Archive for August, 2010
A Bachelor Party in Boystown?
We’ve written before about the issues some people in Boystown have with bachelorette parties hitting the bars on the strip. There are a few camps on this issue, with most people generally falling into a category that doesn’t particularly like these girls coming to gay bars to have their parties, but understanding that they do spend SOME money in the bars, and that’s a great thing in the Obama Economy (where we are all STILL waiting for that hope and spare change we were promised).
Some guys actively hate the bachelorettes and want them banned, because in many cases these girls seem to be more trouble than they are worth. They come into a bar, scream and shout, are loud the entire time they are in there, and leave after having one round of shots and taking as many pictures as they can of the guys in the bar. This makes a lot of gay guys feel like they are animals in a zoo being gawked at – so much so that bars like Cocktail, Charlie’s, and others have a no-bachelorettes policy because of this.
Personally, we like seeing 90% of these girls out and about. It’s very rare for us to encounter the obnoxious, stomach-turning, point-and-gawk suburbanites who prompted the negative reaction against these parties. Usually, the girls who come to Boystown for their bachelorette party are either mousy, had-no-better-idea girls with friends or cousins who hang around with a lot of gay dudes (what we call a fairy’s princess, but some of you might still refer to in the pejorative as a “fag hag”) or they’re cool girls, elegant, with a sense of humor who are out for a Sex and the City sort of night and they’ve made Boystown one of their stops — a highlight — but not the be-all, end-all of the adventure.
That last batch of girls can be amazing, actually, especially when they dress up. Either dress to the nines and look better styled than girls off a magazine shoot, or dress up ridiculously, like as variations of Lady Gaga or where they each dress like a different 80s singer and go out for a theme night. Love. Those. Girls. They are a lot of fun, and never make anyone in the bar feel awkward, and never scream and shout and annoy other patrons.
Now, none of these women tip well. Ever. So it is a pain for the bartenders…or, worse, the strippers, in Boystown. As we’ve talked about before, the standard tip in bar is a dollar a drink. Anything less than that and you shouldn’t be going out. Save your money until you can afford to show courtesy, because the bartenders work really hard. It’s not an easy job. Trust us on that. Bachelorette parties tend to be incredibly high maintenance, time-consuming, and attention-demanding…but with no compensatory tip at the end to make it a bartender’s worthwhile. Worse, the girls at a bar will drive other paying customers a way, so not only are they not taking care of their bartender, but they are costing him business just by being there, since older gay men in particular don’t want to be around the bachelorette parties. And, of course, the older guys are the ones who actually tip…a lot…so it’s a multiple-whammy for the staff when these girls hold court in a bar on a Friday or Saturday night (AKA, the nights service industry employees make all their money for the week).
Strippers get hosed by bachelorette parties because they expect all these guys to be Chippendales’ dancers, and to do acrobatic tricks on the stage, and to dote on them, when that’s not what happens in a gay bar. Guys, especially older ones, will tip a male go-go dancer well for just standing there in his underwear. He doesn’t have to move at all and he’ll make $25 in fifteen minutes up there on the stage. If he knows a few moves and can keep time to the music and work the crowd, he’ll do much better. But, he doesn’t have to break a sweat to get tipped well by guys. Women expect him to be what they’ve seen on TV, but they won’t reward him for the effort. While guys will slip him fives (or even tens, for some of the grandpas who are making up for all the years they lost playing it straight), women will begrudgingly give him a single or two, screaming and yelling the whole time, and once again chasing away the actual, paying customers. Guys also buy the strippers drinks, which they like, because contrary to popular belief the bars don’t supply drinks for free. Women in gay bars just don’t take care of the staff, but expect the staff to cater to them, to the detriment of actual, paying, gay, male customers. Which the bars were opened to cater to.
So, that’s part of the backstory with why bachelorette parties aren’t especially loved here in Boystown. Some people will tell you that there’s a big political unspoken issue regarding gay marriage in this too, but that’s nonsense. It’s all about money, folks. The women in gay bars don’t tip well, they don’t treat the staffs of other patrons well (in general), and they drive business away. No one is jealous these women are getting married. None of us want to be in their weddings. None of us wish we could have a “bachelorette party” too. Because, frankly, we can have any sort of party we want, any day of the week, and it’s guaranteed to be fabulous. There’s a better chance than not that Cyndi Lauper or Liza Minnelli would stop by, or even perform, and the whole thing would be like an elaborate photo shoot for Vogue. No one is stopping any gay from having a party and calling it whatever he wants. And no one is stopping any of us from getting “married” either — because we know of about five “married” gay male couples who had a commitment ceremony, and a big party, and did gay “bachelor” parties too. A good lawyer, the right paperwork, and legally binding contractual agreements can give two guys (or two women) the same legal rights that Britney Spears had with that guy she was married to for about fifteen hours. It might take more work, and more creativity on the part of a good lawyer, but if a gay can dream it in this world, he can use some of his magic to make it happen.
