Hillary Clinton
Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Replace Joe Biden as VP on the 2012 Ticket
I’m debating whether or not to make this a sticky post — and keep it up here permanently through 2012 – because nearly every day someone in the solipsistic media lazily posits “Will Hillary Clinton replace Joe Biden as VP?”.
The answer is no — no, Hillary Clinton will not run as Obama’s VP.
The reason is simple — because Hillary Clinton would be a fool to set herself up as a scapegoat for Obama’s 2012 loss, and Hillary Clinton is no fool.
The caveat is this — the only way Hillary Clinton would ever even consider running as VP in 2012 is if she was assured beyond any shadow of doubt that Obama would win; if there is even a 5% chance that Obama would lose, Hillary would want nothing at all to do with the ticket because she would not want to be blamed for the loss.
The ultimate reality remains — if there WAS a guarantee that Obama would win, the Left would neither want (nor need) Hillary Clinton on the ticket because the Left knows Hillary would purge Obama acolytes from the Party the first chance she had to do so…and why would the power-hungry Leftists willingly choose to position the woman they deliberately shunted to the side in 2008 to inherit the Party in 2016 (when they know full well she’d enact vengeance upon everyone who took the nomination away from her in 2008)?
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Chelsea Clinton Remembers 1992 Campaign with “My Dad for President” Essay
Chelsea Clinton was asked to pen a remembrance of her father’s 1992 campaign — which kicked off in October 1991, 20 years ago this month — and she authored this essay, “My Dad for President” as part of that commemoration.
The 1992 Clinton presidential campaign was actually the first presidential campaign I ever took part in, but it wasn’t to help Bill Clinton or the Democrats…it was to help First Lady of Arkansas Hillary Clinton become the First Lady of the United States…so she could take the first steps towards becoming President Clinton herself.
I was 15 years old at the time, in a Catholic high school in the suburbs of Cleveland, with Brandon Walsh (decidedly not Dylan McKay) sideburns and a respect for Hillary Clinton earned my freshman year, a full year before most of the country had ever heard of her, when I researched Hillary’s work as Arkansas’ First Lady for a debate in Ms. Habrat’s speech class. Oddly enough, I also researched Tipper Gore for the same class, but a different debate — that one on music censorship. I found Tipper to be, largely, an irrational nut and think the same to this day.
Hillary Clinton, however, intrigued me for being a woman people forever accused of being behind all sorts of ridiculous things and seemingly having magical powers with which to thwart her enemies. When the Clintons emerged on the national scene, and both the Left and Right started maligning her, I followed her exploits with even greater interest.
In life, I’ve always had a natural affinity for people who not only take punches well, but punch back even harder. I can’t stand wimps. I don’t like people who are forever too afraid to fight and have no interest in ever supporting anyone who I don’t trust to do what she or he thinks is best no matter what the establishment wants her or him to do instead.
I remember the 1992 campaign because both of my grandmothers were thrilled to see Hillary on the national stage, and cheered every time she took a stage and socked it to her critics. Both grandmas hoped they’d live to see Hillary as president herself, but both died before Hillary announced her 2008 campaign.
The night the Clintons won in 1992, and emerged from the statehouse in Arkansas for Bill Clinton to make his acceptance speech, my grandmothers and I all promised together we’d do everything we could to help Hillary Clinton win the White House herself in the future. Since I was all that was left of that pact in 2008, I tried to do everything I’d imagine my grandmothers would have done, and then some, to elect Hillary Clinton.
HillBuzz.org was started as a Hillary Clinton campaign site inspired a little by the round-robin telephone trees and Ladies’ Guild newsletters my grandmothers relied on in their time to communicate with like-minded people and work towards goals, like electing favored candidates to office. Though they could have never imagined something like a website existing to help Hillary, I hope they would have enjoyed the site my friends and I created for the campaign…and that I continued, and evolved, with friends old and new in the years since.
