We sincerely mean this, when we ask all of you daily readers — including those that have never commented before, or who do so infrequently — to chime in on this thread and give us your input and advice on something that is literally making us sick to our stomachs.
All day yesterday, we realized that we need to confront someone here in Chicago that we like very much and have respected more than few others. This person is Illinois GOP Chair Pat Brady, whom we got to know well through the 2008 campaign, and whom we absolutely think the world of. We can’t think of a day we cheered LOUDER and LONGER than the day we heard Brady had replaced Andy McKenna as the IL GOP Chair.
FINALLY, we thought, we’ve got someone who will do the right thing, won’t play games, and will make it his mission to clean up the corruption in this state.
FINALLY, we’ve got a guy at the helm we believe in, who will kick Republicans into shape the way Sarah Palin did in Alaska, when she cracked skulls and went after the All Boys Club.
So, we hope you can appreciate the gut-wrenching chagrin we’ve felt in the last few days as it’s become increasingly clear that Pat Brady — a personal hero — has been protecting Lee Roupas in the Cook County GOP. Brady could fire him today if he wanted. IF he wanted.
We’re working on one of the hardest essays we’ve ever had to write, about everything we’ve gotten confirmed in terms of what Brady’s been hiding for Roupas, and how Brady’s been strategizing with other Romney and Kirk guys in the GOP higher-ups to make the current GOP scandal here in Chicago fade from the headlines for a while…let the dust settle…and then resume open war with the truthtellers in this matter after November.
We’re being told — and it’s being confirmed from independent sources — that the aim is to protect Lee Roupas at all costs, make sure he keeps his job, and also to give “The Prophet” a lucrative consulting gig (funded by multimillionaire cougar Beth Christie, of course) that will pay him as much, if not more, than he was making as the $4,000/month Cook County Executive Director.
If all of this is true, then Brady’s in on the corruption in this state — and that horrifies us.
He is either the most brilliant actor who never took to the stage, or we let this man cast one Hell of a spell on us, because we just can’t imagine he would knowingly enable someone like Lee Roupas to retain his high-paying position, representing Republicans, after all the things Roupas as done to disgrace the party.
We just can’t tolerate this Old/All Boys’ Club nonsense. In corporate America. In politics. Wherever.
Just because someone has a penis does not mean that person can lie, engage in coverups, and carry on any way he damn well pleases…and expect to be protected and rescued the way Lee Roupas does.
It’s not right.
It’s not how America should be.
It’s not what voters in Illinois want, after seeing Democrat corruption go unchecked for so long.
Lee Roupas is the Cook County Charlie Rangle…and if Pat Brady is protecting him, then Pat Brady needs to be taken to the woodshed too.
And that’s devastating for us to have to admit.
So, we need two things from you this morning:
(1) We need you to pray for us, so that we have the wisdom and the guidance and the strength to do what we need to do here, because we’ll be damned if we allow Lee Roupas to get away with lying, covering up scandal, and declaring open war on Eloise Gerson for attempting to launch an investigation into the bizarre dealings of the Illinois GOP
(2) We need you to PLEASE think about a time when you had to confront someone you had great respect for, and tell that person they disappointed you, that they were wrong, and that they needed to step back and look at things differently to avoid making a horrible mistake
We’ve had to confront friends with drinking and drug problems who were ruining their lives — and to intervene and make sure they saw just how bad what they were doing looked.
Now, we find ourselves in a position of having to criticize a person we have utmost respect for, whom we believe to be a very good man…but who is allowing multimillionaire cougar Beth Christie (and her neverending threats of cutting off her donation stream, should she ever stop getting what she wants) to force him to protect Lee Roupas, save his job, and make sure “The Prophet” scores a golden parachute that lets him maintain the presidency of the CYR organization, and command a large “consulting” fee from the GOP that will in fact be more than he’s making now as the Executive Director.
We don’t seem to have quite the right words to describe what we think of Beth Christie, and how she’s bringing down the GOP in Illinois with her demands and money games, so maybe YOU could help us by telling us what YOU think of a woman who uses her vast fortune to cause such chaos — seemingly for her own personal amusement.
It’s frustrating because Pat Brady made us believe that the Republican Party REALLY COULD ultimately become what it claims it wants to stand for. We thought he’d be cracking skulls and getting things done…but, pardon the French, all he seems to be doing is kissing Beth Christie’s sorry cougar ass.
It’s no secret Brady as GOP State Chair is desperate for donations…but surely other large donors could step forward and provide whatever Beth Christie’s been giving to cause the damage she’s been doing to the party.
SURELY one woman can’t tank the entire state, just because she thinks she’s Jennifer Coolidge in an American Pie movie, and she’s excellent at signing her name to checks with large numbers on them.
Please be frank about your experiences in similar situations to ours. This is one of the most difficult things we’ve ever faced, because loyalty is one of the most important things to us…but loyalty to this country trumps personal loyalty to individuals…even to people we like as much as Pat Brady.
SOMEONE at GOP national has to put a stop to Beth Christie’s chaos spree. SOMEONE at GOP national has to fire Lee Roupas and install a Cook County Chair who can clean up this mess and crack some skulls.
We want that someone to be Pat Brady, because we know he has it in him.
We need your help understanding a time when YOU personally had to push someone you respect towards the right decision, even if powerful forces (of the cougar or non-cougar variety) were pushing him in the opposite direction.
Please help…the future of Illinois largely depends on this.
July 29, 2010 at 2:43 am
Call him out… Er, actually I think you just did.
Anyway, ask him to do the right thing. If he doesn’t, he isn’t who you thought he was and he should be shown the door like every other politician in Illinois that has let that state go south.
July 29, 2010 at 3:03 am
The time for lost words is over guyz. Things in America are becoming critical. I don’t know who or what to believe anymore. Rush, FOX, CNN, Hannity, C4P, GOP, TEA partiers, this candidate, that candidate, the Governor, the POTUS, liberals, this blog, that blog,conservatives, the Book, the judiciary, the congress, etc, etc.
Lately all I’m finding comfort in is Lame Cherry and Tammy Bruce. (wierd, uh) I really respect this site, thus you guyz. It’s time to make a STAND!!!!
These following lines have been with me for many years. I’ve recently found out they are lines from a gospel song. Go figure.
“What do you do when you’ve done all you can, and it’s seems like it’s never enough.”
“What do you give when you’ve given your all, and it seem like you can’t make it through?”
“You just STAND!”
Go and see Pat Brady
July 29, 2010 at 9:08 am
Having read through the comments below here I see that he general theme is “Go and see Pat Brady”. This is very good advice. From experience you can not plan this meeting in detail so be prepared for twists and turns.
There is a tendency in major league politics to hide these little “issues” and hope they will just go away. Sometimes it helps the decision makers make the correct decision when they learn that the story is already out on the street. This will be on the front page of the Trib above the fold in October if not dealt with now. The electorate has a short memory so taking the hit in July is fare superior to taking the hit this fall, you would think that they should have learned this by now.
July 29, 2010 at 3:03 am
Boyz
I feel your pain. I really do. That gut-wrenching feeling won’t go away anytime soon unfortunately but be comforted in the knowledge that honor is often the bearer of decidely uncomfortable feelings.
The person who needs to be taken to the woodshed in reality is Cougar Christie. I’m not excusing Pat Brady and not to be sexist in the slightest but men often are not quite as able as women to see that someone (generally a woman) is playing them “seemingly for her own personal amusement”.
Having said that, thank you for standing up to be counted. Your integrity is very admirable and so welcome.
You are all in my prayers as you do what you must to clean house.
