Hillbuzz Open Thread: November 9, 2011
The voters of Ohio opened a big can of whoop-ass on Obamacare yesterday, and I couldn’t be more proud of everyone involved in drafting the Ohio Healthcare Freedom Amendment, circulating petitions to get it on the ballot, buying ads and yard signs with their own money, and voting it in. It was perhaps one of the biggest grassroots efforts in the history of Ohio. In some counties, one out of every four active voters signed petitions to get Issue 3 on the ballot.
And yet today’s coverage in the Democrat-Controlled Media is wall-to-wall Issue 2.
As the folks at BigGovernment.com have noted, the success of Issue 2 is due largely to a $30 million union-funded disinformation campaign that told Ohio voters they would bleed to death in the streets if government union members had to pony up 15% of their healthcare premiums.
“Out-of-state union donations, grossly understated by Ohio media, far exceeded the “Yes on 2″ campaign’s entire budget. The Ohio Education Association (OEA), a despicable band of hypocrites whose average pay in 2010 was more than $95,000, took an extra $54 from every member to kill Senate Bill 5 … The unions spent more than $800,000 collecting signatures for the referendum …
“We Are Ohio” claimed passing Issue 2 would mean fewer firefighters and nurses, leaving Ohio houses to burn and patients to perish. They released a radio ad saying Issue 2 would “take us back to the days of Jim Crow,” misrepresenting at every turn the effort to limit union power as an attack on Ohio’s middle class. They lied that Republican politicians exploited a “loophole” in the bill, though elected officials have never been subject to collective bargaining. They insisted local budgets were dandy before Kasich’s election.”
What’s your take on the Ohio election results? What’s the spin where you live?
What else is on your mind today?
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Just ran across this two-month-old Herman Cain ad. Dang, the man's publicity staff is creative! http://www.youtube.com/user/thehermancain?blend=7…
A quick ground "comment" from Mississippi. Last night, there were two interesting ballot initiatives passed by the citizens of Mississippi — a voter ID requirement (the dead and the scammers were hardest hit) and the eminent domain issue (Mississippi decided to keep the government from exercising eminent domain to purchase private property for non-public use — i.e. giving it to a business that wants to put a plant in a certain area).
Also being lost in the noise is the fact that Mississippi's Senate remained in Republican control, the governor's office remained in Republican control, and that Mississippi's House of Representatives *may* have flipped out of the hands of the corrupt good-old-boy-Democrats to the Republicans (a few races are going to be challenged). If this is true, this is an enormous victory over gridlock, corruption, and wasteful spending. Plus, we might be able to rein in Attorney General Jim Hood (the only Democrat elected to statewide office).
All in all, it was a good night. We've still got a few people that need to be kicked out on the state and local level, but this is a great kickoff to the 2012 elections…
Apparently a Cain accuser has filed other complaints at other jobs, too. No, not Allred's bimbo. This is ANOTHER bimbo!
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-accuser-filed-…
Good detective work! From my experience inside government work for over 30 years, that type of person is always looking to use any means to promote themselves because they are incompetant and cannot progress on their own merits.
Sounds a lot like Alinsky's "means to an end", doesn't it?
Thanks for the link. I saw that link on another site, but when I clicked on it I got a message that Yahoo had taken that page down. Anyway, clearly one of his NRA accusers is a serial sexual harassment complainer whenever she doesn't get her own way at work. With Cain her accusation – at least the most "serious" one, in her words – was that he held his hand up to his chin and told her she was about the same height as his wife. Excuse me? Where is the "egregiously offensive" part of that? If my boss said that to me, I'd laugh! And since Herman Cain's nature is to be funny and affable, I'm sure that's what he was doing. Just being funny. Apparently this woman is short and has absolutely NO sense of humor. If you've ever seen a picture of Cain's lovely wife Gloria, she is also very petite. So here is a salient part of the Yahoo piece:
"Details of the workplace complaint that Kraushaar made at the immigration service are relevant because they could offer insights into how she responded to conflicts at work. She now works as a spokeswoman in the office of the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration.
Kraushaar's complaint was based on supervisors denying her request to work full time from home after a serious car accident in 2002, three former supervisors said. Two of them said Kraushaar also was denied previous requests to work from home before the car accident.
"The complaint also cited as objectionable an email that a manager had circulated comparing computers to women and men, a former supervisor said. The complaint claimed that the email, based on humor widely circulated on the Internet, was sexually explicit, according to the supervisor, who did not have a copy of the email. The joke circulated online lists reasons men and women were like computers, including that men were like computers because "in order to get their attention, you have to turn them on." Women were like computers because "even your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for later retrieval."