It still kills me a little every day that I couldn’t think up the magic strategy that would have defeated Obama in the primaries. I feel I failed my grandmothers because I didn’t save the day and win the nomination for our HRC.
I know Hillary Derangement Syndrome runs strong in a lot of you who read this site now, and I learned long ago that I am never going to convince anyone to change their firmly established perceptions of this woman. My boyfriend Justin, in fact, was raised to hate Hillary Clinton (though he can never clearly tell me why) and his parents honest-to-goodness believe Hillary stole a “heart attack ray” from NASA and uses it on her enemies (like Tim Russert, whom Justin’s father, a veterinarian, seriously believes Hillary murdered during the 2008 presidential campaign. He also thinks Hillary murdered someone he calls “Vince Vaughn”, so you can imagine why I have never deigned to argue with this man or challenge his perception of HRC).
There are ENORMOUS lessons for conservatives to learn from what the Obama campaign did to Hillary Clinton and her supporters in 2008, but in the three years and change I’ve been writing HillBuzz.org, I have never been able to convince Republicans to put their Hillary hate to the side long enough to see that everything the Left did to Hillary in the primaries was a dry run for what the Left will do to the Republican nominee in 2012.
John McCain, for whatever reason, didn’t really want to be president and never truly challenged Obama. McCain was the “it’s his turn” nominee, and ran a lackluster, meandering campaign that he actually suspended at one point and talked about just giving up. The only thing this man did right, in fact, was introducing Governor Sarah Palin to the national stage and launching her on a path to become the first female President herself.
It still hurts my heart that Hillary Clinton will never be president, but I see in retrospect her year to run was actually in 2004. She could have been the nominee, if she hadn’t listened to the Democrat establishment that told her to wait her turn and that “2008 would be her year”. I have it on very good authority that Ted Kennedy himself told Hillary that, and she foolishly believed him, being a good and loyal Democrat who decided to respect the establishment’s wishes and postpone her own ambitions so John Kerry could run the establishment-approved campaign in 2004…while the establishment geared up to backstab Hillary Clinton the next election by deciding, as early as 2004, that Barack Obama would be the 2008 nominee. The Democrat Party hates women, but knows it needs blacks to keep blindly voting Democrat, so having the first black president was always more important than running a candidate who would have made an excellent president.
During the 2008 campaign, I saw just how vile the Democrat Party really is. In truth, I’d always been uncomfortable being part of a Party that relied to heavily on union thuggery and that worked so hard to keep black people and Hispanics so poor and dependent on government handouts so they would keep blindly voting Democrat forever. I also hated the identity politics that drives the Democrat Party, and the corruption endemic to every major city that’s under complete Democrat control.
I would have probably become a Republican 20 years sooner if it wasn’t for the Clintons, because while Bill and Hillary Clinton were the heads of the Party, at least I felt the Left was kept somewhat at bay and such an entity as a conservative Democrat could actually exist. I learned my lesson at around 5pm or so on May 31st, 2008 when the Democrat Rules & Bylaws Committee actually stole Delegates from Hillary Clinton and awarded them to Obama, to secure the nomination for him.
I was there, in DC, when the actual decision came down. It was pouring rain that day. I will never forget a slight, bespeckled, Asian woman in a pink rain coat with a Hello Kitty umbrella who stood outside the hotel the RBC was meeting in holding up a sign that read “Count every vote, every vote counts!”. The rain had warped the letters and the paper was falling to shreds, but there she stood, crying because it was so clear to her the fix was in and the Party had decided on Obama no matter what the voters wanted.
That was it for me in terms of the Democrat Party. I will never in my life vote Democrat again, and I hope in some small way I can use my life to help metaphorically burn the Democrat Party to the ground for so embracing voter fraud, thuggery, Alinsky Methods, and everything else the Left employs to glorify Obama and keep him in power.
