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Another Day, Another Horror Story from Dubai

Posted on March 30, 2010 by HillBuzz // Hillbuzz

Here’s another story of Westerners being jailed in Dubai for “outraging local standards of decency”.

The Religion of Peace takes personal insults very seriously, and almost everything on Earth is insulting to Islam.

In this particular instance, a 56 year old man has been prohibited from leaving Dubai since August of 2009 because an 18 year old Iraqi teenager accused him of giving him “the finger”.

Making a rude gesture is an offense to Islam, and as such is punishable for six months in prison.

The 56 year old British man, in our opinion, is a fool for ever going to Dubai.  It would be interesting to start monitoring all the Westerners, especially British people, who find themselves prisoners in the United Arab Emirates for kissing, drinking alcohol, “making rude gestures”, or otherwise offending Islam.

Typically, we only hear about this when we’re on Drudge and they run an item like this in the headlines, but we wonder what we’re missing by not actively researching this.

We’ve told you before the it’s Robby’s sister Ann-Louise’s dream to someday live in Dubai, because she thinks it’s a futuristic paradise there.

What she doesn’t realize is how dystopian “futures” can be.

Particularly where Islam is involved.

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  • Titus2woman says:
    2010/03/30 at 1:44 am  Titus2woman(Quote)

    [[almost everything on Earth is insulting to Islam.]]

    And there you have it.

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    • JAC says:
      2010/03/30 at 10:02 am  JAC(Quote)

      I apologize that this is not subject material (in a way maybe it is).
      I ran into something last night on canadafreepress.com. The president of Germany and “chancellor” Hitler signed the “enabling act” which was the beginnings of Hilter’s rise to power and the control of the German people. The parallels between barry’s health scare bill and the enabling act are quite astounding. And what date did the German president sign his bill/act. You guessed it, March 23, 1933. 77 years later, barry signs this monstrosity on the exact same date. I know that numerology is very important to secret society groups, 7 is an important number for some reason and I feel that March 23rd was a date chosen for some reason and planned accordingly.

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      • magdalena says:
        2010/03/30 at 4:12 pm  magdalena(Quote)

        This started the same day:

        The report goes on to say, “Different steps in that persecution, such as the campaign for the suppression of denominational and youth organizations, the campaign against denominational schools, the defamation campaign against the clergy, started on the same day in the whole area of the Reich … and were supported by the entire regimented press, by Nazi Party meetings, by traveling party speakers.”

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    • Cat says:
      2010/03/30 at 2:27 pm  Cat(Quote)

      The Religion of Perpetual Outrage

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  • ozzieaussie says:
    2010/03/30 at 2:24 am  ozzieaussie(Quote)

    There are other sites dedicated to the subject. I look at a few of them. I hardly go near Drudge

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    • LISAZ says:
      2010/03/30 at 6:44 am  LISAZ(Quote)

      LOVE Drudge! I dash to cnn.com on occasion to see if any celebrities have died … then on to drudge to see if there is anything going on that is maybe possibly does not shed favorable light on the Overlord. I’m so glad for Drudge! If it wasn’t for that one guy, I’m not sure any of us would have unfettered access to real news!

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    • Bev says:
      2010/03/30 at 7:05 am  Bev(Quote)

      Drudge is a GREAT website. I trust them and they have the quickest news. The White House tried to trick their staffs into not going there by saying they had viruses (they don’t) so for that reason alone I know it’s trustworthy…lol. I go there as much as I go here.

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      • Bijou says:
        2010/03/30 at 9:09 am  Bijou(Quote)

        I love Drudge, too.
        It’s no accident that he’s had over 8 BILLION hits in the past year.
        Go, Matt!

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      • FR says:
        2010/03/31 at 9:32 am  FR(Quote)

        Drudge is my home page, has been for years

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    • Mary Quite-Contrary says:
      2010/03/30 at 11:57 am  Mary Quite-Contrary(Quote)

      Ozzie…Matt Drudge is da Bomb!!! Remember, the US government wanted to ‘prevent’ their workforce from visiting his page due to all the viruses (ie., honest reporting) they would be exposed to.

      Drudge also selects the most gawd awful, hidious, unflattering photos of everyone from Pelosi thru Dear Leader (Drudge was credited with the ‘Barky looking for the doorknob on the window to the Oval Office’ shot early on). That alone makes me want to give him several hits a day :)

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      • ozzieaussie says:
        2010/03/30 at 3:12 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

        I saw that information too. However, I find the site to be confusing.