July 29, 2010 at 3:05 am
And I agree with Ernst. Go and see Pat Brady.
July 29, 2010 at 4:45 am
Having said that, thank you for standing up to be counted. Your integrity is very admirable and so welcome.
Hear, Hear! Guys, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, your honesty is inspiring.
…and yes, I have had to do this on a professional level, as well. As a Tower Supervisor (ATC) in the Marine Corps, I had to evaluate the job competency of a very, very good friend of mine. He wasn’t cutting the mustard, shall we say. I had no choice, but to honestly recommend that he be washed out of the MOS before he ran two aircraft together.
It was the hardest thing this ol’ Jarhead had ever had to do up to that time. In a way, I hated myself for doing it even though the action was the correct one. One of those growing up moments, I suppose.
In the end, the honest and responsible route always leads to the best conclusions. He went to a new MOS, on the same duty station, and was promoted soon thereafter.
July 29, 2010 at 3:15 am
You have given him many opportunities to take action. We know the consequences if a political party is populated with those who tolerate such bad behavior. Current Times require special courage. Be strong. You will do what is right.
July 29, 2010 at 3:57 am
Dear Boyz,
I don’t know if this will post or not, this is a first time try for me …
but your pain called out to mine, and a “lurker” is trying now to
“convert” to a poster and participant. I have a similar situation in my
life … not as public, or as significant … but also making me sick to
my stomach … I can only agree with what has already been said in this
thread .. and add, youmust pray, pray, pray … and then do as you know
you must … we are all with you, and behind you … as are all the
amazing sisters, nuns, priests, and courageous others in each and all of
our respective lives … heck, our founding fathers are with you …each
and every one of us… as we engage in this battle… remember always,
“hate the sin, love the sinner” … speak the truth … be not afraid, and
know that we are all behind you, praying, helping, struggling for the same
Cause … this Great and Wonderful Country +++
July 29, 2010 at 7:49 am
Beautifully said =)
July 31, 2010 at 9:13 pm
agree with Bev ….. and love your avatar
July 29, 2010 at 4:50 am
I know you will do the right thing, and I’m praying for y’all.
July 29, 2010 at 5:01 am
One of the sickening discoveries about realizing we have been deliberately deceived, particularly by an individual (as opposed to a group or event) is having to come to the realization that they have already invested so very much in the act of deception that it is really quite unlikely we will be able to “turn them” in another direction.
I truly don’t know of anything more devastating than deliberate deception.
Some years ago, I realized that the only way to save wear and tear on my own psyche and sanity was to (as quickly as possible) accept the new information that I now have about the person. At the point that the deception was exposed, I learned:
1. They were capable of something I did not know they were capable of.
2. The deception was intentional; it was not accidental.
3. The fact that they deceived me is not a commentary on me; it’s a commentary on them.
4. Now I act on the same situation with new information and, therefore, my actions will be very different than they were before I had identified the deception.
5. To my benefit, the deceiver(s) are now the ones who will now learn something they didn’t know about me: I will not be their toy. They will not control me. I will now assert what I know to be true and that changes the game immediately.
6. I will no longer use them as a primary source of information in interpreting events in which they are involved.
Being deceived is truly what a friend of mine called crazy-making.
Your decisions actually are pretty much made already and are right on. Just try to keep the stomach butterflies flying in formation as you walk out the principled decisions you made some time ago.
July 29, 2010 at 9:59 am
Amen to everything Emma says here.
I had an employee/friend who deceived me into thinking she had cancer. Many prayers and thousands of dollars later, I found out that it was all a hoax.
It took two months, but I got her out of my business and out of my life. And, still, I would have moments of despair that I wouldn’t have her as a friend anymore. She never had been a friend, but the emotional ties were there and it was quite a while before that part of it went away.
July 29, 2010 at 12:22 pm
YES!
July 31, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Emma, that was beautifully and succinctly said. Thank you for making it so clear.
July 29, 2010 at 5:06 am
One more thought: this is something that you use to make your decisions, but it occurs to me that Pat Brady might also be in the throes of trying to figure out just how deceived he is; who deceived him; what did they promise him; what did they deceive him about….he may be as in over his head and oblameya is these days, and may be in an experience himself of having totally lost his bearings….and whoever needs to get the hook and get him off stage is distracted with something in Arizona or whatever.
That’s no excuse for him….but he may be in a personal, dysfunctional meltdown.
Y’know who apparently doesn’t even HAVE a meltdown point? Blagoyovich! That guy is TOUGH.
July 29, 2010 at 5:07 am
I meant….this is something that you DON’T have to use to make your decision……..
July 29, 2010 at 5:24 am
I’ve had to do this on a professional level. It was not easy and it won’t be easy for you. But I believe that if you truly respect someone, you have to hold them accountable. You could hold them acountable from afar and anonymously, but that’s cowardly and certainly not your style. If you don’t confront him, then you have to ask how genuine your regard for him was in the first place. Give him the chance to live up to your expectations. If he’s the person you think he is, then he will appreciate that you think enough of him to hold him to a higher standard. If not, then you’ve learned something.
In these situations, I always ask myself “How would I want to be treated?” I suspect if the tables were turned, you would want to be confronted. Give him the same respect you would want shown to you.
July 29, 2010 at 8:37 am
Great and short comment that I wish I would have said. I totally concur!
July 29, 2010 at 10:06 am
As it turns out my long answer got sucked into a parallel universe anyway, so I’m glad you made my point more sussinctly (sp?) anyway! LOL
July 29, 2010 at 6:18 pm
totally agree – well said, AFinch
July 29, 2010 at 6:10 am
The following is a quote from part of the speech by Clarence Thomas, that was on Hillbuzz recently. “I am going to speak more broadly tonight—as a citizen who believes in a civil society, and who is concerned because too many show timidity today precisely
when courage is demanded”. So, you have your answer from a brilliant man who has “suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”, or in his case, and Hillbuzz’s as well, the Oppressive/Progressives. My guess is that your letter will be appreciated. Go for it.
July 29, 2010 at 6:18 am
I think you guys have handled this whole thing very well from the very beginning. I would only say I think you’ve misread Pat Brady a bit. I think you’ve only seen one side of him.
I and others see little difference between Andy McKenna and Pat Brady, other than McKenna was a big wimp. Brady is a hot head and more of a fighter (literally). But both are about as dishonest. And like McKenna, Brady is doing nothing to truly rebuild the IL GOP. Any gains this year for the GOP in Illinois will just be thanks to a rising national tide for the GOP. If the GOP wins back some ground here this year it’s going to be more IN SPITE of Pat Brady, than anything he did positive.
Bottom line, don’t let Pat Brady take advantage of your good nature and desire not to be disillustioned about the guy. Because he’s not on the side of the good guys in this.
I’ve been told by some GOP committeemen in Cook that Roupas is telling them he’s not worried at all because Pat Brady is behind him and sticking with him. I definitely think that’s true.
Seems to me our goal has to be to change that dynamic and that won’t happen by giving Pat Brady a pass.
July 29, 2010 at 7:24 am
Illinois politico, thanks for adding your input.
I was hoping you’d weigh in, now that the Boyz are down to the ‘…. or get off the pot’ phase in this mess.
You’ve obviously got a better vantage point than the rest of us, so I’m sure the Boyz will appreciate your input.
I think a lot of the Boyz’ angst is due to the fact that they’re NOT hardboiled political types with no shame, used to the rough-and-tumble and backstabbing that is status quo in that world. They’re sweet, creative types who had their fate thrust upon them, without the long knives and other tools that are standard equipment. They’re literally babes in the woods with no GPS.
