GREAT MERCIFUL ZEUS: Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie admits there is no birth certificate for “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.” — which is because his post-adoption birth certificate actually says “Barry Soetoro” on it
Just listen.
Neil Abercrombie admits to his friend, a radio host, that there is no birth certificate with the name “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.” on it.
That is because his birth certificate says “Barry Soetoro” on it.
That is what his birth certificate says since he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in the 1970s. Once a child is adopted, the original birth certificate is sealed and the adopted parents and the child’s new adopted name appear on the birth certificate.
There is a “Barry Soetoro” birth certificate on file in Hawaii…but there is none for “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.”.
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Da Tech Guy has an interesting take on your work:
http://datechguy.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/interesting-theory-but-seriously-who-cares/
“Interesting theory but seriously Who Cares?”
Your thoughts?
“…But Seriously Who Cares?””
I guess I have higher standards than Da Tech Guy for who leads this country.
Who is Da Tech Guy?
He’s a conservative/Catholic blogger. I’m not a regular reader but he seems like a good guy. Someone emailed me that post and I thought it was interesting.
He may be, but he seriously misses the point. The point is that somebody lied to get to where we are now.
I just bopped over there. Talk about morally tone-deaf.
Hehehe…I was waiting for another GMZ. Love those!
I do believe that there is some kind of certificate from BO’s adoption, but I’m not so convinced that Hawaii actually has it in their possession.
Hades has it locked under the sea with the Kraken. If BO were to release, it would also release the Kraken and then all hell breaks loose. Have you not seen Clash of the Titans?????? (-and the original was better)
Lolll …
LOVE THAT LITTLE MONKEY FACE of your gravATAR!!! WHO IS IT??
When you think about it though, that’s not the way it should be. There should be a birth certificate, and then a certificate of adoption, because that is what actually happened.
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/05/native-indonesian-soebarkah-most-likely-name-given-to-obama-upon-adoption-by-indonesian-stepfather/
This is why I don’t think “Barry Soetoro” was ever a legally given name. I think it was used for certain forms, but none of any legal significance. Look at Stanley Ann’s passport application to see that she referred to “Soebarkah” as an alternative to Barack Hussein Obama, most likely because “Soebarkah” was documented as his official name on Indonesian paperwork stemming from his adoption. She would have had to provide the adoption papers as documentation.
If Hawaii has anything Indonesian, I think it references the name “Soebarkah”. I am still not convinced they have anything on file, though. Is there any reason she would have needed to file his adoption papers in Hawaii? Has he voted in Hawaii or anything that would require Hawaiian citizenship?
From the HDOH responses to UIPA requests I made for records created when BHO amended his ‘Place of Birth,’ his ‘Name,’ and his ‘Date of Birth’….ONLY the ‘Date of Birth’ amendment records request was answered by the HDOH denying me access according to state privacy laws. Isn’t that interesting?
The requests I made, at the same time, for records resulting from a ‘Name Change’ and amendment to his ‘Place of Birth’ came back with the answer that NO SUCH RECORDS EXIST.
However, that’s not to say that Obama was never ‘Barry Soetoro.’ He was in ‘Barry Soetoro’ in Indonesia–adopted legally or not. At least I am inclined to believe so from his school records photographed by the AP. As I recall, Texas Darlin’ had the theory that he just came back to the US and resumed using his original birth certificate – I go with that.
I recall reading once, that in Indonesia, a Muslim child is de facto adopted by a man after two years under his care. By that I mean I read it when looking at Indonesian law–not some second-hand source. But, the child and man have to be Muslim–it’s not de facto for *ahem* a Catholic child – hare, har.
The Post & Email story indicates that Indonesians typically had only one name, but would adopt a nickname + father’s single Indonesian name when there was a need to fill out Western style forms or other cases in which a first and last name are generally used. I think that’s where “Barry Soetoro” stemmed from.
I agree that *if* there is a U.S. birth certificate somewhere (I’m still not convinced), he simply reverted back to it when he returned to the states. There would be no real reason for his Indonesian certificate to be filed. The way his mother flitted around the world and used all kinds of different dates and locations on official paperwork, I don’t think she really cared about doing things properly.