        On the subject of Islam and what they are up to I go to at least 2 other sites. They have all the news.

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    • nervygirl says:
      2010/03/30 at 12:46 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

      The ultimate site to go to is Atlas Shrugs.
      http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

      Pamela Gellar is a warrior against the evils of Islam. And Islam is now in the White House.
      Did you know that there are terror camps in the USA right NOW?
      Did you know there are children in the USA who are being raped by these animals?
      Did you know that honor killings are happening in the USA right NOW?

      Pamela exposes it all, on a daily basis.

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    • Cat says:
      2010/03/30 at 1:43 pm  Cat(Quote)

      I love Drudge. That’s the first site I go to for headline news.

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  • Old One says:
    2010/03/30 at 4:26 am  Old One(Quote)

    Who in their right mind would go to Dubai for ny reson after theflow of lunatic arrests of westerners.
    Reports on the arrest so another Brit reminds of the wisdom of an elderly professor I had for a sophmore course on the History of the Americas in the early 196os and a refugee from Russia’s marxism and anti-semitism One of the professors litanies describing the behaviors and responses of Brits and the British government was that they both would submit to the most degrading of treatments and risk if there was a prospect of monetary gain. The greater the possible gain the more they would grovel.

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  • buffalony says:
    2010/03/30 at 4:49 am  buffalony(Quote)

    Dubai, Keep arresting Westerners. That is so helpful for your econcoy, to arrest tourists. I guess they don’t want their new city to succeed.

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  • YTZ4Me says:
    2010/03/30 at 5:09 am  YTZ4Me(Quote)

    My pet Jawa is a good one.
    I would never travel to Dubai. I had a fleeting interest a few years ago, but not now.

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    • ozzieaussie says:
      2010/03/30 at 3:14 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

      that is one of the sites that I visit on a regular basis.

      They played a role in the arrest of those two American women who were wanting to be jihadis.

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  • Lola LB says:
    2010/03/30 at 7:03 am  Lola LB(Quote)

    I’ll look at pictures from Dubai, thank you very much. I’ll spend my (imaginary) travel money elsewhere.

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  • Bev says:
    2010/03/30 at 7:03 am  Bev(Quote)

    As a woman she would not be allowed to go anywhere without a male escort. Women just can’t walk down the street in a Muslim country. Remind her of the woman who was with a group of businessmen and was put in jail for drinking a cup of coffee with her business colleagues in public. Most of the places are “men only”. Even though they were conducting business it didn’t matter. It’s forbidden there.

    I wouldn’t step foot in a Muslim country if it were the last place on earth. They treat women so horribly.

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    • nervygirl says:
      2010/03/30 at 12:47 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

      You are a smart woman. My husband is doing work in Kuwait right now, and he wanted me to come over there, and I said, “Hell NO!”

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  • micheleleeann says:
    2010/03/30 at 7:48 am  micheleleeann(Quote)

    I guess what burns me up about incidents like this is that if that same Iraqui student who accused this Brit of giving him the finger came to America and broke one of our laws, nothing would happen to him. He would be treated like a prince and given great treatment, jail or not. And we would pay for it…

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  • qr4j says:
    2010/03/30 at 8:05 am  qr4j(Quote)

    Yeah . . . I wouldn’t travel to any Muslim nation these days. India sounds like it could be a fun place to visit, but it is not exclusively Muslim.

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    • ecoast says:
      2010/03/30 at 1:58 pm  ecoast(Quote)

      India is 85% Hndu, 10% Muslim and 4% Christian. One of the most liberal, westernized countries. All business places (and even taxi drivers) speak English. Fun and exotic place.

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      • Cat says:
        2010/03/30 at 2:29 pm  Cat(Quote)

        It would be interesting. However, every person I know of who went got dysentery.

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    • ozzieaussie says:
      2010/03/30 at 3:15 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

      I would not even go to India….

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  • JKR says:
    2010/03/30 at 8:29 am  JKR(Quote)

    What are you missing? Honey, you were campaigning for the DNC and a bunch of us were reading sites like http://www.jihadwatch or http://www.memritv.org.

    I rarely visit them or others like them anymore. I was so saturated with stories that they all sort of blur together.