I came out as gay during the 2008 campaign because the Clinton campaign here in Chicago needed someone to fundraise and recruit volunteers in Boystown. I soon found myself on TV and the radio and doing interviews with the media. It was the scariest thing I’d ever done, and I was terrified there was no turning back ever, but I did it because Hillary Clinton needed it to be done and I couldn’t do it unless I came out. I got to meet a great many of Hillary’s friends here in Chicago, and got to know a few of them very well. They knew the sacrifices I made for the campaign and were a better support team than I could have ever dreamed I’d have in coming out. I got to know Chelsea Clinton a little by working several events with her and had the shock of my life one day in February when she actually called me on the telephone to thank me for organizing a small dollar fundraiser for her mother.
There were stretches when I’d get to speak to Hillary herself in person several times a week. My family pretty much disowned me and was embarrassed by me for coming out, and in talking with her Hillary learned this and actually tried to intervene to mend these fences for me. I was just a campaign worker in Chicago, with the little website my friends and I ran, running my little volunteer efforts here, and the woman who was in the fight of her life against Obama and the Left actually remembered what I was going through every time I’d see her and she’d take a moment to check in and encourage me to stay strong and to know I made the right choice in coming out.
I still get hatemail here at HB from people who say how much they hate Hillary Clinton and go on about how evil she is or how she killed “Vince Vaughn”. I forward those last ones to my boyfriend Justin with a note saying, “Tell your dad to stop writing me!”. I will always treasure the experiences I had on the 2008 campaign because a former First Lady of the United States, a former United States Senator, and the current Secretary of State is a person who showed me such incredible kindness right when I needed it most and who made sure I knew how much she appreciated what I went through in trying to help her campaign.
So, the Clintons will always mean something to me on a very personal level. When Justin is mad at me and wants to be a jerk, or just wants to get my goat because he’s still at that point in his 20s when he thinks everything he does is HILARIOUS, he’ll forward me a picture of Hillary looking terrible somewhere while traveling around the world and attach a message of “Your gal’s not looking so hot these days”. I just ignore him, because his Hillary Derangement Syndrome will never allow him to take a step back and appreciate how much Hillary’s personal kindness to me will always mean, no matter what he, his parents, or anyone in conservative ranks says about her.
On days when I was so sick I almost couldn’t get out of bed or have felt so attacked and defeated I just didn’t want to live anymore, I swear I thought about Hillary Clinton standing in the rain in Pittsburgh, PA back in 2008…refusing to cancel a campaign rally…and delivering an electrifying speech to the crowd as lightning flashed above her head and I marveled at her tenacity from the sidelines.
I never thought another person on Earth would inspire me like this, but then emerged Governor Sarah Palin who has the same tenacity and determination, even if she’s in a different party and is on a mission to take down the establishment in a way Hillary Clinton never did.
It’s actually been really hard for me to come to terms with this, but I had to accept a long time ago that even though Hillary was betrayed by the Democrat establishment (in both 2004 and 2008), it’s just not who she is to bring these people down. Maybe that comes with being a former First Lady, or from having been in the Senate and lived in Washington for too long. It was never in her 2008 campaign to take down the establishment…but at the time, I didn’t even know back then this is what America needed to do to survive.
I know in comments people will rehash all the old anti-Hillary, hateful remarks that I’ve seen and responded to thousands of times at this point. I also know I’ll be asked “how can you support Palin now after being such a strong Hillary supporter”. I hope regular readers will answer this stuff for me because I just don’t have the strength to repeat myself on this again. Though, I will say that in 2008 the best choice for President was Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton, who would have never done to this country what Obama did because she would have never allowed the Left — or anyone alive — to dictate the course of her presidency.
The best choice for President in 2012 is Governor Sarah Palin, because I believe she has the same tenacity and fight inside her that Hillary Clinton did in 2008…but with the realization that the permanent political class needs to be fought tooth and nail, in a way that Hillary didn’t see clearly when she was in a position to have done so herself.
I grew up knowing the strongest fighters and the best Americans around me were the moms, grandmothers, and aunts I knew back in Cleveland who took care of me and all of my friends and who always rose to the challenge when they needed to…when too often the men that I knew in life slinked off to play golf or go on vacation when the going got tough.
