’t be trusted and has shown that it does persecute people based on their religion or politics. I see that Drudge has a blurb up that Jay Leno got THUNDEROUS applause when he said the IRS, not Gitmo, should be closed.
The media is claiming that this IRS business is not a big deal for people…but it really is. People who don’t know anything at all about politics know what the IRS is…and that it’s an organization that’s been allowed to grow too powerful and become too threatening. It really has become very un-American and needs to be dialed back. If Homeland Security could be created after 9/11 and fold a bunch of agencies into it, then something could be created to police and scrutinize the IRS.
And anyone working for the IRS should be subject to intense criminal prosecutions for ever targeting any American for persecution. On top of that, there should be huge financial fines to them and the IRS for this happening.
1050am CST — Congressman Reichert is talking. He has a very mousy voice. He’s going over some of the testimony from that last hearing on the IRS, before Memorial Day week. He’s talking about Mr. Miller from the IRS “providing poor customer service” and was then asked to resign.
Who else gave “poor customer service” under Miller or Lois Lerner?
Reichert is mocking Miller. But his voice is so deadpan it’s hard to tell. He’s saying it’s ridiculous to think any of what the IRS did was inadvertent. The IRS purposefully released information on people. Reichert is a former police detective. He says there are a lot of questions that need to be asked. He wants a woman named Nancy Marx to appear before Congress and be grilled.
Reichert asks for any other names of people who should be dragged before Congress and questioned:
* Sheila May Robinson
* Ron Bell
* Mitch Steele
* Joseph Herr
* Holly Paz
* Robert Chou
* Stephen Ciok
* Lois Lerner
* Holly Paz again
Some of the witnesses can’t remember names and say they will provide them later. How can you not remember names? Geesh. If someone was persecuting me I’d know their name for the rest of my life…but some people when they go in front of cameras freeze up.
Hey, have YOU written to your Congress Critters and Senators telling them how upset you are hearing what the IRS has been doing? Do you know of anyone who has been harassed by the IRS?
You need to write Congress a letter. Email it and FAX it. You can use the free www.faxzero.com site. I write to Congress all the time to tell them about things and have written about the IRS abuse already. If you don’t know how to do this, speak up in comments and I will help you.
11am CST — Congressman Boustany asks man named Eastman how his donor list was given to the Human Rights Campaign and published online. What happened was that this group that opposes gay marriage was targeted…and the IRS gave the HRC (a gay group) the donor lists for this other group so that the Gaystapo could come after this man and his group. HuffingtonPost published the documents too, which they got from HRC.
The IRS seems to have broken a bunch of federal laws doing this…because they were able to prove that the documents that were posted were protected, secure documents that would make the release criminal. The Justice Department has to prosecute these people…but don’t hold your breath that Eric Holder will do this, since he didn’t prosecute the Black Panthers either.
Geesh. This is scary stuff. The IRS not only targeted people for audit but it dug through tax returns and then thought about who out there would do the most damage to the group if they got ahold of their donor lists and tax returns. That’s going above and beyond and operating as an actual political organization…that’s the thing the DNC itself does, which means the IRS is acting like it’s the DNC some of the time.
Congressman Roskam told a story about Lois Lerner threatening him or someone he knew on the phone, saying he would have problems with the IRS if he ever ran for office again. Looks like he ignored her if it was him because he is a sitting Congress Critter now.
Congress says that “we will get this right” and “we will set this right” but I don’t trust that.
Regular people need to do something about this and go door to door in their neighborhoods and make sure that everyone knows about the bad things the IRS has been up to. More regular folks need to be involved in this….not just Congress Critters.
If you are watching this testimony, look at the people sitting behind the Congress Critters…these are assistants and aides and what-not. Look at them. Most are disheveled, wear really ugly clothes, look poorly groomed. Remember this the next time that anyone tells you the government is all-knowing and all-powerful. The government agents who try to do bad things to people are fumblers and bumblers, like the people who you see in these hearings behind the Congress Critters. They are not geniuses…and if they were, they would not be working in government. They can indeed be exposed and NO they will not get away with the things they have done. They are not smart enough to cover their trails. That is heartening.