There just needs to be another word invented for it than “marriage”, because we think that word should be reserved for people who had a religious ceremony. Everyone should have to go to city hall and file paperwork for a civil union…and then people who belong to churches or temples or whatever can get “married” in a sacramental ceremony of their choosing. Just as we all get birth certificates, but the religious then get baptized afterwards. The state does not baptize, and the state should not marry. It should only join in legal unions…of which any two consenting adults of legal age should be able to enter into together.
“Partnership” is not a good word, because it’s already taken by lawyers and others in business relationships. “Spousehood” is something we’ve tried to use, but it’s so awkward. One day, it will hit us like lightning what a word for two guys together, legally joined would be…and what a corresponding word for two lesbians would be. Then, there would be correct verbiage for all possible variations on the them: marriage, for straight people who had a religious ceremony…domestic partnership for straight people who are joined by the state but who did not have a religious ceremony…”X” for two men joined by the state…and “Y” for two lesbians joined by the state. Maybe two more options would be created for two men and two women who go on to have some sort of religious ceremony of their own in the future, after the state joining. You could spend all day obsessing over verbiage and semantics like this, and it’s honestly too gorgeous of an end of summer day to do that.
But, we did want to note that something happened last night at Roscoe’s here in Boystown that actually made us feel that angst, frustration, and insult that we’ve always heard some people felt towards those bachelorette girls, but which we’ve never personally felt on our own.
And it took a bachelor party hitting Boystown to make us feel this way.
“Bachelor Party” in the traditional sense, with an obnoxious frat boy, man-child, straight guy and his buddies who decided to come to Boystown to “see the fags” and raise a little Hell in an environment in which they thought they’d get the better of everyone.
They appeared right around the same time as a large trolley full of drunken bachelorette girls rolled down Halsted, making a brief stop in front of Cocktail so the girls could flash their breasts at the windows and generally establish how drunk they were. When no one paid them a bit of attention, or indulged whatever exhibitionistic fetishes they were trying to work out, the disappointed bride-to-be and her entourage pulled away, no doubt heading for Wrigleyville where they could flash away and get all sorts of freebies all night as a result. This is, quite frankly, where these sorts of antics belong…on Chicago’s version of Bourbon Street, just a block west of Boystown.
We never saw the bachelor party enter, so they must have done so during the trolley’s commotion, but we couldn’t miss them once they were inside. The bachelor was late-20s, and the sort of guy we imagine works as a day trader or something else professional and testosterone-fueled downtown. He wore a neon-colored shirt somewhere north of chartreuse, emblazoned with RIP 10/01/10 on his back…the date we presume he’s either to be married, or executed (or, a little of both, depending on your position on marriage). He’s the sort of guy who has to announce his presence in every room he enters so even the blind and deaf person in the back corner knows he’s there. We can’t imagine he’s much different starting work every morning, because guys like this only allow alcohol to amplify who they typically are…but no amount of booze can really turn a naturally nice, decent guy into a jackass. He has to be a jackass to start with, but one who keeps it under control most days.
The bachelor’s buddies were all tools — late-20s as well, and probably a mix of some guys he went to college with (frat buddies, most likely) and guys from the office. Absolutely all of them were as straight as straight could be, and were dressed hideously in mismatched checks and stripes, like they’d been shopping with Michelle Obama at the Men’s Wearhouse or J.C. Penny’s. They had a white sheet of paper with them that was some sort of scavenger hunt checklist, and they drafted a girl who looked like Jersey Shore’s Snookie to help them fill in a few of the spaces. It was a photo scavenger hunt, so they had to take pictures of the bachelor doing various things…like walking a stranger’s dog, talking to a cop, kissing a fat girl, etc.
And, yes, they actually did go up to a large woman in Roscoe’s and asked to take their picture with her. About the only thing we’ll give these guys points for was the fact they were dead honest about everything they were doing: they were upfront with the girl and told her they needed a pic with a “fat chick” and they accurately surmised this particular girl would have no problem with the label. She thought it was a blast, in fact, and took the pic with no problem. Everyone in the bachelor party laughed, and the “fat chick” laughed with them, but the rest of the people in the bar got more and more uncomfortable the longer these clowns were in there.
For the first time, we understood what those people were talking about when they said they felt the bachelorette parties made them uncomfortable, as if the girls were visiting the zoo.