I think America’s going to be saved by moms, grandmothers, and aunts in 2012. I think a lot of these women — and the men who will stand with them — were Hillary voters in 2008 who will back Governor Palin in next year’s election. From Hillary to Sarah so many of us will go, with many never imagining in a million years they’d make a transition like this.
It’s sure been a strange journey for me, and for everyone from the Team Hillary days who’ve continued with me here on HillBuzz.org for all these years.
This post ended up being much less of a nostalgic look back at the 1992 campaign than Chelsea’s reminiscence that started it…but while I’ll never forget the past and will always cherish its part in me, I can’t help but set my sights on the future and the people I know are best to lead America through the tough times ahead.
The 45th President of the United States will be a woman, but she won’t be named Clinton and despite the personal feelings I have for the Clintons, I have to say yet again that the next president has to be — HAS TO BE — someone who is willing to absolutely destroy both the Left and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment if America is to recover from what Obama has done to the nation.
The only person alive who can do this is Sarah Palin.
I seriously pray every day she answers this call. I know if my grandmothers were still here they’d be praying the same thing, as are millions of us Hillary ’08 vets who are willing to get back into the trenches again and fight Obama and his minions under Palin’s banner this time.
About Dick Morris’ latest theory on Obama pulling an LBJ-meets-Grover Cleveland gambit
Dick Morris has been making the rounds with his latest theory that Barack Obama will pull an LBJ and not seek re-election next year (knowing he is certain to lose), so that he can actually come back to run for the presidency again in 2016 or 2020, Grover Cleveland-style.
I don’t have time to give this a lengthy treatment, but maybe it doesn’t even need one to express how ridiculous this concept is.
The jury’s still out on which part of Obama’s ego will prevail regarding 2012; will it be the side that’s horrified at the thought of losing the election (in which case he’ll just not run again) or the part of him that is so in love with the trappings of office that he can’t bear to step aside? If it’s the latter, he’ll no doubt wait until the last possible moment to pull out of the race, so the Democrats will be screwed royally and unable to put forward a candidate for 2012 (and stop fantasizing about Hillary Clinton being the 2012 nominee, because she knows a Democrat won’t win after the mess Obama has made and she will not allow herself to be used as a sacrifice so that Democrats immediately after her loss can say, “It’s all Hillary’s fault! We would have won if Obama was still on the ticket! Let’s run Obama again in 2016 and give him another chance!”).
The Democrat Party has a real come to Jesus moment ahead of it, which is amusing since so many on the Left hate Christianity with a passion and put all their faith in the false god-with-a-decidedly-small-g that is Obama. Either the party completely purges itself of Obama and his acolytes after the 2012 election and marginalizes the Left to a role of non-influence in the party, or Democrats are toast for the foreseeable future.
The Obama presidency has redefined what it means to be a Democrat, and MILLIONS of former Democrats — such as myself — want nothing to ever again do with the party because of the deliberate lurch to the Left the Democrat Party took in 2008 when it cast aside Hillary Clinton and all the moderate/conservative Democrats who supported her in favor of the Left’s darling Obama.
If Obama doesn’t seek a second term and instead tries to maintain control of the Democrat Party to preserve an opportunity to return in 2016 or 2020 as the standard-bearer again, then Democrats will never have an opportunity to correct the way Independents now see Democrats.
If the Party is to survive, it needs to de-Obamafy, and quickly…and ensure that everyone associated with Obama’s rise to power never again plays a visible role in the Democrat Party.
Personally, though I still don’t know whether Obama will run for a second term, I can’t imagine him WANTING another term.
I also can’t picture him ever attempting a run for the White House again, even if the Democrat Party was foolish enough to run him in 2016.
Obama never wanted to be President…he’s always wanted to be an ex-president, with all the trappings, wealth, and fame that come with that. He wanted a place in the history books and a life dedicated to giving speeches, holding book signings, and traveling the world in the lap of luxury. Running for President was a means to this end.