    Needless to say that although it would be interesting to travel to the Middle East, and if I had the opportunity under different current world circumstances, I would in a heartbeat…the reality is, it’s just too risky on multiple levels to do so.

    Because it doesn’t matter if you REALLY violated a law, all it would take is for someone to accuse you of doing so and you would be screwed.

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    • JKR says:
      2010/03/30 at 8:31 am  JKR(Quote)

      Sorry, need more coffee. http://www.jihadwatch.org

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      • JKR says:
        2010/03/30 at 8:32 am  JKR(Quote)

        Btw, the links on that website are legion.

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  • Opus #6 says:
    2010/03/30 at 8:48 am  Opus #6(Quote)

    Running afoul of the religious police over there sounds hazardous. And how is a westerner to know all the rules. As a woman, especially, I have no interest in going there and placing myself at the mercy of the Islamic system.

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  • Lwelsh says:
    2010/03/30 at 9:20 am  Lwelsh(Quote)

    I find that reading littlegreenfootballs and jihadwatch is so depressing. Islam, if it ever was a religion, is now so perverted and corrupt that it is the now the entire lifestyle of murderers and haters and is more like the behavior of desert bandits than anything else.

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    • Bev says:
      2010/03/30 at 10:28 am  Bev(Quote)

      I don’t agree with that. I have known some Muslim people who were very peaceful and kind. I saw their reaction to 9/11 was no different than ours. I knew a Jordanian who loves the U.S. Their religion is as old as ours. Unfortunately, there are some who are extreme and warped. It is their TOLERANCE of terrorist activity that gets me angry. If they had rejected that behavior it would have made things very different. But a lot of them will tell you they are just as afraid of the terrorists as we are.

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      • nervygirl says:
        2010/03/30 at 12:52 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

        Sorry, Bev, but their religion is NOT as old as ours, and it was created by a war general who married a six year old.
        The religion was started by a pedophile.
        You need to read a little more on the subject. Visit this site:
        http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

        Oh, and those Muslims that you say are so kind and peaceful? If they had their way, they would slit your throat in a heartbeat.
        Wake up.

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      • Cat says:
        2010/03/30 at 1:44 pm  Cat(Quote)

        Their religion was founded by a whacked out desert warlord, murderer and pedophile in the 7th century. Good Lord, Bev, have you even read the Koran?

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      • Lwelsh says:
        2010/03/30 at 2:01 pm  Lwelsh(Quote)

        Sure there are good people of Muslim extraction but they are good not because of Islam but because they are decent people.

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        • Cat says:
          2010/03/30 at 2:05 pm  Cat(Quote)

          Exactly. They’re not good because of Islam, they’re good IN SPITE of Islam.

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      • nervygirl says:
        2010/03/30 at 2:08 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

        This is what Islam looks like. An article about the Beslan massacre of children. Look at the photos, and weep.

        THIS IS ISLAM. Don’t kid yourself.

        http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/muslim-attack-on-kindergarten-thwarted-in-azerbaijan.html

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      • ozzieaussie says:
        2010/03/30 at 3:18 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

        Bev,

        wrong. Their “religion” is not as old as Christianity….or Judaism… It began in the 7th century by the fake prophet Mohammed.

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        • CatieR says:
          2010/03/30 at 4:01 pm  CatieR(Quote)

          You could say it’s as old as Christianity because it is the antithesis of Christ’s teachings — and evil’s been around a very very long time.

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        • Cat says:
          2010/03/30 at 8:09 pm  Cat(Quote)

          We’re talking about the specific religion. It was founded in the 7th century.

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      • ozzieaussie says:
        2010/03/30 at 3:21 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

        I have also personally known some Muslims. Both men that I knew were from Iran and married to Christian women.

        These were men who did not seem to care too much about Islam.

        I love the Iranian people. I am sure that many of them would in a heartbeat cast off the shackles of Islam.

        If you want to know about what happens in an Islamic country there is nothing more soul destroying than what happens to the people in Iran.

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        • Cat says:
          2010/03/30 at 5:01 pm  Cat(Quote)

          Yes, I know of some Iranians (they like to call themselves Persian) who are very westernized and do not follow Islamic law at all. Many of them are agnostics or atheists, actually.