We saw the bachelor and his friends looking down their lists, then scoping the bar to see if there were any other potential scavenger items to snap off. They must have had a cigar store Indian on the list, because they took a picture of themselves with one that’s positioned prominently in Roscoe’s front window (with Roscoe’s essentially being a cross between a TGI Friday’s and your grandmother’s attic in terms of decor). Maybe that’s what drew them into the bar in the first place (though Blue Havana, an actual smoke shop, is just a few streets away, and it has SEVERAL of these Indians they could have photographed themselves with).
The bachelor kept going in and out of the bar to puff on a big, fat cigar, while his friends nervously followed him in and out. The bachelor was being overly gregarious, talking to everyone who was walking by, though few of them wanted to talk to him. He made a big show about how much he didn’t have a problem with being in Boystown, showing how straight he was by how loud and boisterous he was being, but how open-minded he was that he was there on his bachelor party night.
The whole thing was weird, really.
Security kept watching the group like hawks, to see if they said or did anything that would warrant booting them. They didn’t buy any drinks, and were just milling around, looking at items for their list, when finally Sebastian said he’d had enough of this and was going over to end it.
So, he took off his shirt, and strode over to the bachelor on his last trip back inside. Bast, shirtless, then proceeded to flirt with the guy and test how much he could take. Remember, the guy was making a big show of how cool he was with being a bachelor in Boystown, and how gregarious and cool of a guy he was in general, and Bast maneuvered this against him.
It lasted about a minute, where Bast asked him if he was marrying a guy or a girl, and when the bachelor said, “Uh, duh, a girl” Bast asked him “Well, what are you doing here, stud?”. “Because if you’re spending your bachelor party here, chief, maybe your fiancee needs to know a thing or two about you before the wedding night”.
The bachelor had to laugh, that strained, nervous sort of laugh straight guys use when they are embarrassed…and he waited until the next song started playing before he decided he wanted to leave, so it didn’t look like he was being run out of there, but that pretty much did it.
He and his buddies poured out of the bar, and high-tailed it to the cars they had parked in the 711 lot across the street. They headed north, to points unknown, but for all we know they could have been going to Crew, Wild Pug, Jackhammer’s, Touche, or even Man’s Country (a favorite of at least two married men who currently work in the White House).
If a bachelor party starts off in Boystown at Roscoe’s, there’s no limit to the amount of gay bars it could end up.
The whole thing was just bizarre. And a very effective deployment of a shirtless Sebastian to solve a problem, yet again. We were going to use Panda, but that would have been overkill. And it could have resulted in a bachelor-shaped hole in the wall near the door as he tried to make his escape.
It was a damper to the night feeling like these straight guys had come out to make fun of the guys who were out at Roscoe’s. But, on the same note, it was such a puzzle these guys would WANT to come down to Boystown to do something like this in the first place. Every once in a while, there’ll be a carload of little suburban punks (who must have just gotten their license) that will roll through Boystown, with all but the driver shouting “FAGS!” as loud as they can. They’re all intensely stupid, of course, because 70% of the population of Boystown spends 3 hours a day in the gym, doing cardio and heavy lifting, so shouting something like that results in a couple dozen bodybuilders chasing your car down the street. We’ve never seen what happens when guys catch up with a car like that and let those inside have it, but we bet it wouldn’t be pretty.
This isn’t 1980 anymore. It’s 2010, and this is not a zoo for straight people’s amusement or a place for little punks to come and shout pejoratives. Boystown should be a safe place to come and have fun, with the goal of an evening never being to see how many people you can make fun of.
It’s sad if any bachelor or bachelorette would want to start their marriage off by being cruel to anyone, even strangers, and gays in particular. We can’t imagine what sort of union would follow a beginning like this…but maybe that explains the high rate of divorce amongst punks like these.
The first, of course, to cry about the “sanctity of marriage” whenever gay couples want to commit…and do it in a way that does not involve a scavenger hunt through Wrigleyville making fun of anyone.
What should be done to any company that helps build the Ground Zero Victory Mosque: audits, audits, audits and scrutiny of all illegal employees
A friend of ours is a general contractor, and a few of us have worked over the years as project managers on assorted construction projects of varying sizes.
Every last one of these projects employed Hispanic men who spoke no English. Maybe they were landscapers, or day laborers, or guys who were paid in cash at the end of the day to haul away debris or otherwise do the things that legal workers wouldn’t do.
The construction industry is RIFE with labor fraud — and our friend the contractor tells us that he would not be able to stay in business if he had to pay documented workers fair wages on his projects. The illegals work for very little money, and if they are injured on the job, they just disappear into the night, because they are too afraid of being deported to file any kind of workers’ compensation claims that would raise the contractor’s insurance premiums.