The fact that they are such kind, trusting souls themselves makes it very difficult to grasp that others (especially the ones they thought they knew) are conniving, self-serving, ruthless thugs, just out for money and power.
Boyz, you know what you have to do. Many of us have ‘been there’.
It ain’t easy, but it’s the right thing to do.
July 29, 2010 at 8:06 am
Illinois politico, I’m glad you’ve weighed in on this.
You have a perspective the rest of us don’t and I’m sure the Boyz are following your input.
It’s obvious to a ‘disinterested bystander’ that Brady’s as dirty as anybody in this whole affair.
I think the Boyz’ angst is due to the fact that they’re sweet, trusting guys who just had this ‘fate’ thrust upon them and (understandably) can’t get their heads around the fact that people like Pat Brady are NOT what they seem.
Sadly, as the Boyz speculate, they’re actors…putting on a show, seeming to be what they are not…all in the interest of getting what they want, which always boils down to money and power.
Boyz’, Brady sucked you in…it’s what politicians DO.
Don’t feel badly…you’re not the first and you certainly won’t be the last.
Go and confront him. Sadly, I don’t think there’s a hope in hell that he will do anything.
In that case, blow this thing wide open. Think of it as ‘practice’ for the other battles ahead.
As you can see, many of us have ‘been there’. It ain’t easy…but it’s right.
July 29, 2010 at 8:45 am
Oh, NOOOOOO!
Damn mediation gremlin got me again.
Grrrrrrrrrr!
(I did wait for what I thought was a ‘safe’ interval before re-posting.)
July 29, 2010 at 10:04 am
When my post disappeared, a comparatively MILD opinion in a thread that was discussing sex (and even deviancy), the mediation gremlin wouldn’t let me re-post. I kept getting a reply saying, “You have already posted.” It didn’t even help to modify it some. My comment was still recognized, and spit right back out at me. Apparently, MG has changed its mind now, and is happy to post our comments twice. From your reaction, you don’t seem to feel that’s any improvement! 8-)
July 29, 2010 at 10:23 am
Susan, I don’t even bother to click on the ‘Submit Comment’ a second time because I’ve gotten that message, too.
But, usually if it’s going to post, in my experience, it usually does so in ten minutes or so.
Not that there’s any consistency, evidently.
July 29, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Politico this time you have it right. The dynamic has to change if one is going to root out corruption.
July 29, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Aussie, I’m recording this date on my calendar! LOL
July 31, 2010 at 9:19 pm
too funny – but I agree, that is high praise and a date to record!
July 29, 2010 at 6:26 am
Boyz- The Truth shall set you free!
July 29, 2010 at 6:27 am
Boyz,
I’m praying for you. I’ve had to do this in my personal life, with someone I once counted a close, close friend. It felt like I was tearing my heart out with a rusty spoon, because this person was prideful and stubborn, and merrily skipping down a very, very bad path. I knew I had to confront her, to tell her what she was doing, not only to herself but also those around her– but I also pretty much knew what her response would be. I knew it wasn’t going to go well, but I had to confront her because I wasn’t going to be one of those “people who saw what was happening and did nothing.” It really hurt. All these years later, it still hurts. But it needed doing, like lancing an infected wound. It’s nasty, painful, disgusting, and completely unpleasant– but it needs doing.
So I’m praying for strength and wisdom, on everyone’s behalf. It may be that Mr. Brady is himself lost and confused. Maybe not. I pray he responds well, but whether he does or not, you gotta do what you gotta do.
((hugs))
July 29, 2010 at 6:33 am
Boyz,
Think about it. Having to read the riot act to Brady after what you guys have been through is really anticlimactic. You have already been through hell. You thought Hillary Clinton walked on water. You have been disappointed that she didn’t have anything to say to her fellow democrats about the scam they pulled off on Christmas Eve. Hillary had clout with them because she was a member of the senate. She could have spoken to some of her colleagues and told them that honest adults just don’t act this way and she didn’t. She let you down. You still love her but she let you down. You already know what you would say to Hillary if you encountered her don’t you? You wouldn’t be mean in questioning her. She was your champ. So, in my humble opinion, you’ve already been there done that. You like this dude but, nowhere near as much as you still love your champ. You can do this, I know you can. Just talk to the adult in the room not the sniveling adolescent.
You Boyz are princes among men. I imagine it is an honor to know you guys and a privilege you call you friends.
July 29, 2010 at 6:50 am
and a privilege to call you friends.
July 29, 2010 at 6:35 am
Boyz, I don’t usually comment, but I read Hillbuzz every day, and I will be praying for you. I’ve lived in Illinois for years, and I know it’s a real mess politically, and I’m glad you’re doing something about it. I’m proud to “know” you guys.
July 29, 2010 at 6:46 am
How well do you know this Brady? That is, can you personally go into his presence and talk to him at any length? If so, will he sit still for it? Since he must, by now, know what you think, why should he? If not, how will you call him out? Do you have access to any medium that will provide a large bullhorn? Do you have access to a larger audience than us? (How large are we?) We will do anything you ask of us – write to him, or anybody else, to back you up – vote, where eligible, for whoever you say is most honest – raise hell in other media.
I believe, and am sure everybody here will concur, that you guyz have no hidden agenda of your own, but simply WANT THE COUNTRY BACK. This gives you the most powerful clout possible against the Bogus Boys.
Smite them! Smite them hip and thigh! We’re with you, and thanks to you and the Internet, we can now show these bozos what term limits mean.
July 29, 2010 at 7:00 am
I have had to give performance evaluations to subordinates who have given poor performances. It’s worse when you have to do that in a language that has a formal and informal way of speaking to people (informal “you” ["Du" in German] and formal “you” ["Sie" in German]) and you are on an informal basis with the colleague. Formal “you” at least has the advantage of linguistic distance if you have to give bad news.
Still, nothing works better at getting across your bad news that saying it quickly, succinctly, and finally. I found that starting with “One aspect of a my job is to give feedback on your performance, whether it’s good or bad. Today I have to tell you that your performance has been lacking in . . . .”
In your case, I can imagine something like this being said: “With regard to protecting Lee, I am vastly disappointed. It is not a matter of politics. It is a matter of character: his and yours. Your active cover-up of Lee’s poor leadership is shameful. It damages the party, damages decent Republicans who will tainted by this inexcusable behavior, and sets back our cause for the benefit of Democrats. Do the decent thing and fire Lee, and then resign your position right after.”
July 29, 2010 at 9:46 am
ZM:
You gave a great way to open the conversation.
Boyz, you’ve already done the hardest thing in your life – breaking from all that you’ve known – for some of you in your personal lives, and for all of you in your political lives. The character you’ve shown up to this point will serve you well in dealing with this situation.
I serve on a schoolboard in Pennsylvania. The Superintendent was leaving, and we thought he had done a money grab at the end (not so). I had to address the situation in an executive meeting to smooth over the animosity between he and the board. I knew he would be mad at some things I brought up, but the air needed to be cleared. I had always been a strong supporter of this man. He knew I was speaking from my heart, and not out to get him. I had the courage to speak of it because I knew the other board members supported me, and needed this to be discussed. I didn’t want to hurt the Superintendent, but I serve to do what’s right for the students. I had to put my friendship with this man aside, and deal with issues that were uncomfortable at best.
You know you are in the position you are in to help Illinois, and ultimately the country during this power grab by the wrong people. Republicans need to know that their time of abusing the public trust is over as well. The Tea Parties aren’t just against the Democrats – they are against all corruption and abuse of power.