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      • Li'l ol' me says:
        2010/03/31 at 11:02 am  Li'l ol' me(Quote)

        TROLL ALERT

        Is this the same Bev who the other day wanted us to ignore “crap from before the campaign” about Barack Hussein Obama?

        http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/27/saturday-open-thread-march-27th-2010/

        The original poster did not say all Muslims you’ve met were bad.

        Bev, look at

        http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam

        and tell me Islam is not perverted and corrupt.

        You can make a lie a lot stronger by mixing in a little of the truth. This is different from Eeyoreism and concern trolling – this is an example of trying to mislead (unless this Bev is truly as confused and misinformed as she sounds and not deliberately using taqqiyah, lying in the service of Islam).

        I know nice Muslims myself, howEVER, to the extent they are against jihad, they are apostate Muslims. True Muslims who follow the Koran will slit your throat in a heartbeat, because that’s what the Koran tells them to do.

        Islam IS the problem.

        Muslims were rejoicing – see the video of celebrations in the Mideast- on 9/11. Jubilation in the streets.

        Islam has not been hijacked by bad people, it is a totalitarian political ideology wrapped around a cult of human sacrifice and Islam has hijacked the lives and minds of 1.2 billion people on the planet.

        We can’t even call it a religion. A religion, if you leave, they pray for you to come back. In Islam, they slit your throat.

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    • Cat says:
      2010/03/30 at 1:53 pm  Cat(Quote)

      LGF jumped the shark a long time ago. Johnson is a shill for liberals and Muslims.

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      • EZBurns says:
        2010/03/30 at 2:09 pm  EZBurns(Quote)

        The biggest difference between Islam and other religions is that reformation, questioning and open condemnation aren’t allowed.

        Note– the bombings in Moscow this week. Were are the Imam’s condemning the bombers?

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        • Cat says:
          2010/03/30 at 2:31 pm  Cat(Quote)

          Yes, I remember Pope Benedict saying that Islam can’t be reformed because they believe in a transcendent God who transcends reason and thinking. If Allah transcends reason, then unreasonableness is acceptable, hence Islam’s nuttiness. Also, the Koran is considered the direct word of God, and it cannot be taken in any other way but literally, unlike Scripture which is inspired by God, but written by men, and has a wealth of literal, metaphorical and allegorical meaning.

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        • JKR says:
          2010/03/30 at 2:45 pm  JKR(Quote)

          Can’t reform it, can’t leave it, have to just live it.

          If any religion desperately needed reforming, it’s Islam.

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        • ozzieaussie says:
          2010/03/30 at 3:23 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

          you get killed if you leave it… but sometimes you have to be caught first.

          Anyone who “insults” Islam ends up with a fatwah death penalty.

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        • Xana says:
          2010/03/31 at 4:05 pm  Xana(Quote)

          “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s and unto God the things which are God’s.”

          Christianity always saw a separation between sacred and secular power. Judaism likewise (because of a long history of persecution) knows the difference between sacred and secular power.

          Islam? No. Islam’s ideal is not a state where people are free to do God’s will, but a state that imposes God’s will on the populace (source: Bernard Lewis). How, then can there be freedom and tolerance?

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        • AuntieMadder says:
          2010/03/31 at 9:43 pm  AuntieMadder(Quote)

          You do NOT want reformation of Islam because the result would be more blood, more deaths, more slaves.

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      • JKR says:
        2010/03/30 at 2:39 pm  JKR(Quote)

        He’s gone over the deep end. It used to be a good place and now he’s very strange. I don’t go there anymore.

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        • ozzieaussie says:
          2010/03/30 at 3:25 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

          I stopped going there once he started up about Creationism.

          I am not into Creation theology, am more towards Evolution… but I have reconciled the two things… that is how I see Genesis chapter 1 is that it sets out the ages or epochs rather than literal 24 hours.

          I actually do think that evolution and Intelligent design should be taught together so that children can learn to think for themselves with regard to the issue. Excluding one explanation tends to create warped ideas.

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        • Xana says:
          2010/03/31 at 4:16 pm  Xana(Quote)

          Personally, I’m all for evolution (love the theory — biology doesn’t make sense to me without it), and I think Creationism is wrong (I also think the early church fathers focused on an allegorical, not literal, interpretation of the Creation story).

          BUT… I have met some very fine molecular biologists who ARE Creationists. And I once heard Richard Dawkins (that religion-is-child-abuse crank) actually thank Creationists for pointing out holes in evolutionary theory so that evo bio could address them.