So, here’s our thought: knowing this about the construction industry, how about America makes a deal with the construction companies licensed to operate in New York state. If any of them work on the Ground Zero Victory Mosque project, then Americans should make it their mission to audit these companies and find out the legal working status of EVERY LAST PERSON on those construction sites.
Every last one of them.
And not just the GZVM site itself, but on EVERY LAST SITE this construction company is working on.
It should be so toxic and problematic to work on the GZVM that no business in its right mind would want to draw that sort of scrutiny to itself. Taking on this project should be an invitation from the construction companies to Americans to do everything they can to put those contractors out of business.
If you take this job, you will lose all other jobs you have, and you will be out of business in a few years because Americans will shine such a bright light upon you and your business practices that you will not be able to keep your outfits afloat.
It’s a dirty secret the construction firms lean heavily on what’s essentially slave labor in the form of the illegal workers. Those of us who have dealt with these companies know this, and if push comes to shove and ground gets broken on this project, then anyone with a working knowledge of all the shady things construction firms do should laser-target every company involved in the building and air their dirty laundry to the world.
Then use that information to start seeking indictments of the executives signing off on all of this.
Build that Victory Mosque, and lose your company.
Simple as that.
Conservatives need to understand what "Belt & Suspenders" means
Here is an observation from us, as lifelong Democrats, on one of the ways Democrats beat Republicans so often even though the majority of Americans favor conservative positions on most things.
Time and again, we see conservatives fail to understand the “Belt & Suspenders” approach to politics…or, really, anything that Democrats want to achieve.
There’s some Alinsky wrapped up in this too, which Republicans ignore thinking they are “taking the high road”, whatever that means, while Alinsky saturation tactics are used to overwhelm them and win the day for Democrats.
“Belt & Suspenders” means having several strategies in play, simultaneously, as failsafes to assure victory in the end. This involves never having just one route to a win, but maintaining multiple lines of attack that all have equal chances of winning the day.
Think Tic, Tac, Toe.
Republicans tend to focus on either an up or sideways line of play. Democrats add the diagonal.
With the Ground Zero Victory Mosque, we need you conservatives out there to think of as many SIMULTANEOUS ways to stop this project as possible. Just as Democrats do when they want to stop something.
At the end of the day, we believe some obscure trade union will be the end of this monument to Islamic Conquest. It will be something like the Pipefitters Local, which will vote to not work on the project, after it is successfully pressured by conservatives and patriotic Americans…and lobbied relentlessly by those of us out there who know someone murdered by Muslims on 9/11.
Democrats can approve all the permits they want for this Ground Zero Victory Mosque. Democrats in office, like the two Demcorat Senators representing New York (up for re-election this year), and the entire Democrat New York Congressional delegation, can side with the White House and Nancy Pelosi and call anyone who opposes this abomination all sorts of names. The public should direct its ire at these people, but they are so brain-dead and absorbed in the Cult of Liberalism that they are tone deaf to almost everything the public wants.
The Ground Zero Victory Mosque will be stopped, but not because Democrats in office will come to their senses and sstop it. If you are waiting for Democrats to come to reason on anything, and are holding your breath doing so, please start breathing again. You have been blue in the face for thirty years or so at this point.
“Belt & Suspenders” means running CONCURRENT, COMPLEMENTARY campaigns against Democrats on this issue.
Here are just a few we can think of off the top of our heads. We want you to think of more and add them to this thread.
(1) Target big Democrat donors, and horrify them at the thought they will be identified as supporters of this Ground Zero Victory Mosque because their funds are enabling the mosque-supporters like Pelosi and Obama to remain in office. These big donors do not want their names or businesses hurt by association with this project. So, get them, as private citizens and Democrat financiers, on record against this…then pressure them for an answer on the question of why they are giving so much damn money to people like Pelosi and Obama (and Senators Gillibrand and Schumer), who want to see a monument to Islamic Conquest rise above Ground Zero. Democrats ignore the people, but they bow to donors.
(2) Target all construction companies licensed to operate in New York and make it known to their C-Suite executives that if they agree to build this Ground Zero Victory Mosque that for the rest of your life you will make it a hobby of yours to convice future clients from hiring this firm. Make it known in the construction industry that any company that accepts this project will have the perpetual scorn of the public brought down on it. Think about what Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Henry Gates, and the rest of the Race Industry does to corporations to scare them away from doing things the Race Industry does not want them to do. Those tactics are very effective, and as disgusting as these race hucksters are, you cannot argue with their results.