I am persuing dual citizenship for my little boy, who (like Obama) was born with both U.S. and British citizenship. If I’ve learned one thing, it’s that countries don’t coordinate this stuff. The U.S. does not care that my son is British, and vice versa.
“I am persuing dual citizenship for my little boy, who (like Obama) was born with both U.S. and British citizenship.”
I don’t know about Obama, but I was, too.
I like to remind people that Obama was born under the British Nationality Act of 1958, too. His ‘team’ likes to omit this fact which is curious to me given that the BNA of 1958 left a lot of people ‘stateless.’
I would think communists and indigenous people might be ‘into’ the idea of being stateless.
To clarify, they only mention the BNA of 1948. Seems the BNA of 1958 would be ‘current events’ for a Kenyan student of law and parent of a child born in 1961.
Well, he was either British at birth or Kenyan. Doesn’t really matter to me
He was not natural born.
My little guy is British by virtue of his daddy, who immigrated from England.
this is the opposite case for the little girl “Turtle” (really cute reason for the name).
She was born here in Canberra. Her father is USAF and on posting.
The American Embassy have said NO to the dual citizenship.
In the interview you’ve linked, it says Abercrombie kept calling the president Barry, so he probably knew Obama under the name Barry Soetoro.
If Abercrombie was smart enough to look at the hospitals for records of the birth of Barack Omama Jr., don’t you think he would have been smart enough to look for a birth certificate under the adoptive name of Barry Soetoro?
He went by Barry Obama throughout high school and college. It was his nickname among his family, not something that they came up with in Indonesia.
I’ll concede the point about Barry Obama, though we don’t have most of those records to prove it.
So, do you think it didn’t occur to Abercrombie to look for the birth certificate under the name Barry Soetoro? If he knew Obama well enough, he might even have looked for the name Soebarkah somewhere in the records.
In my husband’s medical practice we have lots of patients who change their first and last names over the course of their lives. When we can’t find a record for a child under one combination of names, we know to ask for other possible combinations.
Trying again. I’ll concede that he may have gone by Barry Obama in high school and college, though most of those records are not available to us.
If Abercrombie knows Obama well, and he claims to, what are the odds that he would have neglected to look for records under Barry Soetoro or even the first or last name Soebarkah when a search under Barack Obama Jr. produced no results?
In my husband’s medical practice, patients often change their first and/or last names throughout life. When we can’t find a record under one set of names, we know to ask if there is another set of names that may have been used. Surely Abercrombie is enough of a bureaucrat to have thought of that.
Honestly, when I see that “Soebarkah” name, I get chills.
It’s so Klingon.
I really bet THAT is his actual real name, and it’s so bizarre that’s why he can’t explain any of this. It’s more bizarre than “Barry Soetoro”.
“Why is your legal name that strange one word thing?”
“Why did people growing up call you Barry?”
“Why do you call yourself Barack Hussein Obama?”
“Who are you?”
“Really. WHO. ARE. YOU?”
the answer to that question was at the post and email.
The name Soebarkah is the one that was given to him when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.
Indonesians typically use nicknames. This is the case with the name Lolo. Soetoro is his offical name but to fill out a Western form where two names are required he added Lolo.
At the Catholic school Barry’s name was written in as Barry Soetoro, not Soebarkah.
The only time we have seen the official Indonesian name which is Soebarkah has been on that passport application.
Ok, here’s what bothers me about the name ‘Soebarkah’ appearing in the passport records:
1.) Someone accessed the candidates passport files during the election and the key witness was later murdered: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/
2.) The cover letter indicates that some of the records had been destroyed although the agency that is given the blame says they ordered no such destruction of records.
3.) Here goes: To me, that first ‘a’ in the name ‘Soebarkah’ looks like too much like an ‘o’ that someone just added a tail to unlike the second ‘a.’
And then that makes me wonder if the ‘b’ could have originally been a ‘t.’
To me, it just looks like ‘Soebarkah’ could have once said ‘Soetoro’ and that would corroborate the school records in Indonesia.
During the campaign, that could not be allowed to happen.
It’s one thing for a school teacher to make an error in someone’s name, but not your own mother.
In other words, the fact that someone may have accessed these records and the whole wierd way they look, AND the fact that some of the records had been ‘disappeared’ according to the state department’s cover letter makes me just wonder about all of it.