Glenn Beck has been amazing in seeking the truth. This quote is from his 5/25/10 TV show:
I’ve been telling you lately to stand in the truth. Because if you don’t, it’s only a matter of time before the truth finds you. Truth is a fire that eventually will consume everything else, so get yourself right and stand in the truth; then demand it from others and hold them accountable.
Hope those words can inspire you to see the man in question in person or at the very least write a letter demanding his action. Good luck, I will be praying for you.
July 29, 2010 at 7:09 am
You have my prayers boyz.
Just know this, he is in no way a reflection on you.
Wrong is wrong, it doesn’t matter what side it’s on.
If we want to put our beloved Country back on track, or maybe not back, but hit the reset button, we have to have honest dealings in ALL things. We have to have good men ask “what does the Constitution say about this?” “what does God say about this?” The right thing more often than not is not the easy thing.
I don’t understand Chicago politics, is the decisions that are made there made by asking what is the less of the two evils?
If this man seems reachable, pull him aside and ask him why. If he’s unreasonable after that then you would have been forced to bust him out.
July 29, 2010 at 7:21 am
The only similar situation I can think of being in is when I had to fight a surgeon at a prominant university. I was a lowly secretary…worked my buns off for this group of neurosurgeons. If you want to know the definition of elitist let me tell you, they were it. The chairman was just too much. He was so hated a resident who had gotten “fired” came back and tried to kill him by injecting him with a syringe of poison dressed in a wig in the garage (true story). It was like working in an episode of Dynasty.
We had hired a temp worker, this guy who was absolutely LOVED by the group of secretaries because he would come to each one of our cubicles and say “What do you need done?” and he’d grab files and file them, run errands, do whatever it was we needed done that he could do to help catch us up. He’d make coffee and go get lunches and answer phones…he was priceless to us. One day this neurosurgeon who was a total jerk who we all hated, and who thought he was God’s gift to the world decided that our friend was too affemininate and “gay” (this was in 1994) and “he is not the image we should be showing for the department” and he was “let go”. We were so ticked off. I quit. But before I quit I went to the Chairman of Surgery for the entire medical center and told him WHY I quit. Back then I had no chance in heck of winning but I did find out later that they shook up the Dept. and a lot of changes were made so I at least left an impression.
I knew I would lose but it wasn’t about winning or losing. It was the principal of the thing. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. If you do not stand up for your principals then you are just part of the problem. No example or situation is too small. If people do not stand up (respectfully) and point out those who are doing these things then they will just continue to be corrupt.
July 29, 2010 at 7:25 am
Republicans have let the “good old boys” stay in power too long. An ethical, moral person would not have to debate or considering protecting Lee Roupas. By delaying immediate action, Pat Brady has already shown the quality of his character.
Unload on him with both barrels and hope you can score some collateral damage on the rest of the corrupt organization. There are surely good people waiting in the wings to rebuild the party on sound conservative principles.
July 29, 2010 at 7:32 am
I think it’s the “Eleventh Commandment”, popularly attributed to Reagan, which holds people back – sometimes with justification, sometimes without.
“Thou shalt never criticise a fellow conservative publicly or in areas that as as good as public.”
I think the rationale is that your opponents will then use you to further kneecap conservatives.
It’s a genuine fear, and it’s being exploited in this case, and it’s going to kneecap the GOP – and most likely conservatives in general.
July 29, 2010 at 10:17 am
I don’t agree.
I think the Democrats have done so much evil these past four years this pales in comparison. Politics is corrupt…for sure. It always has been and always will be. Our founding fathers knew this and it is why they wrote the Constitution the way they did…to limit the power of government. To give power to the people instead of government. It’s the basis of the entire Tea Party movement…getting power away from government.
To assume we can clean out any party of corruption is naive but it would be wrong to not point it out when we do see it. We cannot ignore what we do know. We cannot turn away just because we are conservative for “the good of the party” because it is NOT good for the party to turn away.
I would rather WE expose it than the Democrats expose it in October.
July 29, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Oh, I agree with you. It’s just that the Eleventh Commandment, while useful a lot of the time, is something that’s holding them back in this case. That fear that the left will use any self criticism for their own nefarious ends stops them taking the responsible measures and makes everything far worse later.
I’m trying to explain and understand, not justify it.
July 29, 2010 at 7:40 am
One time I had a boyfriend open up a credit card in my name and run up thousands of dollars. When I found out, I was furious, but not having the courage or will or willingness to end the relationship I tried to work out a repayment plan and be forgiving. I guess I wanted to salvage the relationship and my credit and have it all. This went on for months, maybe over a year. Think it worked?
Heck no.
Finally, after the relationship ended, and I was tired of begging and pleading and hoping things would go away, I got tough. Something in me changed and he knew it. No doubts about it. I guess men can sense it when someone finally decides to stop being a doormat. For the first time, he knew I was serious. He would to jail if I followed through, and almost immediately, he got a check from daddy for the payoff. (Of course he did not have it himself)
Looking back, that was the worst slime I ever dated, and praise God that relationship ended when it did. I can not understand HOW I was so deceived but I was, or WHY on earth I put up with that crap for so long. Praise God I’m a different person now, but don’t think that lesson hasn’t stuck.
So I would say, don’t push aside that sick feeling you have – it is spurring you to action. You will feel better about yourselves and free your conscience if you confront the guy, but only if you do it in a way that you have no regrets. To me that means personally, cordially if possible, but with a steel resolve so he has no doubts you mean business and won’t put up with deception. And you will have a chance to really see what he’s made of in how he reacts to you – that is kind of what you want to know on some level anyway, I suspect.
July 29, 2010 at 7:55 am
I don’t like asking this question, but I have thought about it a number of times. How much of this scandal is essentially a Chicago problem, unrelated to the rest of the GOP in Illinois?
I am very active in a county GOP party in Downstate Illinois. I haven’t heard word one about it. I even asked a colleague in the party who tends to know the scuttlebutt. He knew nothing.
I mean disrespect. I just wonder what it means in the bigger picture.
July 29, 2010 at 9:10 am
I meant to say “I mean NO disrespect.” Sorry. Sometimes my fingers don’t catch up to my thoughts.
July 29, 2010 at 9:10 am
I mean NO disrespect. Sorry.
July 29, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Well I would say it’s a pretty big deal. First of all, it definitely does involve the state gop. Maybe didn’t at first, but definitely does now.
Also, pretty difficult for any Republican to win statewide unless they do better in Cook. Some may be surprised to learn Cook has many, many more Republicans than any other IL county, by far. Over twice as many as DuPage even. That’s just because there are so many people with Chicago. So even 30 or 35% of the total means a lot of Republicans.
Point is that # has to get better than 30 or 35%. Won’t happen if the Cook GOP and Chicago GOP stay broken. And lies and coverups make it pretty hard to get new recruits and to motivate volunteers.
July 29, 2010 at 7:56 am
Boyz I am putting you on the prayer list. There are many out here who look up to you, who admire your leadership and who laugh their rear ends off everyday reading you! God bless!
July 29, 2010 at 8:04 am
What I am seeing in all of the comments is a common thread when dealing with a friend who has gone to the dark side: “My integrity is worth more than our friendship.”
‘nuf said.
July 29, 2010 at 8:11 am
I’m not politically astute, but might it not be a good idea to offer to help Brady with his problem? If his big fear is, as you suggest, that Beth Christie will pull her money, would you be able to round up any alternative donors or methods of fundraising? That would put him in the difficult position of having to turn down an offer of help, basically admitting that he will protect his cronies regardless of the consequences.