1124am CST — a really big issue was just highlighted over the last few minutes. Mr. Eastman, who is from a marriage integrity group, has been saying that it’s been a systematic attack on his group and others like him in order to defund them so that gay marriage groups (like Equality Illinois in Chicago) could raise as much as they want while keeping groups that oppose them broke. So, Democrats use the IRS to target some groups for intimidation…so that those groups then can’t oppose groups that Democrats want to succeed.
This is why I will never, ever vote for another Democrat for any office in my entire life. I just don’t want to ever give any sort of approval to these tactics. I am sick of it and ashamed of it and angered by it.
Democrats know they can’t win on ideas…so they try to silence their opponents. That should not be acceptable. That is like a sports team constantly drugging their opponents, breaking their legs, or slashing the tires on their bus so they can’t get to the game. I hate that.
1130am CST — Fabulous! Closeted Republican Aaron Schock is speaking. He looks dorky here, but is quite the stud with his shirt off in Men’s Health magazine I do admit. When they show him from behind, he’s losing lots of hair on top though…so he won’t be a cover model for long. Enjoy the “hottest Congressman” label while it lasts, Aaron. And come out this month for Pride and start living your life as who you really are inside!
Schock’s asking for the budgets of the these groups that were harassed. It’s hilarious, but on his right wrist he’s wearing a “buddy bracelet”…these are bracelets that young twinks make for each other, kind of like a “going steady” thing. Might mean that Aaron has a boyfriend now (good for him!).
Schock’s establishing that the conservative groups had budgets like $254 a year or even -$1,300 a year (losing money)…while groups on the Left that were not harassed had giant budgets, especially that Organizing for America and other Obama cult groups that are never persecuted. An argument broke out where they tried to get Aaron Schock to yield his time but he wouldn’t…which is great of him.
I don’t have very much respect for Aaron Schock and he’s not a very nice guy here in Illinois…and he usually does what Democrats want him to do because he’s scared they will out him otherwise…but he didn’t do what they wanted and pretend this is not a problem today.
1148am CST — Congressman Marchant uses phrase “Conspiracy of Arrogance”. He says that the IRS has been lying to Congress for at least a year, more than more. Repeatedly the IRS has been lying to Congress in writing denying that conservatives and Christians have been persecuted by the IRS, when we know that this is true and has been happening.
That Mr. Eastman from the marriage group said that his group engages in the same activity as the HRC, but his group was harassed when the HRC was not harassed. So the IRS is clearly choosing to go after the side it does not want to win the debate.
Conspiracy of Arrogance is a great phrase for all of this. There needs to be criminal penalties for people in the IRS, not just “I’m sorry”.
1156am CST — Congresswoman Black from Tennessee asked about the IRS demanding the names of the 7th grade students who were participating in some Constitution learning class. The IRS was demanding the names of students to harass them. Geesh.
She then asks all the citizens assembled if they were scared off of activities…and people said that their donors were audited for the first times in their lives and people were afraid the government would come after their businesses.
You need to call, write, email, and fax your own Congress Critters and tell them how you feel about this.
Two other things that just keep coming up as another Congress Critter is talking:
* IRS demanded to know the content of people’s prayers
* Democrats keep talking about 501C3 versus 501c4 and then a 527 group. I don’t think a lot of people have a good handle on the differences between those. Making a list to write about that tomorrow or the next day. If you can find a good article with a nice illustration on that, please add it in comments.
1224pm CST — one of the Congress Critters who was just talking asked a great question: what do you want done?
I have to think about that and come up with a few specific things, other than jail the IRS officials involved. Enforce the law on the books and prosecute IRS officials for felonies. Reopen Alcatraz as a prison and allow people to poke at Lois Lerner and others through the bars with sticks. These are just off the top of my head.
You should start thinking about what you want to see happen to the IRS and write a letter to your Congress Critters about it.
1228pm CST — hearing adjourned.
QUESTION FOR COMMENTS: Are you watching these hearings? What’s the most egregious thing you have heard the IRS do.
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