I would love feedback…
(Here they are for download: http://www.scribd.com/document_downloads/direct/35163631?extension=pdf&ft=1292201473<=1292205083&uahk=5bXY6TbrfZ4u4PoHgj5Eq/X2eZg)
This is a follow-up to my comment that’s in moderation….
I can’t help but notice that every other page in the passport documents was scanned in color – but not the page with ‘Soebarkah’ written on it and it is page 2 of a two-sided form. The ink on Page 1 is black, but it still has some ‘hue’ to it and also there’s the red typewriter ink. And just look at the noise and funk in the background of page 1 and the back side just looks clean as a whistle? Sorry it’s weird.
Page 2 of that form looks like a scan of a photocopy – every other page of those passport forms looks like a color scan from an original…to me anyway. The papers don’t pass the smell test…
No, I don’t think that Abercrombie is that smart or knew Obama well enough to be aware of those other names. Bloggers are, though, and so far there’s no evidence anywhere that Barry Soetoro was officially used in Hawaii. Index data, which would list that name, is available for public consumption. Of course, they could be hiding it and breaking the law, but I doubt that. I’m not sure if anyone has looked deeply into the “Soebarkah” name yet, but it’s been out there for a little while so I assume so.
I believe that in her dealings with the U.S. government, Stanley Ann continued to use Obama’s American name, knowing that legal matters in Indonesia are not that relevant to the U.S.
Astonishing news … amazing.
1) Abercrombie in fact has NO personal knowledge that B.O. was born in the state. To the contrary, an eyewitness in a position to know (Abercombie) has no memory of B.O.’s birth to his dear, dear friends.
2) No bc exists.
Regardless of the explanation, this interview is gigantic news.
But this interview is also, I believe, all part of the ongoing Kabuki show initiated by Abercrombie. The precise motive, we do not know.
But it can be inferred, something profoundly corrupt is taking place with respect to this issue.
I suspect that there is indeed no birth certificate. I believe that Abercrombie and Obama discussed Abercrombie’s plans to search for the evidence, but I think that Obama was relying on various government peons to invoke the “privacy” concerns before Abercrombie got as far as he did and screwed things up. I don’t think either Abercrombie or Obama are as brilliant as some people like to think. The whole thing is going to fall apart because they are relying on too many different people to perpetuate a lie.
I think we can count on two things:
One, there are lots of people who are involved in this mess, who have knowledge of the magnitude of the fraud going on.
Two, that being the case, you had better believe that the Obama Gestapo is working very hard to keep things under wraps and that there more than likely is some major intimidation going on. This is one he[[ of a dangerous administration.
Sometimes I do judge a book by its cover, and this may come off as rude, but when I saw Abercrombie, and when I read his braggadocious comments that he was going to prove to those awful Birthers that Obama was born in a Hospital in Hawaii, and that he had seen Obama as an infant, which was the impression he gave early on, he seemed peculiarly flakey, almost as if he just went through a 12 step program for recovering flower children. I feel sorry for Hawaii, they really elected a doozy.
I agree…I think the conspiracy theories give him too much credit. I don’t necessarily think that Obama would take him seriously enough to coordinate a plan with him (until it became clear he was a BIG liability).
Sadly, he reminds me of my city’s mayor, in both appearance and conduct.
If this is not a Kabuki show, then Abercrombie is a blithering idiot, and maybe he is.
Usually folks are successful politicians because they are idiot savants when it comes to political calculation, but maybe he is just a plain and simple idiot.
I could be naive, but I really do think that Abercrombie is an idiot. It became a Kabuki show AFTER he got far enough to create problems for Obama. Someone had a word with him, and that’s why the story changed to “privacy issue” instead of “no records”.
Here’s what I think happened:
Abercrombie took it upon himself to settle the birth certificate issue once and for all because he wanted to help dear leader get reelected.
Obama, knowing that Abercrombie is a complete buffoon, didn’t worry about it at first. He’s got plenty of government people in place to lie for him and block access, just like they have been doing all along with the general public.
Somewhere along the way, the firewall broke. Some government peon, blinded by Abercrombie’s status as governor and/or his nice personality, overshared.