July 29, 2010 at 8:43 am
Good idea!
July 29, 2010 at 9:58 am
miss kitty, sorry but I can’t agree.
It’s not in the Boyz’ best interest to be fundraising for this vipers den.
July 29, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I meant that any fundraising help should only be given on condition that Roupas gets fired and Brady cleans house.
July 29, 2010 at 5:30 pm
You mean a ‘quid pro quo’?
That’s even worse.
July 29, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Bijou:
Not really. Offering to help find alternative streams of funding is saying to Brady:` we appreciate your problem: losing a major donor is never a positive thing. But in trying to stave off the loss of Beth Christie, you’re creating a much bigger problem, by alienating a lot of people who would otherwise have supported your party. We can help you deal with one problem if you accept that you’re going to have to deal with the other one as well.’
At least that’s how it seems to me.
July 29, 2010 at 5:58 pm
I should add that offering `help’ as opposed to delivering an ultimatum might serve to reduce the hostility level in the room.Threats should be a last resort.
July 29, 2010 at 10:44 pm
I have to agree with Bijou here. If a state chairman who allows himself to be shaken down or extorted (if that in fact is the case), that’s hardly a glowing endorsement for him.
July 30, 2010 at 8:23 am
For heaven’s sake, it’s not a shakedown! The boyz touched on the fact that a handful of big donors are in a position to hold both parties hostage because with no money you can’t run a political campaign. The sooner you figure out how to neutralize big donors, the sooner you solve problems like the Roupas thing.
July 29, 2010 at 8:16 am
Toughest advice situation I’ve been was in with a friend who was in long-running conflict with her husband. Friend tells me about the latest spat; I realize that she sincerely doesn’t see how she’s contributing to the problem.
Me: “You’re right, it wasn’t okay for husband to say that mean thing. But think about this from his point of view. From his perspective he was doing the right thing. He was just doing it his way and not the way you expected. Do you see why he really didn’t like being criticized for it?”
Friend: “!!!!” And to her credit, she really did pay attention and start changing her behavior.
So maybe tell it to him just like you told it to us: something like, “Pat, this is really hard for us to say, but we’ve got to say it.
“When we got to know you in 2008, we quickly grew to like and respect you. We liked the way you did X. When you showed integrity in Y, that really impressed us, especially after all the corruption we’ve seen in the Democratic machine.
“And that’s why we were so happy when you became the IL GOP chair — because we thought you’d be a good leader and a force for change.
“So we’re asking you to turn this around and look at this the way the voters see it. Do you really think that they’re going to think well of a party that protects a guy like Lee Roupas and keeps him around?
“What about your grassroots team? Are they going to be proud of their local GOP?
“And what about you? Do you want to be the kind of guy who protects someone like Roupas? For the promise of money??”
If Brady doesn’t see that somebody like Roupas can’t be kept around — and that a story like this is NOT going to go away — then he’s a fool.
Praying for your success.
July 29, 2010 at 11:37 am
Excellent! People can get so wrapped up in their own perceptions they cannot see what the rest of the world sees. Once someone forces them to step back, things will either change or that person will eventually get their due. It will be hard to predict what the person will do, but at least you will have an answer in short order and may be able to mitigate damage either way. Either “this person has done the right thing” or “stand back ’cause it’s on!”
July 29, 2010 at 8:34 am
Boyz,
The only question you have to ask yourselves is this: Can you live with yourselves if you DON’T call him out?
I saw this on a bumper sticker a couple of years ago, and it has always stuck with me:
“Courage is standing up and saying what you believe, even if your voice is shaking”
I know that it is hard, but you will never be able to forgive yourselves if you don’t do what is right – and you already know what that is in this situation.
You’re in our thoughts and prayers.
July 29, 2010 at 8:35 am
I promise I am going to read all the comments as I’m sure they are all good. Here is what I want to say…
1. NEVER put all your faith in any one man or woman. People will always let you down. Not that you shouldn’t trust anyone or anything, but just don’t be surprised when people fail you. Sarah Palin has made this point quite a few times that man is fallen…there is nothing you can do about it.
2. I will not make excuses for him, but you may want to try and figure out WHY he is taking the position he is…is it to protect his job, his reputation, his family? Sometimes people have reasons for doing things that we may not agree with but it at least helps to understand their motivations…are they just “fallen” or are they “evil”. Either way, they can’t be allowed to defraud others, but motive to me is an important factor on how to proceed.
3. You have to do what you feel is the right thing to do. Period. All you can do is tell Mr. Brady how highly regarded he is/was by you all, but that you can’t stand by and let him make a decision that is going to eventually hurt your state and WILL hurt the Republican party in the long run (and I’m sure his answer to number two would be something along the lines of protecting the Repub party). Who knows? Maybe you will guilt him into making the right decision. At the very least you are being open and honest about how disappointed and disillusioned you are with him. This will affect him…I’m sure of it.
Whatever happens, take comfort in knowing that you are doing what you know to be the right thing.
July 29, 2010 at 8:36 am
Yes, I have. So, since you asked, here’s my advice:
First, do what you think is right, but DIVORCE YOURSELF FROM THE OUTCOME. You may be told to take a hike, and you need to steel yourself for that.
July 29, 2010 at 8:55 am
I am not a fan of Pat Brady and do not think he is a great hero. He is one of the boys and he is protecting his boyz. Kick him out!
July 29, 2010 at 9:21 am
Not always easy to do but here it is:
“I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good thing, therefore, that I can do or any kindness I can show to any fellow human being let me do it now. Let me not defer nor neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again.” credited to have been said by Stephen Grellet, 1773-1855 (French born Quaker minister).
The opportunity is here and the time is now. Think about this, how will you feel next week if you don’t say/do something that you feel is right. Will you kick yourself and regret it later?
I wish we could confront all of the DNC and all the people who kicked Hillary under the bus but I guess that is not possible. This is your chance to possibly make things better here in Illinois. If not, at least you can know you tried. All of our prayers and love are with you HillBuzz.
July 29, 2010 at 9:23 am
Boyz, It’s got to be done. The reason that Democrats get elected is often that the clique at the top of the Republicans is only operating on self interest. In Colorado, it’s come to a head in the governor’s race. The old boy network gave us a choice between a lying weasel and a thief this year and now it looks like they’re ready to spend more to discredit Tancredo than to fight the Dems. They’ve never stepped up to back this straight talker, allowing the local and national press to keep re-defining his positions from radical to renegade to raaaacist. I think they’ll be real surprised when a lot of us vote the man instead of the party.
July 29, 2010 at 10:14 am
The GOP gave McInnis and the Tea party gave us Maes. The GOP forced Norton upon us and the Tea Party gave us Buck. I can’t stand the GOP; but voting for the man is actually voting for Hickenlooper which is even more vile than anything the GOP could put forth. The dems haven’t put anyone spectacular on the ballot in eons (and the GOP surely hasn’t either)but why do you think Dems are now in strong power in a once conservative state? Another 8 years of Dem rule in this state, and we are looking at becoming more of a CA than we’ve already become. El Paso county cannot continue to be only one of two conservative districts in the state. El Paso county is getting more and more of those God awful CA transplants
July 29, 2010 at 9:27 am
Hillbuzz guys-do what you do best and just keep telling the truth. Who is this Beth Christie and why is she making “house pets” out of these men? worse why are they allowing this to happen? Talk about your basic emasculating females. Man up Republican guys and do the right thing, she may respect you in the morning.
July 29, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Erm…Michelle…Beth Christie just has one boytoy and he swings both ways.
Her ‘enablers’ feel they can’t ‘man up’ because she’ll cut off their cash flow.