Why on Earth would he ever want to leave the plush retirement the post-presidency affords to once again be responsible for actually doing things on a daily basis in the White House?
Besides, it does not take much imagination to realize Obama’s breathlessly awaiting his chance to usurp Jimmy Carter as the former US President who travels the world criticizing America, hating Israel, and doing his very best to embarrass Americans and promote Islam. That’s been his goal all along, to achieve a lifetime appointment on the national stage as America’s loudest critic.
In 2013, after he leaves the White House, if he plans on running for anything ever again it will be UN Secretary General, where he’ll happily condemn the United States while speaking for this “world body”.
Dick Morris is a colorful and interesting man who must see this as well, but just wants the attention garnered from using LBJ and Grover Cleveland in the same sentence and causing a little stir the way he has been this week.
Three Reasons Hillary Clinton Will Never Be Barack Obama’s VP in 2012 — and an Implication for President Palin in 2016
HillBuzz.org was originally conceived as a Hillary Clinton 2008 presidential campaign supporters’ site. Though our focus has shifted since then, and everyone involved with HB has left the Democrat Party for good at this point, HillBuzz Founder and Editor-in-Chief Kevin DuJan still follows Hillary Clinton’s career with great interest and appreciates her serving the country as the sole grown up in the entire Obama administration. Here’s Kevin’s Top Three Reasons Hillary Clinton Will Never Be Barack Obama’s VP in 2012 (So Stop Fantasizing About It):
Clearly, S.E. Cupp needs a primer on how the Race Industry works in America, because there’s no way Hillary Clinton could challenge Obama for the 2012 election
Here’s a column by S.E. Cupp that makes me wonder if she pays any attention at all to the Race Industry in America. Cupp is usually so smart about most things, so I also wonder if this is part of some strategy on the right to try to encourage more dissatisfaction with Obama by pushing the pipedream that Hillary Clinton could really challenge him for the 2012 presidential nomination.
To put it simply, Clinton can’t challenge Obama because he is a sitting black president, and Clinton challenging a sitting black president would make her public enemy number one in the black community.
Obama and his surrogates, like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Henry Gates, and most especially his own wife Michelle, would 24/7 brand Hillary the most racist of all racists for daring to — and quote me, because this is the exact verbiage these surrogates would use — “take this away from the black man”.
Perhaps Cupp’s real intent is to try to goad Hillary into committing political suicide, because blacks would never forgive any Democrat who challenged Obama for the 2012 nomination. Just think about the scenarios that flow naturally out of this:
(1) Obama remains the Democrats’ nominee, but goes on to lose the general election. Blacks would say that Obama lost because Hillary weakened and distracted him — so it’s all her fault the presidency was “taken away from the black man”.
(2) Obama loses the Democrats’ nomination to Hillary, and Hillary then loses the presidency. Blacks will raise Hades for the next four years demanding Obama for the 2016 nominee, since “Hillary stole it from him in 2012″ and then lost. Not only would Hillary be blamed for losing the presidency, but she’d have to watch the DNC remain in Obama’s hands another four years, with him trying to be a second Grover Cleveland.
(3) Hillary takes the nomination from Obama and then somehow manages to win the general election, with the black voters Democrats depend on openly hating her and refusing to vote on election day. Folks, there is just no way for Hillary Clinton to become president if blacks are not supporting her, and they won’t support her if they believe (or are encouraged to think by Obama surrogates) that Hillary “stole” anything from Obama.
Even if Obama pulls an LBJ and decides not to run in 2012 (an increasingly likely scenario), blacks will be so upset Obama’s not on the ticket that they’ll likely sit 2012 out, to punish the party for Obama’s absence. Even if he tells blacks directly that he decided not to run for another term, the Race Industry will whisper it’s all a conspiracy to take the presidency away from Obama.
The Race Industry always needs a new conspiracy to run on, so Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Henry Gates, and the rest have something to do with their lives. When the Obamas are out of the White House, they too will actively participate in these race-baiting shenanigans so they never have to surrender the life of luxury they’ve become so accustomed to.