          I’ve concluded that people who hate on Creationists must not be very well-grounded in evolutionary theory themselves, or they’d stop with the hate and trust the theory to win on its own merits.

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      • Lwelsh says:
        2010/03/30 at 3:36 pm  Lwelsh(Quote)

        I’ll admit it has been a while since I read LGF and it is too bad that it has degenerated from reporting press stories from around the world about the insanity that is Islam.

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        • TPN says:
          2010/03/30 at 6:50 pm  TPN(Quote)

          The LGF guy mostly just bashes conservatives anymore…He’s working under his new leftist slavemasters trying to gain thier adoration.

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        • Cat says:
          2010/03/30 at 11:57 pm  Cat(Quote)

          Well Charles Johnson was a leftie who woke up on 9/11, began blogging right of center, and lapsed back to the left again.

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      • Kate says:
        2010/03/31 at 10:54 am  Kate(Quote)

        Unfortunately, you’re correct about LGF. It used to be a great spot. But Charles started drifting towards the Left faster and faster. What’s really sad is that almost none of the posters who were active when I first joined are still there. I usually skip the front page altogether and go to the link page. LGF posters are very good at finding interesting articles and blogs and creating links to them.

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  • CindyM says:
    2010/03/30 at 9:44 am  CindyM(Quote)

    Don’t ask me how I know but they gave a trip to Dubai away the other day on The Price is Right. I was thinking, “Who’d want to go there?”

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    • KJMontana says:
      2010/03/30 at 11:03 am  KJMontana(Quote)

      Last fall “The Amazing Race” had 2 or 3 episodes in Dubai. I was shocked that the women on the race were allowed to walk around in tank tops.

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      • ozzieaussie says:
        2010/03/30 at 3:26 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

        Dubai is the least strict of those countries.

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      • salomezee says:
        2010/03/30 at 3:43 pm  salomezee(Quote)

        Yeah, Dubai (and Bahrain) are where all the Fundies go to party.

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  • SFGoth says:
    2010/03/30 at 9:47 am  SFGoth(Quote)

    I Jewish. I got no need to go to no Muslim country.

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    • Cat says:
      2010/03/30 at 2:02 pm  Cat(Quote)

      I woman. I got no need to go to no Muslim country.

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    • ozzieaussie says:
      2010/03/30 at 3:27 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

      and in Dubai they would take one look at you and put you in jail :)

      Have you been reading about what happened over there?

      All of those people involved in the “murder” of one man!! NOT

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  • Thomas Hooker says:
    2010/03/30 at 10:26 am  Thomas Hooker(Quote)

    I lived in Bahrain in the 90s and loved the people. We tried to be respectful of the local customs, but many of the Europeans went out of their way to flaunt European dress, etc.

    We visited Jordan and fell in love with it.

    Expectations vary considerably across the region depending on the local political situation.

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  • BB says:
    2010/03/30 at 10:29 am  BB(Quote)

    This is nothing more than a case of a Westerner coming to a foreign country without bothering to read up on the social and cultural dos and don’ts. For a Muslim nation, the UAE is EXTREMELY liberal, and it tends to pamper its Western tourists and expats, catering to their every whim – until, that is, someone breaks one of the social taboos.

    I spent three years living in Abu Dhabi (the Emirate, not the city), the daughter of an expat father. My mother was in no way hampered in her daily routines, needing no escort to leave the house or drive the car, coming and going as she liked; my sister and I (at the ages of 14 and 17) used to take the bus into the capital and roam the city’s malls on our own, unhindered and unharassed. We didn’t have to cover our hair or dress a certain way (though it was easier to respect the social rules and wear long sleeved shirts and long skirts, we would not be arrested for not doing so). There was virtually no crime, and the only obstacles we faced were dealing the humidity and trying to safely cross the main road of the capital. I am White, a born again Christian, and an American citizen, and never (even on 9/11 and the months that followed) did I feel anything by safe and happy, living in the UAE.

    When stories like this surface (like the one with the British couple having sex on the beach), most of the Western expats in the country are disgusted and outraged by the behavior of the so called ‘victims’. It reflects badly on us, as Westerners and as ‘Christians’. Tourists are more than welcome, but they should have enough sense to realize that you don’t show affection in public, stagger around the streets drunk, or get into arguments with the locals or any other Arab person. If they do, they should be disciplined swiftly and made to leave the country.