July 29, 2010 at 9:32 am
Living a life of integrity is many things, but it is not, as a general rule, “fun”. That is why so few people choose it anymore.
Remember your biographies of the saints from Catholic school. It isn’t just a sad coincidence that most of them were true martyrs. For the vast majority of human history, doing the right thing has led straight to the blade. And we know this. And we do the right thing anyway. THAT is what sets us apart. THAT is integrity.
July 29, 2010 at 9:38 am
The only time I have ever been faced with something like this was an intervention I had to facilitate when I found out my best friend was addicted to crack cocaine. She got in over her head, and couldn’t see the reality of ‘nor the consequences of her addiction. She also had no concept of the power this drug was exerting in her life. (She was lying to friends and family, lost her job, etc.)
Can Power be likened to a very dangerous and addictive drug?
Power is seductive and addicting, to many who wield it, and it seems to bring out a person’s true character. Ultimately, if not used to serve others, it corrupts. Is that not what we see in our current political climate. Large and small, from Bell California to D.C., and the current fiasco in your neck of the woods?
Perhaps if you look at this situation as an intervention- on behalf of Pat Brady, and more philosophically on behalf of the country you so love, you will be guided to the best way to confront this situation.
Over the last few weeks you clearly laid out for us the respect and love you have for Mr Brady. Boyz you have helped others with their drug and drinking problems. Maybe the answer is in the mindset that the power his current(and future)position offers is his drug. Tough love is holding those you care about accountable no matter what. Time for an intervention.
Good luck Boyz, my prayers are with you.
July 29, 2010 at 1:03 pm
“Most anyone can overcome adversity. If you want to test a man’s character…give him power.”
–Lincoln
July 29, 2010 at 9:54 am
Boyz, with or without our advice, this post of yours is the shot fired across the Brady bow. Since you are a player in this scandal, I think you can be sure it will get back to him and he will see that you want to believe in him. I’d say the next move is his. The longer it takes for him to contact you, the harder he is working to cover his tracks; if you don’t hear from him, you’ll know what to do.
You can out-distance that which is running after you, but not what is running inside you. ~Rwandan Proverb
July 29, 2010 at 10:12 am
Dear HillBuzz: Some more thoughts after my post above. I know you feel the weight of the world on your shoulders. You somehow feel that it is your personal job to clean up all the corruption in Congress, the White House, Illinois, the Democratic party and the Republican party. That would be great if you could, but you cannot. Likewise, you cannot control what others do, much as we would like. We can only control what we do/think/say. So if you feel that by taking this next step you may have a chance to help and make things better, then give it a try. But things may not work out as you hope/plan (remember May 31, 2008 at the DNC meeting?). We all worked our tails off to get them to abide by the rules and give Hillary the delegates she was entitled to. But I am not sorry that we did all that we could at the time to make a very wrong situation right.
I am thinking of something Mother Teresa often said: We can only do small things with great love. Boys, your hearts are in the right place. Singlehandedly you cannot stop all the corruption everywhere. But one candle in a dark room will help to make it light. God Bless ! P.S. Sorry, I feel unusually philosophical today, rather than my usual cynicism!
July 29, 2010 at 12:43 pm
susan’s comment reminded me of a “double one-liner” from a friend that’s been helpful to me over the years when I’m dealing with others’ issues. It has helped me recognize lines and draw boundaries.
What I do is my problem;
how others react is their problem.
What others do is their problem;
how I react is my problem.
(substitute the word “responsibility” for “problem” if that helps)
You guyz will be fine because your hearts are straight. Don’t worry about “what happens next.” That part is not your problem. You’re just standing around with a really excellent flashlight. You are not responsible for the trash it is revealing or for the reactions of those who have been stashing the trash and expecting everyone to pretend it wasn’t there.
Don’t let ‘em get you down.
July 29, 2010 at 2:24 pm
This is great advice !
July 29, 2010 at 10:21 am
Isn’t it ironic that a passel of gay, ex-Democrat-turned-independents would make a better state GOP director than a Republican?
July 29, 2010 at 11:23 am
You’re the only other person I’ve encountered to use “passel” in casual conversation. Not sure what that says about us.
July 29, 2010 at 11:42 am
Actually, passel is probably not the right word, but it has a better feel than “couple” “handful” “few”, etc. I’m not sure what it says about us either, but I’m just a freak in general, so I wouldn’t read too much into it.
July 29, 2010 at 10:26 am
Good luck. I’ve read through all the posts and can’t say I have anything unique to add.
Nobody is really all we make them out to be whether it be good or bad characteristics that we thrust upon them.
Pat Brady (as any state party political officer holder) holds a political position. He is not a preacher, or a pre-school teacher, or a pediatrician. He is a political beast. Is he the first and only politician in the Illinois GOP to get top billing in the party because he was moral and honest and only ever spoke the truth? Did he get to his position without building alliances and never trying to quash those who oppose him and his agenda? I don’t know the answers to these questions and I’m sure he’d never be honest with you or anyone else if he were asked these questions.
If he allows you to speak with him, my only advice is to try on a different pair of glasses so that you may be able to see him and what he is saying from a different view.
July 29, 2010 at 11:00 am
Just tell it like it is, Boyz, because doing anything less will eat away at your guts into infinity. Politicians are mostly ALL corrupt anyway. And the horrendous and dismal corruption emanating from Chicago has to be infecting the entire state to some degree.
On another note (and in hopes of making you smile), did you hear, and do you like, the snark emanating from Rush today about The Boy King’s visit to The View?
I continue to think that insane laughter and ridicule is the only way to bring down these pissants.
July 29, 2010 at 11:32 am
Hello Boyz, haven’t been posting much but’ I’m always checking in time to time. Well’ I must say you get a A-plus for all your time and effort with this GOP debacle in your own backyard.
I will have to agree with all the post’s thus far and many of the replies are great guidelines for what you are about to do.
Also Kevin may I suggest for you to pray for wisdom and guidance.
and I was wondering though, how well do you know Pat Brady? is it on a personal level, or through acquaintance or association. That’s how I would go forward with this mission of yours. You may need to just knock-it out with complete bluntness and let the cards fall where they will and or go with diplomacy angle– either way’ you need to do-it for the sake of your own sanity!
Remember Pat is human just like everyone else and Politics is not for the faint of heart!
July 29, 2010 at 11:42 am
Boyz…I have come slowly up to speed on this story (and coverup)…you daily do more writing and revelation of truth (for no pay!!!) than the MSM cronies do in entire careers. Like many other Buzzerz…please know that YOU ALL are in my prayers (for your safety and success) for what you GIVE to your readers (and our Country). Be strong…you are doing what is RIGHT (literally, figuratively and even metaphorically!!!).
G-d bless!!!
MQ-C
July 29, 2010 at 11:44 am
“Remember Pat is human just like everyone else”…. Which means? He’s not a hypocritical scumbag? It is so rare for people to do the right thing that it sickens me, esp. people who follow religions that stress honesty, morality, and doing the right thing. If he’s a Christian, he needs to man up and admit that he doesn’t take it seriously.
July 29, 2010 at 12:21 pm
SFGoth, I didn’t say he was a saint and don’t know if Pat is a Christian and frankly I don’t care either way. But the Boyz are asking for support and I’m on their side and hope they prevail!
Personally’ I would knock that damn door down and point finger’s at everyone involved with the fact’s and leave no stone unturned! But this is the Boyz call and however they choose to approach this, this will be a tough challenge for them no doubt!