Abercrombie flapped his big mouth and the Obama team made a few calls to make sure that there would be no more digging, citing privacy laws. Now Abercrombie is going to parrot that line, wrongfully indicating that there ARE files in existence, he’s just not allowed to see them.
Of course Obama could share his certificate with anyone and everyone if he really wanted to. Therein lies the Kabuki. There is no certificate. Team Obama is perpetuating the idea that the certificate is filed away and won’t be revealed because it contains embarassing information.
What could be so embarassing that it’s worth over two million dollars and government employees risking perjury?
“If this is not a Kabuki show, then Abercrombie is a blithering idiot”
It’s possible he has been acting on behalf of Dems who want to undermine Obama. He seems like a blithering idiot, but it’s possible he’s not.
I agree here-methinks there may be a clinton involved somewhere
“he seemed peculiarly flakey,”
I picked up that exact thing, too!
Yes, he was lying and acting all big and tough, but he wasn’t good at it, at all, and it showed!
He’s probably usually just a big ‘ol silly mess of liberalism–but not a ruthless lying pig liberal. Is that what you saw, too?
he also managed to contracted statements that he made at least 2 years prior when he actually stated that he did not really remember Ann being with Barry Sr…. how interesting.
There is another man who was part of the same group and he did not remember Ann.
don’t know what my keyboard was writing… the word is contradict not contracted.
Abercrombie has contradicted his own earlier statements about not really seeing Ann with Barry Sr.
Far from casting dispersions on the Hawaiian people, they may well have saved us by electing Abercrombie. Think about it. Would anyone who was not PERSONALLY there take such steps to prove to himself that Obama is who he says he is? The guy describes Abercrombie as “militant” in defending that Obama was born there. Who but someone like this would have had the audacity to search the records, and make PUBLIC that he’s going to do so?
Bet, Obama’s wishing Linda what’s her name was never voted out of office.
Linda Lingle was not voted out of office.
Her term as Governor was up.
The Evans interview is linked at the top of Drudge right this minute. I found out because I just got a call about it from a friend who followed the Drudge link and listened to the interview and found it persuasive. This is a friend who has made fun of me for being a “birther.” My friend is a highly educated and successful professional, not some kid in his mother’s basement.
I believe the Drudge link is huge. Millions who would not otherwise know of the interview will discover it today.
As I read the twists and turns in this story, there are two questions that keep coming to mind. First, what would we have to discover from revealing the original birth certificate that would be so astounding as to challenge Obama’s legitimacy as president, now that he’s two years in? That the COLB is totally bogus and he was born in Kenya? I think that’s unlikely. But we could discover something that would reveal another lie, something that shows Obama, as an adult, fabricated and perpetuated a lie about himself. Something that would disillusion enough independents to guarantee he’s a one term pres. The second scenario is more interesting to me.
Here’s what I honestly think, and I’ve followed this story from nearly the beginning back in ’07… I think “Barack” used whatever name and identity was expedient at the time to whatever he was pursuing. He needed to get into college? Use the foreign name to get special perks. He needed graduate school and some street cred, he changed his name to the one that sounded “blacker” to get the civil rights cred. He is a camelion. He is at this moment whatever he needs to be to convince you to 1) like him, 2) do whatever he says.
Witness now the ever-changing hair color. Need to look older and wise, gray. Need to look young and healthy, black.
He melds and molds and lies and charms… Actually I think that weird one-name thing probably fits him better than any of the others.
AND it’s a Klingon name, which explains not only where Michelle Antoinette gets all her clothes, but where he found her in the first place.
ROFL! I think we need to use that name, Soebarkah, as much as possible going forward! Barry Soetoro is too boring.
How about running a campaign that involves yard signs that say, “I won’t vote for Soebarkah, Barry Dunham, Barry Soetoro, Barack Obama or whoever he really is. Even so, I think it’s important to know!”
If millions around the country had the signs in their yard, it would be hard not to notice, wouldn’t it? It would also show, seeing the birth certificate isn’t about Hawaii.
From now on, I think I’ll refer to him as President Soebarkah in public. It’s obscure and weird enough for people to ask about the name. I’ll tell them it’s his real name, and to look it up, which will lead more people to research the bc issue.