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  • integrity1st says:
    2010/03/30 at 10:37 am  integrity1st(Quote)

    I know so little of what goes on in Dubai, I would not mind a whole feature of the atrocities, if they are known to others. The word needs to be spread and it appears the only ones that know are those who LOOK for it. Let’s make it easy and try to help expose?

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  • Kate 2 says:
    2010/03/30 at 10:46 am  Kate 2(Quote)

    Logic stops at the Jordan.

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  • Mary Quite-Contrary says:
    2010/03/30 at 12:03 pm  Mary Quite-Contrary(Quote)

    Dubai is also the home of the ‘World’s Tallest’ building ready to fall down. As the Boyz have reported (as have other bloggers) that the Burj Khalifa (the Tower) has been plagued by shoddy workmanship (I guess 21st century enslaved labor doesn’t lead to fine craftsmanship) and poor engineering and architecture.

    The west (and its tourist peeps) should stay far away from the Tower and its country.

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  • noodlenoggin says:
    2010/03/30 at 12:10 pm  noodlenoggin(Quote)

    http://www.jihadwatch.org is a great place to keep up with the ever encroaching arm of islamic oppression.

    recent titles -

    Muslim students call for removal of ‘Our Lord’ from diplomas…at, wait for it…… ‘Trinity’ University.

    …hey dips, you don’t like seeing it, don’t go to a historically religious university.

    Jihad leader “Islam does not recognize international boundaries, we will carry out our operations anywhere in the world if we can have the chance”

    And that is the goal of islam. Anywhere that is not under islamic rule is considered ‘the land of war’.

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  • noodlenoggin says:
    2010/03/30 at 12:15 pm  noodlenoggin(Quote)

    islamic clerics are perverts all…islam is perverted.

    Keep scrolling down, at jihadwatch.org….the largest organization that says sharia takes precedence over civil law, also proclaimed

    “NU rules in favor of underage marriages,” by Muhammad Nafik and Andi Hajramurni for the Jakarta Post, March 27:

    The minimum age of 16 years to marry under the prevailing 1974 marriage law is not a sharia-binding regulation for Muslims, according to Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) jurists.
    The panel of sharia experts announced there was no age limitation for marriage under Islamic law.
    They did not cite gender; but the law states that women must be at least 16 to marry, while the minimum age for men to marry is 18.
    The experts said Muslim parents can marry off their underage children, but strongly appealed for marriages to only be carried out after the child has reached puberty.
    Non-binding. Wink-wink.

    The jurists underlined that couples in which both are underage must abstain from sexual intercourse until they are deemed physically and mentally capable of doing so.
    In practice, the person making that call will all too likely be the randy old creep who just married a 12-year-old.

    The edict was reached at a meeting of jurists at the national leadership conference of NU, the country’s largest Muslim organization, in Makassar, South Sulawesi.
    “The majority of clerics are of the opinion that there is no minimum age limit in marriage under sharia law,” NU jurist Cholil Nafis told a press conference on the sidelines of the congress on Friday.

    The edict to allow for underage marriages quickly sparked protests from human rights activists Friday.
    “It’s a setback and contravenes the 2002 Child Protection Law,” National Commission for Child’s Protection (Komnas Anak) secretary general Arist Merdeka Sirait said.
    Article 48 of the law requires parents to prevent their children from underage marriages, he argued.
    “Underage marriages eliminate the rights of children, particularly to determine their future, and encourages sexual exploitation,” Arist said….

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    • nervygirl says:
      2010/03/30 at 12:55 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

      Right on, noodle!
      Islam is a perversion of religion.
      I consider it a cult. And anyone who doesn’t know what’s REALLY going on with these people is blind or a fool.

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      • Cat says:
        2010/03/30 at 1:46 pm  Cat(Quote)

        It’s a heresy. Here’s a quote from John Quincy Adams who studied the Koran and knew of Muslim history:

        “In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar the Egyptian [i.e. Muhammed], combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an imposter, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST; TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE… Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant… While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.”

        I think JQA had a better inkling of what Islam is about than most people do.

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        • nervygirl says:
          2010/03/30 at 2:09 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

          Fantastic quote. Thanks for that!

          Even our founders were smart enough to know that this “religion” is anything BUT.