(3) Pre-emptively start a rebellion with the trade unions and other entities that must be present on a construction site for a building project of this nature to proceed. In Chicago, buildings cannot be built without certain guilds and craftsman reps present on the job. It’s largely a corruption and graft requirement, and we can’t imagine New York not having something like this too, forcing a project to employ all sorts of experts to do certain things that are written into city building codes. Ie, pipefitters from the proper pipefitting union must fit the pipes for the sprinklers. If that does not happen, the Fire Marshal will not allow the building to rise, because it is unsafe. Well, what if the pipefitters in New York who are authorized by the state to work on building projects all refuse to work on this job? What if the Fire Marshal refuses to sign off on the building? There can be no Victory Mosque unless all the various trade unions and guilds allow this building to be constructed.
(4) Send an SOS to organized crime in the New York/New Jersey area. This might sound absurd to you at first, but the crime families in major cities are actually very patriotic people. They are almost always in it for themselves, of course, but they are no fans of Islam. How can the Victory Mosque be built if all the supplies that are needed for the building site mysteriously fall off ships at the docks or are lost on the highway somewhere coming into the city? What about late at night when all of the bulldozers, cranes, and other machines needed suffer all sorts of bizarre mechanical problems. We hear there are a lot of raccoons and squirrels living in lower Manhattan that love messing around with machinery at night. And those machines all need to be certified as safe, for the crews to work, and having machines that constantly break down sure would seem to risk any safety certifications the project would have. The mob in this country might generally do a lot of bad things, but we have a sincere and honest hope the crime families of the tri-state area come together to do whatever they can behind the scenes to stop construction of this Victory Mosque if it would ever get that far.
(5) The gay bar idea adjacent to the mosque is just one concept for making the neighborhood wholly unappealling to the Islamists who want to built this Tower of Triumph over Ground Zero. Pork processing facilities, museusms of pork products through the years, and anything else pig related needs to go in the three block radius circling this Victory Mosque. We’ve suggested commissioning public art, like the fiberglass cows that are dotted around Chicago, but in pig form, to decorate the streets surrounding the Victory Mosque. If the city won’t approve that, then local graffiti artists should be employed by the mob to absolutely cover every available surface in the area with depictions of pigs…and portraits of Muhammad as portrayed by the character Sloth from The Goonies. Every artistic endeavor imaginable should be used to make this would-be triumphant Victory Mosque into an laughstock. Do not allow these Muslims to use this Victory Mosque as a propaganda and recruiting tool overseas. Let there be no angle in which it can be photographed without there being a giant pig sculpture or deformed depiction of Muhammad spoiling that shot.
Resist this project with everything that you have, in every creative angle you can think of.
Just like leaving the house with a belt, suspenders, an extra belt, packing tape, chains, rope, bubble gum (bacon flavored, of course), more suspenders, and a giant bunch of balloons to hold your pants up, approach the defeat of the Ground Zero Victory Mosque project with absolutely everything you can think of, simultaneously, so the Muslims and DemoThreats pushing this have 1,700 fronts to battle on.
That’s some Cloward-Piven action right back at them, baby.
We guarantee the Left knows how to dish stuff like this out, but has absolutely no experience defending against it because Republicans and conservatives at large have never turned these tactics against them.
If not now, with so much at stake, WHEN will conservatives coast to coast wake up and wise up?
Let's employ old anti-Apartheid tactics against Democrats and the Ground Zero Victory Mosque
Last night was 80s Request Night at Sidetracks here in Boystown.
We turn out to represent Laura Branigan, Bonnie Tyler, Whitney, Cyndi, and other ladies of the 80s we love, but who don’t get as much play as Madonna and other artists on request night. We also try to toss in some general randomness and novelty songs, just to keep the mix fresh. Sidetracks has a very strange policy, instituted by co-owner Chuck Hyde, of not playing any songs with “America” in the title (such as They Coming to America by Neil Diamond or Living In America by James Brown) because he claims they upset him — apparently his birthday is September 10th, and he was in New York on a ferry to the Statue of Liberty when Neil Diamond’s American tribute came over the loudspeaker, and whenever he hears it now he collapses into the fetal position because this was his birthday in 2001, the day before Muslims murdered 3,000 Americans by hijacking jetliners and crashing them into the World Trade Center.
One of us was in New York on September 10th, 2001 as well, and actually had breakfast in Windows on the World…the day before the restaurant was destroyed…and our friend Jane who worked in one of the towers was killed…yet, even though that was a more chilling memory than being on a ferry boat in the bay, we can listen to Neil Diamond without soiling ourselves, but whatever. We love Sidetracks, but they do a lot of bizarre things.