You know, considering how much he likes to liken himself to the savior, I’m surprised his not running with the single name thing. Maybe he missed a big opportunity.
I agree, because I have a liberal relative who does precisely the same thing: using different variations of her name, associating with a variety of religions, adopting bits and pieces of different cultures that float her boat, fibbing about where she was born and raised, etc. etc. etc.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. All of the obsfucations…all of the loose ends are simply a cover up of the fact that he has multiple records under multiple names. Even his mother went by Stanley Ann Dunham, Anna Obama, Ann Soetero, etc (probably collecting various SS#s for each name as well.) It’s much easier to hide money and get different grants and benefits when you are using multiple names. I’m not sure of the numbers but haven’t invesigators found multiple SS#s associated with BHO?
This whole diversion of the Birth Certificate is simply an attempt to hide the fact that, as you stated, he has used whichever name has benefited him most in a particular situation. And while you can call yourself whatever name you like in your personal life, when it comes to official documents, if you use different names to obtain financial benefits, it is called FRAUD and it is generally frowned upon in most societies!
the difference with Ann Dunham is that she really did marry Lolo Soetoro and take on his name, and then she returned to her maiden name per her divorce papers from Lolo Soetoro.
She also appears to have married Barry Sr. and she apparently divorced him.
She certainly never lived with Barry Sr.
Do you have any idea how long this type thing has been going on right here in the good ol’ USA. My state is now even proposing legislation for fingerprinting to stop medicaid card holders from swapping them for use for medical benefits.
If there is a way to game the system those who think they are entitled will find a way to do it and hasn’t he done it for the last two years?
The new governor can’t find any record of the WH occupier being born in either of the 2 hospitals in Hawaii where babies were born in 1961. What a shocker!
I did see a high school yearbook picture and he went by the name Barry Soetero in HS.
I think Neil smoked too much Maui Wowi back in the day.
I still think it’s creepy how all references to Queens just… disappeared when K’apali (spelling and I don’t care to look it up) had their 100 year anniversary and BHO (or someone) sent that letter saying how honored he was to have been born there. Literally within days ALL references to him being born at Queens were GONE.
Interesting tidbits from White House Insider
regarding BC controversy:
Proceed at Your Own Risk:
http://newsflavor.com/world/usa-canada/white-house-insider-proceed-at-your-own-peril/
Now I’m curious . . . just who are the bigger fish he is referring to???
That is a VERY interesting article. I’ve read several of his. This one seems very… cover-your-head-it’s-coming. Then I see it in red on Drudge and hear Limbaugh talking and AZ coming out with the new law. I’ve been a “birther” from nearly the start, got shouted down, called names, laughed at, ridiculed, pitched off of sites I very much enjoyed.
But I always knew “there is something there.” Far too many questions, not nearly enough solid answers. And I love MissTickly for saying that she doesn’t ridicule anybody’s theories because sans facts that’s all we have to go on.
My question now… what happens to the Supreme Court when all of this comes down like a house of cards, and could we be looking at President Boehner being sworn in at some point?
Riddle me this everybody:
This is currently RED-HEADLINED on Drudge.
Nine hundred and two (902) comments and only three hundred and ten (310) views?
Huh.
I got news for everyone. Any company whose motto is “Don’t Be Evil,” probably has had a problem with the evil before.
YouTube shut off the page views so nobody can tell how many page views it’s actually getting.
Very interesting. Trying to keep it off the YouTube front page. They can do everything in their power to bury it, but the s**t has hit the fan. I don’t think this story is going away this time. O is in trouble.
Yep. Obama is in trouble. At this point it would be prudent to release the embarrassing long form and let the chips fall where they may.
EXCEPT, there is no long form unless you go to Kenya.
The Kenyan Standard (6/27/04) “Kenyan born U S. Senate hopeful Barrack Obama appeared to take (over) the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival Jack Ryan dropped out.”
The Nigerian Observer (11/04/08)
“The Kenyan born Senator will however, face a stiff competition from his Republican counterpart John McCain.”
It says “4,218″ when I went there…
They updated it shortly after I posted. It’s been at 4,218 for a while now…definitely not updating in real time. I’d be interested to know how they arrive at their numbers. No way is this a top story on Drudge and it only has 4,000 hits.