Boyz’ I’ll be will you in thought’s and prayer’s, stay strong…:)
July 29, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Pat Brady was involved on the acts against Eloise Gerson from the start. Madigan-like, he wants total political control, right down to the last precinct.
Gerson has proven to be a much smarter and tougher street fighter than Brady ever dreamed a mere woman could be. Gerson also has very good people around her, who have a record of winning political fights.
Pat Brady better forget about Lee Roupas or Elosie Gerson, and start worrying about his own Chairmanship after the election. If he keeps Roupas in office and this issue blows up on Bill Brady in any way this Fall, he can kiss it all goodbye.
It is very obvious to many at this point that Pat Brady and Lee Roupas are not thinking about the GOP. They are not thinking about Republican victory in November. They are only thinking of saving their own hides and hanging on to power.
Put small men in big jobs, and those are the kind of results you will get, every time.
July 29, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I have never posted here before, but am a daily reader. For whatever reason, this piece cried out to me, and I feel compelled to put forth my two cents (while I still have them).
I believe that if the correct approach is taken with Pat Brady, he may indeed see the dismissing of Roupas, etc. as a unique opportunity to begin ridding Illinois of its political cesspool. The most important thing to remember is to not put him on the defense as that will erect a wall from which your case will bounce off without thoughtful consideration. By carefully framing your arguments around the fact that you do hold him in high regard and that you are willing to help him in whatever way possible, Brady will naturally be compelled to at least listen to and ponder his options.
These would be my talking points:
1. It is unfortunate that Roupas has put Brady this situation.
2. This episode can certainly be used as a turning point in Illinois politics.
3. With Brady beginning to clean house and taking a stand against the “combine” regardless of upsetting the higher powers that be, the citizens of Illinois may begin to take notice and become less cynical of Illinois politics.
4. It is hard to imagine the unbelievable pressure Brady may feel at this time from big donors and other players, but this could prove to be a giant windfall from smaller, private citizen donations, etc. who will begin to reinvigorate the party, etc.
5. If Brady and Illinois GOP candidates make an announcement together in solidarity exposing the CYR incident(s) and subsequent cover up and then state that this type of behavior and dishonesty will not be tolerated, the political fallout will be minimized.
6. This can actually create a decent dialogue about doing what’s right and honorable, especially in the Senate race. Imagine Giannoulias getting flummoxed when he goes on the attack and the counter is “why didn’t you do the right thing when…(fill in the blank)?”
I would not make threats that he will lose support, but rather illustrate the extreme disappointment you will feel if the decision made does not truly hold the interests of Illinois citizens at heart but rather continues politics as usual.
Sorry for the long post. We all need to have faith in each other, and I am truly hoping that this could be a much needed step in cleaning up some of the mess that plagues my beloved home state of Illinois!
July 29, 2010 at 1:11 pm
I was crushed when I found out that a man who had been my mentor for 10 years was secretly living a double life and, though married with three kids, had conceived not one but two children with a mistress.
One must follow, and stand for, principles, not people. People can, and often will, let you down.
Stand on the right principles, and you’ll be fine. Yes, it hurts to see a hero fall. But that’s their own fault, not yours.
July 29, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Hey you knew my former husband!!! Wow what a small world! I’m not belittling your post because I do how shocking and devastating it can be when we put our love and energy into someone only to be deceived, but that is one of the many things my former husband did
July 29, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I have offered extra prayers for you today.
Man to man, you can say truthfully, “I respect you.” “You know the truth.” “It’s time to do the right thing.”
July 29, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I’m just wondering if there’s information of a “sensitive” nature that’s being used to keep Brady in line.
July 29, 2010 at 1:57 pm
You know, I have a similar problem with Michael Steele. I’ve followed his career, had high hopes for him in MD. I really thought he’d get that seat, could not BELIEVE it when he did not. Blacks wouldn’t turn out for him. Baltimore is the most racist city I’ve ever been in.
But he’s gotten so lazy. When he’s energized, he ROCKS. Honest, I can attest to it. It’s just that right now he seems to be phoning it in. He can be amazing when he’s committed. There are many who call for him to step down as head of the RNC. I call for him to–
WAKE UP. WAKE UP, MIKE. I know you’ve got it. Find it and use it and don’t cave so much to the establishment.
July 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Look guys you asked a few months ago that you would stand to protect this country no matter what it took. Truth is your state is in desperate trouble to find a flicker of decency in it. We are seeing it YOU guys. Stand strong for what you believe and always stand for the truth. We always face the obstacles in life that aren’t easy. Its how and what we become afterwards that make us stronger for it. We are at a crossroads in this country that will define this generation of worthiness to be compared to past generations that stood strong for our freedoms. Good hearted people always trust before they learn the hard lesson of disappointment. I could never respect anyone who knowingly knew of problems that would ultimately hurt someone else and cover it up. Stand your ground and always demand honesty!
July 29, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Do what you need to do. If Jeremy gets a gig as a GOP consultant, we will blast him again. He will get fired again. We are trying very hard to get him out of the CYRs. Unfortunately, he has very strong supporters and acolytes- more like apostles.
This war is not over. He has cause too much human destruction. The manchild is cruel, inhumane, and has no morals or ethics. He is also arrogant. That is his downfall.
The war against the manchild will not be over until he is out- unemployed in politics. We will do to him what he did to others. How dare a coward call others cowards?
July 29, 2010 at 2:46 pm
What keeps sounding a bell in the back of my mind is that the Republican Party has been more consistent in tossing out the bad actors when they are exposed. It’s very disheartening when the party’s positions are supposed to be grounded in decency and firmly held moral principles but rightly applauded when the hard actions are taken. On the other side of the aisle, a tax cheat is only really a tax cheat when it’s not a Democrat and a sexual predator is only acting out on the accepted amoral lifestyle that allows one to excuse any and all transgressions.
Your loyalty to and respect for Pat Brady is commendable but may be misplaced. Perhaps you should remind him that it’s the cover-up that creates the biggest scandal. Roupas is guilty of covering up for The Prophet and Brady for covering up for Roupas. And the money being used to manipulate this mess by Beth Christie adds a coat of slime that taints all who dare to become entangled.
You may want to start with an appeal to his better nature based on your original respect for Mr. Brady (as suggested by Abigail Adams…) but do not fail to remind him that the cover-up will result in more damage to him than to the original scumbag who started this ugly mess. There is ample precedent for that in previous political scandals.
July 29, 2010 at 3:18 pm
“Hold to the Truth” just as George Washington said.
We are praying for you.
(And yes, I will get a gravatar, I promise.)
July 29, 2010 at 3:19 pm
All 3 quotes that open Beck’s show can help you:
Hold to the Truth
Question Boldly
Speak Without Fear
July 29, 2010 at 3:24 pm
First of all, I just hope this posts (I think I got myself an avatar, but I’m also computer-illiterate.)
I’m afraid I don’t have any advice for you that hasn’t already been mentioned. I just wanted to try and let all of you Boyz know how much I have come to respect your integrity and sincerity during the months I’ve been lurking here.
I don’t know how well you know Brady, but it seems your only hope is to try and contact him, and express yourselves with as much brutal frankness as you can. From the sound of things, though, I have this nasty feeling that the situation is simply out of your hands.
I’m praying I’m wrong, though. I get the feeling that we’re at some sort of massive tipping point in this country, and we all have to do whatever we can to see that it tips in the correct direction.
July 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm
More prayers and admiration coming your way…
Moms and Dads call out their children every day, or week. Its called character-building… we do it because we love them.
Before you fantastic Boyz do another thing, call Brady’s office to sit down with him. Ask him questions, “Please tell me…”
Then walk (or run) away knowing you did all you could.