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        • libertyray says:
          2010/03/30 at 8:05 pm  libertyray(Quote)

          This is an amazing find. Thank you for this. I am blown away by this. Islam was noted to be an evil cancer on this earth even back then. Wow!

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  • Bronwen says:
    2010/03/30 at 12:30 pm  Bronwen(Quote)

    We always planned that once the children were out on their own we would start taking overseas assignments. Well they gave us one… Dubai. There is no way we can go there, I’m Jewish. And with all the stories that have come out about tourists and the horrible things that have happened to them even if I wasn’t Jewish we wouldn’t take it.

    I always thought they leaned more towards sanity because of all the stuff they do to bring in tourists. Guess they’re worried their big buildings would be bombed.

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    • ozzieaussie says:
      2010/03/30 at 3:34 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

      You are right… just recently the corrupt police chief of Dubai declared that Jews would be put in prison if they came.

      The big story of late is the one about the assassination of an arms dealer. According to this police chief there were 26 plus assassins involved, allegedly from Mossad… talk about blood libel!!

      Yes people did have their identities stolen. However, if you look at where the people were located in Israel, and the fact that there were a lot of burglaries… how do you think that the identity theft could take place? I do not think it was the work of Mossad.

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      • Bronwen says:
        2010/03/30 at 4:16 pm  Bronwen(Quote)

        When Mossad does something…. you don’t know about it!

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    • jbjd says:
      2010/03/31 at 10:26 am  jbjd(Quote)

      That’s what I was thinking, too. What is the first thing I would have to do to feel safe in a Muslim country? Put on the hijab or take off my Jewish star?

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      • Xana says:
        2010/03/31 at 4:22 pm  Xana(Quote)

        Make sure your hijab is hiding your Jewish star?

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  • qr4j says:
    2010/03/30 at 12:31 pm  qr4j(Quote)

    I suggest people visit the Madang Province of Papua New Guinea if you want a beautiful, but off-the-beaten-path, place to go. Port Morseby (the capital) has lots of crime. Last I knew, Madang was pretty safe. Parents lived there in the 1980s while sis and I were at Ukarumpa in the Eastern Highlands Province.

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    • qr4j says:
      2010/03/30 at 12:32 pm  qr4j(Quote)

      Ukarumpa is a boarding school.

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    • ozzieaussie says:
      2010/03/30 at 3:35 pm  ozzieaussie(Quote)

      Papua New Guinea has its own set of problems.

      It is not all that safe….

      My husband has been there and he has stories!!

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  • Jim Walter says:
    2010/03/30 at 12:42 pm  Jim Walter(Quote)

    Visiting a hotbed of lunacy aside, we should always lead off with respect, particularly if we’re on another’s soil as guests. Respect begets respect.

    On the other hand, if respect is met with disdain, the gloves come off. Lack of humor falters in the face of truth and irony, but fanaticism doesn’t crumble quickly. I think we’re in for a long, bumpy ride.

    http://jimwalterpix.typepad.com/download-the-kaboom/2009/10/humor-first-line-of-resistance-first-line-to-fall.html

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  • C Mill says:
    2010/03/30 at 1:29 pm  C Mill(Quote)

    Wow. Hey Hillbuzz, you may get your wish. Today at the about 25 minute spot in Tammy Bruce’s show, she said, “I have to get the Hillbuzz guys on the show” or something to that affect. Yeah! Can’t wait.

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    • C Mill says:
      2010/03/30 at 1:32 pm  C Mill(Quote)

      Here’s the link to the live stream, that goes from 2 to 4pm (eastern) daily.

      http://www.talkstreamlive.com/talk_radio/tammy_bruce.stream

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  • getfitnow says:
    2010/03/30 at 2:14 pm  getfitnow(Quote)

    People are either ignorant or choose to ignore (at their peril) laws in other countries. No matter how insane you, personally, think they are,like at home, you obey the law.

    I have lived in Mexico part time for 7 years and am still amazed at the “rule breaking.”

    It takes little effort to check with the country’s consulate before traveling to bone up on protocol.

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  • nervygirl says:
    2010/03/30 at 2:25 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

    Here’s another article about Islam’s intrusion on America.

    If they want sharia law, they can go back to the hell holes they came from. If they want to go to a Christian University, they can follow that CHRISTIAN University’s rules.