Ah…so it is.=) Locked in at 4,218.
Interesting, indeed.
The number of comments keeps going up and up and up, yet the page views never move.
Interesting comment on YouTube:
“I support Obama, however his status as a native born citizen has not been established in the perception of the public.
I at this time do not know if he was or was not born within the United States or governed territories of the United States. Our public officials ask us to rely upon their assurances that President Obama was born within the United States and denounce us when we request proof. This attitude is akin to asking us to accept this as a matter of faith, but we ask for proof instead.”
I wonder how many others on his side are starting to question this?
Something to think on for you all,
regarding “inserting” records into existing record books being a risky business. A citizen researcher on a mission for me at the Honolulu Dept. of Health in 7/10, captured an image from the General Birth Index – of obama’s entry.
We are the only people to have done this.
The IMPORTANT thing to notice in this image is the name ABOVE obama’s :
The index data page image is towards the bottom of the post.
Click on the image to enhance it:
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/ya-cant-always-get-what-ya-want
It’s about time we figure out who the DBA’s are at the Hawaiian DOH. The DBA’s, or Database Administrators, are the people that control edits of indexes (which appear to have happened in this case) or anything else pertaining to these databases. DBA’s are the keepers of the keys to the castle. These DBA’s are probably being kept on VERY short leashes or being intimidated. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Interesting audio on the BC controversy courtesy of Noquarter.com.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/01/26/oops-abercrombie-rumor/
Good Lord. A retraction: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/
The fact that we have a president that would just simply allow this garbage to carry on. It doesn’t matter his reason, it does not look good on him and he does not look cool because of it.
It’s ridiculous.
Heh. I wonder if Mike Evans woke up and found a horse’s head in his bed.
That or Obama called Evans, himself, and said “I am going to cut both your legs off and your *, too, if you do not retract that story, pronto.”
I agree, Obama does not look cool (and neither do the clowns named Abercrombie and Evans).
Those who believe Obama is saving his birth certificate to triumphantly spring on his enemies in the next campaign aren’t thinking it through. If he does that he will look smaller than ever and it could backfire big time. I can just imagine the campaign ads and viral Youtube videos about how, in order to gain a personal political advantage, Obama arrogantly toyed with the American people, insulted citizens with honest questions they have the right to ask, wasted the time of countless courts, made a mockery of the Constitution he swore an oath to uphold, and knowingly allowed an honorable military officer to be court martialed and imprisoned. Regardless of how this plays out, Obama will eventually lose.
Amen. I could not have said it better.
This is how I said it on my own blog:
[Dear Obots, please explain to me why it's NOT him, it's US?
Do you really respect a President, and leader, who could either:
A.) Clear this issue up by authorizing Hawaii to directly release "additional proof" (Abercrombie's words, not mine), but chooses not to because he thinks 'f*cking' with the people that he WANTED & ASKED to lead when he decided to run for president, benefits him somehow as a smarmy, disgusting politician (although, it does nothing for him as an example of a great leader)...
B.) Or continues to be a complete coward and just won't fess up to whatever is 'the problem' with his off-again-on-again vital records? And, instead, he has allowed this issue to fester and become some kind of symbol of racial injustice – NOT because it is – but, because that really, really works for him politically, too, in his hideous mind.
Is it A. or B?]
HOW MUCH YOU WANNA BET HE STILL HAS HIS INDONESIAN CITIZENSHIP?
Just thinking……
Bingo.
Hi texasdarlin’ Good to see you. You remain one of the true pioneers of the “Birther Movement.” Thanks for all of your hard work!
If he traveled on an Indonesian passport after age 18, I believe that would have been ratified his Indonesian citizenship.
My last post should have said:
If he traveled on an Indonesian passport after age 18, I believe that would have ratified his Indonesian citizenship.
I am will to bet the house that he still has Indonesian citizenship.
This is the one thing where he is lying and to the point that his little band of trolls are trying to throw people off the scent… with their obsfucation about the Indonesian Embassy in Washington denying that he was even adopted or had Indonesian citizenship….
After all, that response needs to come from the American Embassy in Indonesia… or vital records in Indonesia…. NOT in Washington.
Then there is the information on Ann Dunham’s passport application… it really does show that Soerbakah was adopted.