They will, however, play “Won’t Play Sun City”, a “We Are The World” type of song put together by a collection of 80s artists urging performers to boycott the little-known South African entertainment resort of Sun City. Due to Streisand Effect, telling people to boycott Sun City by way of a big video and song about not going there only put Sun City on the radar for many people…and made them curious about going there. Because, generally, people in the entertainment industry are stupid like this.
The song, however, got us thinking. Because it DID put pressure on all major American performing acts to boycott the concert venue at Sun City. None of the top talent of the day played Sun City after that. Some of them still won’t.
We think this should be done to the construction industry regarding the Ground Zero Victory Mosque.
An effort should be originated by ground level union members to ensure that their cement companies, steel manufacturers, work crews, and other elements of the industry refuse to submit RFPs and RFQs for this Ground Zero Victory Mosque.
RFPs are “request for proposals” and RFQs are “request for qualifications”. When a building project gets underway, firms are sent these RFPs and RFQs — which are booklets with information about the project — and the companies’ fill in the blanks stating how much their bids would cost. Then, the project manager hired by the owner of the property uses those RFP and RFQ responses to select the building team that will but the final product together.
We would like to see Americans ensure no construction companies are willing to take on this project.
No one licensed to do business in the state of New York should assist this Ground Zero Victory Mosque in any way.
Using Sun City as an example, performers who played in South Africa during Apartheid were ostracized by the rest of the entertainment industry. Playing Sun City killed their careers for a while.
If Turner Construction, for instance, decided to build the Ground Zero Victory Mosque, then Americans nationwide should aim their ire at the rest of Turner’s clients…and pressure them to fire Turner for building that monstrosity. The same should go for all the other firms involved in a project this big. If you submit a bid to work on the Victory Mosque, then you will lose money in the long run because of the bad publicity the company will receive for having a part in this horror.
We need to make companies see that being associated with the Ground Zero Victory Mosque would make them pennywise and pound-foolish. They will harm the longterm viability of their companies by making whatever they would get from the Wahabbiists from building this Islamic Conquest Monument.
The workers who do the actual building need to be reminded of the carnage of 9/11, and what Muslims did that day…and they need to have those images haunt them. They should not be able to live with themselves if they help raise a mosque on the site where so many Americans leapt to their deaths to avoid being incinerated by the flames caused by the jetliners Islam smashed into the Twin Towers.
If a Neil Diamond song, and it’s connection to 9/11, can still make a very rich Liberal here in Chicago soil himself — to the point where he’s so damaged he has to ban songs that remind him of 9/11 in his bar — then we can’t imagine how construction workers in New York City could be able to work on this project with a clear conscience.
There are many fronts involved in stopping this building from ever being built…and we think Sun City points us to one very effective avenue of resistance against this planned dhimmihood.
Don’t play Sun City.
Don’t work on the Ground Zero Victory Mosque.
Anyone who defies this will suffer great consequences.
Wednesday Open Thread: August 18th, 2010
What’s on your minds this Wednesday?
Are people where you live talking about the Democrats’ push to build the Ground Zero Victory Mosque?
Are you seeing any hit in the polls for Democrats backing this abomination?
Can you call your congressional representatives today and ask them where they stand on building a symbol of Islamic conquest on ground where one of our personal friends, Jane, was murdered nine years ago?
Because this is personal for us, folks. It’s personal for a great many Americans. And Democrats need to pay at the polls for what they are doing here.
RESEARCH: We need a good timeline and explanation of what's been stopping the rebuilding of the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church at Ground Zero
For nine years now, Democrats have blocked the rebuilding of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Chrisitan Church at Ground Zero, using various bureaucratic Port Authority tricks to keep the church in ruins.
St. Nicholas stood at Ground Zero since 1922. Before there ever was a World Trade Center. Before buildings that tall were even possible. Before commercial jetliners flew the skies.
Why have Democrats worked so hard to keep St. Nicholas from rebuilding, but have jumped through all manner of hoops, gleefully, to fast track construction of the Ground Zero Victory Mosque?
Here’s what we want to create: a side-by-side timeline of the efforts undertaken to thwart St. Nicholas while simultaneously pushing the Ground Zero Victory Mosque.
We envision this timeline being made into a wonderful piece of campaign material to be sent to voters asking them if the Democrat Party represents THEIR cultural values.
Can you help fill in the story of what’s been going on with St. Nicholas?
QUESTION: Do you think the Ground Zero Victory Mosque will put Obama under 39% for the first time in approval ratings?
Chrissy-the-Hyphenated ran a great piece today on the latest Rasmussen polls, and Obama sinking to new lows in them.