    Islam does not work in America because we are a FREE nation. There is nothing free about Islam.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/muslims-attack-christianity-at-trinity-university.html

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    • Cat says:
      2010/03/30 at 2:35 pm  Cat(Quote)

      These schools ought to have them sign an agreement that they fully understand the nature of the university, its heritage, its beliefs, and its founding, and that they may not agitate for changing that.

      Othewise, go to a secular school; it’s not like they have no choice, for heaven’s sakes.

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      • nervygirl says:
        2010/03/30 at 2:57 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

        Yeah, but they go to a secular school and demand foot baths. They don’t even have foot baths in the countries they come from, unless they are mullahs.

        They are intent on destroying this country from the inside out, and they are making a lot of headway, as the politically correct Leftards give in to their demands.

        Check out atlas shrugs and jihadwatch to get the truth.
        Scary stuff.

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    • SFGoth says:
      2010/03/31 at 9:57 am  SFGoth(Quote)

      And right up until 9/11, the religious right wanted to make common cause with Islam…. Just noting….

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      • Xana says:
        2010/03/31 at 4:38 pm  Xana(Quote)

        Is this so surprising? When schools teach that the Islamic empire “saved civilization” during the dark ages, when what you’ve mostly noticed about Muslim immigrants is their modest dress, work ethic, abstention from drink, and apparent piety — when, in short, you’re basically ignorant of Islam and have only heard good things, then why wouldn’t you make common cause with them, especially if you’re trying to shed the reputation of wanting to force Christianity on everyone?

        It’s like voting for Obama because his looks assuage white guilt and the way he talks sounds nice. It’s shallowness and ignorance.

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  • nervygirl says:
    2010/03/30 at 7:47 pm  nervygirl(Quote)

    On a lighter note, here is a video of our American Soldiers reuniting with their loved ones.

    If this doesn’t make you cry, you aren’t human.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU

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    • Carol says:
      2010/03/30 at 8:10 pm  Carol(Quote)

      Very beautiful.

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    • Cat says:
      2010/03/30 at 8:18 pm  Cat(Quote)

      Well, now you’ve done it. You had me weepy and remembering when my sis came home from Desert Storm.

      Thanks, that was wonderful.

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    • Emma says:
      2010/03/31 at 8:30 am  Emma(Quote)

      Just reporting in: I’m human.

      The eyes go wide,they gasp, they jump, they run with arms open, they cry, and then hold on as tight as they can.

      God bless them all.

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    • JKR says:
      2010/03/31 at 9:45 am  JKR(Quote)

      Argh, I cried all of the way through it.

      That aint’ ‘light’! That’s about as deep as it gets…

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    • Suz says:
      2010/03/31 at 10:50 am  Suz(Quote)

      Had to go blow my nose more than once. Thanks for the good, happy 5:01minute cry. Godspeed to all of those who serve.

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  • Carol says:
    2010/03/30 at 8:22 pm  Carol(Quote)

    Anyone interested in the topic of this thread, these folks are a must read:

    Jihad Watch (Robert Spencer, who sometimes collaborates with Pam Geller)
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/

    Atlas Shrugs (Pam Geller)
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

    Daniel Pipes
    http://www.danielpipes.org/

    Phyllis Chesler
    http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/

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    Read books by and/or listen to Nonie Darwish

    There are many others, but these are folks on the front lines every day and worth reading on a regular basis, at least in my view.

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  • Kate says:
    2010/03/31 at 11:14 am  Kate(Quote)

    When Dubai first announced that it wanted to become a huge global business hub, I truly wondered how the heck they were going to accomplish that. First off, they refuse to accept that fully 51% of the world’s population actually have brains, much less are capable of conducting business. Next, they would treat a substantial number of very successful business owners and leaders as less than human. (Jews.) Next, they would treat members of their own religion nearly as badly as they would women and Jews becaquse they are Shia rather than Sunni. And there’s always that fun fact that there is no word in Arabic for Black that doesn’t have the connotation of slave. And let’s not forget how hideously Islam treats gays and lesbians.

    So basically, they may try to market themselves as this great business hub, but the only people actually welcome are male Arab Sunni heteros. No one else need apply.

    I think that any business that opens a branch in Dubai should be sharply and publicly rebuked for willingly collaborating with such as exclusionary system. (Isn’t “exclusion” the greatest of all sins?)

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