S.E. Cupp is a terrific writer and right more often then she’s wrong, but clearly she has no idea how the Race Industry operates if she honestly believes in any of this “Hillary 2012″ wishcasting.
Unless, of course, this is just a strategy in conservative circles to further encourage the ongoing Democrat Civil War and make more Democrats feel very “We should have picked Hillary!” as the 2012 election revs up.
Are conservatives really this blind to how the Race Industry actually works and how much Democrats are held hostage by these goon squads?
Your Daily Schadenfreude: Arianna Hufflepuff Edition
Do you remember how much both AOL and The Huffington Post pushed Obama in 2008?
Arianna Hufflepuff, a woman (other than Liza Minelli or Fran Drescher) so frighteningly oblivious she (allegedly) had no idea she was married to a gay man for several years, was one of Obama’s loudest and most shrill cheerleaders in both the Democrat primaries and the general election.
She joined Oprah, the Charybdis of Lake Michigan, in anointing Obama as “The One”, and thus inextricably tied her lot to him.
The Huffington Post, an experimental publication produced largely from the mimeographed droppings of circus animals, has consistently been one of the first online organizations to call anyone disagreeing with Obama a damn, dirty RAAACIST! It is a better coifed, slightly more appealing, version of Soros minions The Daily Kos or Democratic Underground.
AOL decided to join in all this Obama-pushing fun, delusionally believing “The Golden Age of Hope and Change” would last a thousand years, at least, and the Fool-Aid so many drenched themselves in back in 2008 would never, ever expire.
So, AOL bought HuffPo for millions and millions of dollars. That made Arianna very happy, and AOL stockholders mighty sad.
Thanks to the Obamaconomy, the AOL/HuffPo painted chimera is worth approximately enough for two tickets to “Avenue Q”, in the upper balcony, of the Playhouse Square production, in Cleveland. Matinee only, of course.
AOL lost $2 billion in value in just ONE YEAR of Obama’s catastrophic presidency.
Not even Arianna’s erstwhile gay ex-husband wants anything to do with her, HuffPo, or AOL. Everyone involved in this deal is toxic.
It is, of course, not the nicest thing in the world to take great delight in seeing almost everyone who aggressively backed Obama in 2008 get their just desserts in 2011, but like the song above says…there sure is an effective German word for it.
You do speak German, Arianna, don’t you?
5 Ways Mitt Romney Sets the Stage for Hillary Clinton in 2016
Obama’s presidency is lost, with no hope of repeating the hopeychange phenomenon that caused Independents to vote for him in 2008 (while keeping millions of conservative voters at home, either because they didn’t feel McCain was conservative enough and they needed “to teach someone a lesson about something” or because they fell victim to the media’s prompting that they needed to prove how not-racist they were…and the only way to do that was to not vote against “the historic and unprecedented first black president”…so they sat their sorry butts home on their couches and drank a lot of Pepsi, allowing everything that’s happened the last three years under Obama to transpire).
The media has been aggressively pushing Mittens “Mood Ring” Romney for the GOP’s 2012 nomination, even more aggressively than the Left pushed for John McCain to be the 2008 GOP nominee (or for Bob Dole to be the GOP’s pick in 1996). While it’s clear the media works tirelessly to select the Republican it feels will most likely lose to the Democrat in every major election, it’s fascinating to watch the nonstop push for Romney considering how likely it is Obama will lose to whomever Republicans nominate to run against him.
The question then becomes, “Why does the media want Mittens so badly, when even Mittens will most likely beat Obama?”.
Simple.
Democrats are already looking beyond the Obama 2012 loss…and are trying to set the stage for Republicans’ defeat in 2016, when one-term Mittens would face Hillary Clinton in the next “historic election”.
Here are five ways Democrats are thinking ahead, past 2012, to setup a scenario for Hillary Clinton to be president in 2016.