These polls were taken before the Ground Zero Victory Mosque became a major issue…and before most people started hearing about it.
We’re waiting for the issue to fully take the nation by storm, which we don’t think it has yet. Maybe in a week or so.
Then, it will be a little while after that before the polls start to reflect any change in public opinion Obama’s wild support for an Islamic symbol of conquest at Ground Zero will cause.
We wonder if THIS will at last be what sinks him below 39% in the approval polls.
We’ve been waiting for that to happen for some time, and this Victory Mosque added to the disgust most people feel towards Michelle Antoinette’s lavish European spending spree might just be what does it.
What think you?
John Bolton claims Israel has just THREE DAYS left to hit Iranian reactor — meanwhile Obama waxes poetically on Islam's right to have nuclear weapons
Israel has only three days left to hit the Bushehr nuclear plant before it comes on line and becomes too dangerous of a target.
Somewhere in the White House, the current American president is ululating and praising Allah.
“This is the change I believe in”, we imagine him saying. “At last Islam will have nuclear capabilities”.
Bolton says Obama refuses to hit the plant and stop Iran. We imagine the White House will do everything it can to hamper Israel’s efforts to protect and defend itself.
Every fool who sat home in 2008 because they thought McCain was not “conservative enough” or who was stupid enough to buy into the Media’s hype about Obama being a “Lightbringer” and “The One” is responsible for a nuclear Iran…just three days away now.
Elections have consequences.
Terrible, terrible, consequences.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton as Secretary of Defense?
This was a brief blurb in something we read yesterday, in another of those articles talking about Hillary Clinton rescuing Obama in 2012 by agreeing to replace Joe Biden as Vice President.
We don’t think she would do that, because we think she’d see the writing on the wall and would know that Democrats are going to lose the White House in 2012 with Obama at the top of the ticket no matter who is his VP. We got to see Clinton up close and personal at least once a week for a stretch in 2008. We saw her backstage, talking with friends, without her stage persona…just being herself. She is not ego-driven. She does not buy into hype or puffery. We do not believe this woman could be convinced that she’s the magical savior of the Democrat party and the only hope of keeping the White House.
We believe she is smart enough not to become a scapegoat for Democrats in search of a reason to blame Dr. Utopia’s loss on anyone but Utopia himself. ”He should have stuck with Biden!” ”If Hillary wasn’t on the ticket, he would have won!”. ”Obama 2016!”
Nonsense.
And though we never imagined we’d reach this juncture, we do have to say that we’d have to part ways with Hillary Clinton if she did decide to try to rescue Obama. We believe this “president” is the worst this country has ever had and his policies are ripping our nation apart at the seams. We respect, admire, and love Hillary Clinton with all our hearts…and we can’t ever imagine her doing anything that would harm this country. For her to leverage herself to give Obama another four years to create more chaos and havoc and thwart the Constitution would be something we’d never forgive her for. It would be like watching a favorite aunt grab the keys to a giant Oldsmobile and put them into the hands of a drunk, coked-out, lunatic…knowing there are kids playing near the street and all manner of people that will be hurt because she helped this fool get behind the wheel.
Love the woman. Would do just about anything for her. But we will never help her become Obama’s VP so that she can give him that second term we know he’d use to crash the country.
Not going to happen.
But, the Lamestream Media is recently obsessed with this idea (which must make Joe Biden feel about three inches tall, which is funny to us)…and that’s been made all the more interesting by Robert Gates’ decision to retire in 2011.
We’ve had a feeling for a while that Hillary Clinton would also be resigning as Secretary of State in 2011, or even in 2010, after the Democrats’ massive losses in the November elections. The article we read this week floated an idea that Clinton would take over for Gates and become the first female Secretary of Defense.
That’s an interesting idea for Clinton for several reasons.
It would give her another life “first”:
* first First Lady elected to office
* first Former First Lady to run for president
* first woman to win a primary
* the person to get more votes than anyone else in history in a presidential nominating contest
* first Former First Lady to become Secretary of State
* first female Secretary of Defense?
That sure would bolster her in another run for the White House. Not only would she have legislative experience from the Senate, political experience from running her three campaigns, and foreign policy experience being Secretary of State, but she’d then have military experience as well.
She’d also deliver yet another hammer swing to the glass ceiling, because having a female Secretary of Defense ranks not too far below having a female Commander in Chief.
If Clinton doesn’t believe it’s meant for her to become the first female president, after the DNC took that from her in 2008, maybe she sees her path as the woman who does everything possible to make it seem normal and ordinary to have a female president.
She’s the trailblazer that will deliver us the first female president, even if she doesn’t get to be that woman herself.