I don’t know Indonesian law, but in the research regarding my own family, I’m discovering that citizenship doesn’t just disappear. In most cases you need to formally renounce it. I have read that in Indonesia dual citizenship only lasts until 18 and then you have to pick a country…so I guess if he did use an Indonesian passport in college, it’s indication that he picked that citizenship…or else was using it illegally.
Kevin,
Wednesday, January 26, 2011
Video: Hollywood Reporter Mike Evans clarifies his comments that there is NO long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama…
ObamaRelease YourRecords on 7:25 AM
Damage Control: Hollywood Reporter Mike Evans, reaffirms(backtracks) that Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie told him, now says he did not speak with Abercrombie but spoke with his office. But still says there is NO long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama in the state of Hawaii. Mike Evans appeared on the Peter Boyles radio show to discuss his recent comments on the KQRS morning show. Once the audio is available I will update this post with it. Below is the audio of his KQRS appearance.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/update-hollywood-reporter-mike-evans.html
I think we are hot on the trail here. They are in panic mode trying to cover the tracks. Seems like we’re starting to develop a pattern of people accidentally speaking the truth, then being instructed to backtrack on their statements.
Also, Kevin, this is SCARY! Have you experienced attacks from these:
Wednesday, January 26, 2011
Exposed: Meet the two vile Obots Bill Bryan AKA PJ Foggy of the Fogbow forum and Justin of the Politijab forum, Got Hammer & Sickle!?
ObamaRelease YourRecords on 1:50 AM
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/
Until SCOTUS Defines NBC
Was Obama born in Kenya? No!
His father was a Kenyan, though!
Even Fight the Smears says so.
Is he eligible to be President? I don’t know.
(And neither will anyone else) until SCOTUS defines NBC.
Obama released his COLB
As proof of his birth in Hawaii.
To determine his eligibility,
I guess we’ll have to wait and see
Until SCOTUS defines NBC.
Axlerod, Gibbs and Daily Kos
Use press releases and internet posts
To ridicule “birthers” as nuts and jokes.
But it’s all no more than keyboard strokes,
Until SCOTUS defines NBC.
Documents, transcripts, and records under seal.
What is it that he won’t reveal?
To transparency promised, I appeal.
Still, we won’t fully know the deal,
Until SCOTUS defines NBC.
What is an NBC you ask?
I challenge SCOTUS to that task.
A tin-foil hat or Usurper’s mask?
No decisions made without the facts
Or until SCOTUS defines NBC.
Possibility: Through obfuscation, ridicule and with help from LSM, Obama manages to keep any records of his past ( including birth, school, law school, passports, Selective Service, IL state senate, etc.) from being released. By playing out the clock to 2012, Obama will play the legal card if it is discovered that he is ineligible, claiming that a legal precedent has been established by his serving one term already as President.
It is one man’s opinion that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen as the Constitution requires only the President to be. Therefore he is ineligible to hold the office and should be removed.
Thinking out loud–does the fact that several Supreme Court Justices didn’t show up at the SOTU have anything to do with Obama’s eligibility questions?
Did we ever find out why those Justices didn’t show up–in their own words? As far as I know it was all speculation. Anyone know how we can find out if there are any eligibility issues on the SCOTUS docket?
It is my understanding that 0bama, Barry, whatever his name is, can no longer practice law in Illinois; neither can Michelle.
Kevin, what have you heard about this? I have heard that perhaps he lied about having used another name.
I’ve looked into that, and the other names are of no consequence if he didn’t use them for official business in Illinois. Both Michelle and Barack gave up their licenses voluntarily because they didn’t need them anymore.
Bambi may have put his license into inactive status once he was in elected office just because he didn’t want to deal with the requirements to keep it current but I suspect that Meechelle MaBelle had some ethical issues and surrendered hers rather than face misconduct issues. Who would go all the way through law school and work that hard to pass the bar and then just decide to surrender their license after only a few years?
Your moniker soooo makes me want the moniker: “Girl with a Pearl Necklace.”
Why has this only occurred to me just now?
Has anyone seen his daughters Birth Certificates?
Yahoo news is reporting that Hawaii lawmakers want Obama’s birth certificate released.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110127/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate_1