So, has anyone else seen that internet joke about women and computers? I certainly have, and have circulated it as an "oldie but a goodie" many times. Have any of you seen it and been mortally offended and decided to charge your boss for sexual harassment for sending it to you? Give me a freaking break!
I notice that this woman, when she LOST her attempt to extort money out of one Federal department, then changed jobs and went to work for another. I've got this woman's number. I've fired a lot of people like her over the years.
I just heard that Joe Paterno will be announcing his retirement.
…here is how this gets successfully spun:
1. Sandusky's attorney announces that his client had converted in his heart to Islam many years ago, and was simply following its mandated religous practices. Following this, Barack DownLow Obama appoints Sandusky as the new head of NASA..
2. The university simply adds one word to its name, becoming Kal Penn State, thereby activatiing the GLBT protection racket…
My poor old laptop is thankful that I finished my coffee before reading your comment.
…..then it is fortunate that I did not mention how, given Dr. Conrad Murray's conviction, I recalled way back when Michael Jackson's musical talent was discovered during the time time he spent as an ASSsistant defensive coordinator at Penn State…
You’re killin’ me here!!!!
I'm proud to post that I was a collector of signatures. Something I've NEVER done in my life. Praise God Ohio got this one right.
I really hate ballot initiatives, as a rule. We, the people, vote for our representatives. They go to the Capitol and write, vote on bills, and our Governor signs or not signs it into law. Then the people vote to repeal said law–it is what mob rule looks like. And the voters were so easily emotionally manipulated.
BRAVO and thank you, from another Buckeye!
I think the destruction left by Sarah Palin on the 5 of october is just too big. The disappoitment of millions of people who followed her and really thought she was going to be the savior of conservatism and Christan values seeking the presidency of the USA might have brought an easy Obama reeelection and the destruction of the GOP and the Tea Party movemement.
…do not be too sure that the roulette wheel has stopped spinning:
http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/11/08/a-lat…
The media is telling us in Ohio that the Issue 2 victory is really a huge victory for all middle class working Ohioans, not JUST union workers. The lies still do not stop. The massive money poured into continuous lies about the issue to scare people are obviously the reason it failed. There was little advertising about Issue 3 (Obamacare) on the pro-side and I never once saw anything about voting against issue 3 on TV or on yard signs. No one wanted to spend real money to make that one fail. I am very upset about the overturn on Issue 2/SB5. I understand that there are some new bill or bills that will be introduced in Columbus to deal with it failing that should be submitted almost immediately. I have no details on the specifics and am anxious to see what they will do next as this must be dealt with for the solvency of our state.
I do not usually post a comment on Hillbuzz, although, I do read the post most everyday. I am from Ohio and I feel I should enlighten some of your readers from other states regarding Issue 2. First off, this is not just a union issue. I was opposed to Issue 2, because it would do away with collective bargaining and give total control to one side (big business). I might also add, I do not work for a union, I have been gainfully employed for 38 years by the private sector. I do have family members who are union and I respect their position on some things, and tell them when I don't agree.
This said, unions have to realize times are tough and they have to pay their fair share, but this will not happen if we have no collective bargaining. During the last month we have received numerous things to read regarding Issue 2. Our local paper printed a special section for voters to read and educate themselves before voting. Do you know, Issue 2 took up more than 50 pages!!! Oh there was all kinds of things added to this issue, which had nothing to do with what everyone thought Issue 2 was about!! That is one of the big reasons it was voted down, voters are sick of government trying to sneak and slide things into a bill, thinking no one will read it (gee, sounds like ObamaCare) and it will pass!! Okay, I will get off my soapbox, thank you for letting me vent. I am proud to say I am one of Ohio's citizens who voted against Issue 2.
States should be RIght to Work in that every employer fairly displays on its premises information that gives employees information about how to participate in a union and what to do if you do not wish to be part of a union. A true example of employee rights.States don't need to shoot themselves in the foot by totally removing collective bargaining rights. By providing employees real choice, unions will naturally fade away. Make the collection of union dues the responsibility of the union and not the employer and let the employee be responsible to pay their dues if it is union representation that they want. This is real employee choice.
I just tried to respond to the "Firsthand Experience with Communism" thread and got :
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I would suggest going to your local Russian Orthodox parishes and asking. You just might get lucky and find a few, very few, who witnessed the 1917 Revolution. Pretty sure you will find some of their children, and some of the latest wave after the fall of Communism who grew up under ig.
Joe, that’s not the text we have on our 404 Page template. You may have some kind of malware installed on your computer.
OK, thanks. I'll run a scan tonight. The weird thing it was ONLY on that one thread.
“Scared Mittless”
http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/11/scared-mit…