It’s tragic if things work out that way, because Hillary Clinton deserves the honor, but the DNC just had to have Dr. Utopia in office…and look where that’s gotten us.
Generals and military figures have long admired Hillary Clinton, and during the campaign many of them came out to support her. Gates and others have been impressed with her working relationships with them and we think she’d make an excellent Secretary of Defense…possibly continuing her tenure, as Gates did, into the next administration as well.
President Palin and Secretary Clinton would have a great working relationship together, too, we bet…even if Clinton decides to resign sometime in 2014 or so to mount a challenge to Palin for the presidency.
Perhaps this is how the future will play out…or perhaps it’s just more nonsense stirred up by the press…but this scenario certainly is interesting.
QUESTION: Who are the Top Five Democrat Senators to tie to the Ground Zero Victory Mosque?
The Ground Zero Victory Mosque is political napalm for Democrats.
If a Democrat Senator comes out in favor of building an Islamic symbol of conquest at Ground Zero, that Senator will be toast in the elections ahead.
If a Democrat Senator does not support Dr. Utopia, our illustrious current “president”, and the DNC in backing this Ground Zero Victory Mosque, then that Democrat risks the eternal ire of the lunatic Left, which wants to see this mosque built.
The only way Democrats emerge from this mess unscathed is if they are allowed to remain silent on it.
THUS, it’s imperative we get every Democrat in office — and every Democrat running for office — on the record one way or the other on this Ground Zero Victory Mosque.
We want to focus on the Senate first, and would like to zero in on five Democrats currently in office and make them weigh in on this.
Here’s who we want to focus on so far:
(1) Kirsten Gillibrand
(2) Chuck Schumer
(3) Claire McCaskill
(4) Ben Nelson
(5) Russ Feingold
Gillibrand and Schumer are no-brainers (in more ways than one) because they represent New York. It will be impossible for them to dodge a question about something happening in their own state.
Claire McCaskill is one of the worst Senators ever in office and we want to do everything we can to set the stage for her defeat in 2012. She’s a loud cheerleader of everything the current “president” does, and even briefly served as his personal flight attendant on his campaign plane back in 2008. She doesn’t make decisions for herself, but instead allows her children — by her own admission — to “bug her” into doing whatever they want her to do. Recently, McCaskill received a serious smackdown when the voters of Missouri rejected Obamacare’s forced purchase of insurance (which is unconstitutional). Her response was to say, “Message received”. Let’s see how well she was listening, because we can’t imagine the people of Missouri want a Ground Zero Victory Mosque built. ClareBear needs to weigh in on this…because either she’ll back Obama again and seal her own doom in the next election, or she’ll do what the people of Missouri want (for a change) and anger the Left so that they won’t be there to help her with any ACORN shenanigans when she’ll need them most. Either way, it’s a great trap to place McCaskill in.
Ben Nelson has been trying to curry favor with Nebraskans since he prostituted himself back in December for the Obamacare bill. It’s not working, but the low-rent hooker keeps trying. This is another opportunity for Nelson to speak out against the White House and the DNC, and he’s vulnerable enough to force him to do it. Though, for enough money, he’ll do just about anything, really.
Russ Feingold is vulnerable this year and it would be wonderful to remove him from the Senate. We can’t imagine Wisconsin voters wanting a Ground Zero Victory Mosque, no matter how many loons they send to Washington to represent them. This could be a great campaign issue to lob against Feingold. If the DNC starts losing the support of people like him, then we can’t imagine how the Ground Zero Victory Mosque is going to proceed…not if we can flip enough Dems and then push for some sort of legislation to take the property in question away from the radicals who are pursuing this project and come up with an eminent domain solution for something else to be built there in its stead.
Who else should be targeted and why?
Sometimes with things like this, some of you out there don’t see the bigger picture. Targeting these Dems isn’t just about stopping the Ground Zero Victory Mosque. It’s going to take many fronts to do that, and it will be the sum of many efforts that wins in the end.
No, this is about politically damaging bad people who don’t belong in office — and painting them into unwinnable corners where whatever they say or do is going to hurt them in some way. We said before that on December 24th, 2009 every last Democrat in the Senate forfeiting her or his right to be in office because they all voted for Obamacare without even reading it, let alone understanding it. Every last one of these clowns needs to go…and this issue is emotionally charged enough to cut through a great deal of blind party voting and muscle memory on the part of a great many Americans to get them to finally stop pulling levers for these people.
Not a single Democrat should be allowed to remain silent on this matter.
They’re running Washington, flying solo, with this mess unfolding and they all need to take responsibility for it getting this far.