July 29, 2010 at 3:42 pm
My screen name says it: “Light Your World.” Not light *the* world which is a very big place, just light *your* world.
Pat Brady is in *your* world, not mine. I have zero influence there… but you do.
Go Light Your World with the Truth!
July 29, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I always call that person on the phone and tell them where I stand then I call them out publically.
July 29, 2010 at 5:33 pm
JRD is right on the money: you (and many of us) have been through a worse crisis in discovering that Hillary Clinton was not what we believed her to be when she went to work for Dr. Utopia.
This is minor in comparison.
He’s either the good man you believe him to be – in which case he will appreciate your perspective and respond to you with the same respect you show him, or he is what others on this thread believe him to be – in which case his response is a moot point, because he will no longer have the power to hurt you once he unmasks himself.
July 29, 2010 at 8:52 pm
It is not minor, corruption from the bottom up is anathema to our country.
Find it, let the sunshine in and root it out. Go for it Boyz.
July 29, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I think many of us are going through this, or a similar process, because we realize the future of this wonderful country depends upon our honesty and integrity. We risk alienating friends and family, but America is a worthy cause.
Why not just say what you’ve written here? It’s honest, well considered and well researched. Your sincerity is apparent. Your cause is right.
“There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” –Henry David Thoreau
You have support and so many prayers. You can prevail. And thank you for doing the right thing.
July 29, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Boys it is my personal belief that we’ve gone far beyond the point where we can give quarter to corruption of any kind. Looking the other way with a wink and a nod is what’s gotten us in this situation.
I’ve sat on the sidelines while my former employer was destroyed by union thugery and mismanagement because none of the over 34,000 employees (all who went on to lose their jobs while the union and corporate fat cats who destroyed the place cashed out with millions) wanted to step out of our comfort zone and call out what was happening before our very eyes; I live in a once great area of the country that’s been turned into a sewer pipe by corrupt politicians and businessmen; and now our country is being destroyed before my very eyes.
NO MORE! I will not tolerate even the slightest bit of corruption from an official I’ve placed my trust in and I don’t give a [d]amn who they are.
I don’t think you would have posted this if you didn’t have fairly strong evidence that this Brady fellow is guilty of what amounts to pay-to-play.
He’s not what you thought he was and it’s time to call him out; as it’s time we, as a collective, start calling out corruption and behavior in ALL our public officials.
July 29, 2010 at 7:02 pm
HB+:
I have found during my own specialized government cover-up investigation hobby over 30+ years that when some seems not-as-it-should, then go with your instincts. This may include Brady’s behavior, but there are often behind the scene pressures on participants that require months or years to pass, to bring the event into sharper perspective, so don’t be in too much of a rush; sometimes the logic of youth will seem hasty when reflected upon later.
OK – enough parenting…..
What does get my attention is the difficulty I had trying to find any solid background on EKC after spending a good half hour.
I couldn’t find anything about her foundation; maybe it is more of a ‘good feeling’.
I think I found that she went to that conservative stronghold in Boulder CO (Mork and Mindy?) and received a ‘degree’:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/beth-christie/4/371/195
She seems to like science as she joined these serious astronomy hobbyists:
http://www.spectrashift.com/index.shtml
and (scroll down for Beth)
http://www.spectrashift.com/team.shtml
I did find an mp3 recording of a talk she gave while still a CEO at Avent:
http://www.tei.net/presidentsforum/2001/0913/ElizabethChristie.asp
mp3 here:
http://www.tei.net/PresidentsForumPodcast/2001/0913/TEI-20010913-ElizabethChristie.mp3
…in the recording Beth states that she’d “rather be lucky than good”
(Overall, her past is roughly as open as Obama’s.)
….SOOOO…what is my point?
…just that it occurred to me that it is MUCH cheaper to defeat the IL GOP by donating $100K a year than it is to buy blanket Mass Media advertising…
July 29, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Yes, I have been in a similar situation. Talk to Pat face to face if possible. Did he want this position to make things better? My guess is that he did. Remind him of that. Look him in the eye as you express your concerns about his behavior, his bad decision making. Let him try to explain his decisions. Point out to him that he may be becoming that which he was against. If you can’t or won’t support him under these circumstances, let him know. He needs to know where you stand. You will walk away with your dignity. While he may not agree with you or what you say, being called to the mat by someone who he has respect for may cause him to question himself, his motives, and may in the end cause a change in his behavior. Should this turn ugly (as in denial/defensiveness), you may want to state at the end that you hope it isn’t true that “every man has his price”.
Will pray for you to have the guidance you seek.
Your heart and gut will tell you what to do should you have the opportunity to speak to him. You’ve been doing a great job for months. You will do the right thing!
July 29, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Boyz,
Since you have asked us to pray, I will.
As your beloved nuns might advise:
Speak the truth in love.
Be wise as serpents, but harmless as doves.
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints. Ephesians 6:10-18
July 29, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Coming a little late to the discussion, but I will tell you guyz that I have been in a position of power where I had to fire someone who was a friend. She took advantage of me and my boss and with her wiley personality and drop dead gorgeous looks, she got away with it for too long. When I confronted her, she dumped me as a friend and for a time became my enemy. I also had a friend from 4th grade who was cheating on her husband and asking me to be her “excuse”. After two or so times, I told her that I couldn’t do that to him and that she had to pick a lane and that I’d support her decision. She also dropped me as a friend. Haven’t spoken to her since we had that conversation. It’s PAINFUL to suffer loss over ethical matters. But what is it they say? “Character is when you do the right thing when no one is around. I would add that character is when you do the right thing knowing that you will suffer loss. I am praying for you all, and hoping that you are able to convince Mr. Brady that he has to do what is right for the Party, for those who work for it, for the State, and for the country. There is one thing that pops into my mind while reading your moving essay and that is: Is it possible that Pat Brady is being blackmailed into letting it go? Is it possible that there is something in his past that he can’t have made public?
July 29, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Yes. Do what you think is right. Truth always prevails in Divine Right Time. Live your life with honor.
July 29, 2010 at 9:06 pm
From Edmond Burke:
“It is not enough in a situation of trust in the commonwealth, that a man means well to his country; it is not enough that in his single person he never did an evil act, but always voted according to his conscience, and even harangued against every design which he apprehended to be prejudicial to the interests of his country. This innoxious and ineffectual character, that seems formed upon a plan of apology and disculpation, falls miserably short of the mark of public duty. That duty demands and requires that what is right should not only be made known, but made prevalent; that what is evil should not only be detected, but defeated. When the public man omits to put himself in a situation of doing his duty with effect it is an omission that frustrates the purposes of his trust almost as much as if he had formally betrayed it. It is surely no very rational account of a man’s life, that he has always acted right but has taken special care to act in such a manner that his endeavours could not possibly be productive of any consequence.”
In other words, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
July 29, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Whatever approach you take to address Mr. Brady — as a concerned admirer or as a skeptic, it is worth noting that the cover-up always creates more of a scandal than many of the underlying bad deeds. This situation has layers of cover-up and that has a likelihood of turning out very badly.
July 30, 2010 at 12:08 am
All great posts on here.
But I know this Pat Brady well enough to know he’s not a good guy. Trust me, he’s not “struggling with anything” or anything along those lines. Brady is standing by Roupas and for reasons he doesn’t want to share. I mean think about it. This is a nationwide story now, thanks to HillBuzz. Doesn’t it speak volumes that Brady is saying nothing?
If you really want to get rid of Roupas and close the loop on the clean-up you’ve started, you’ve got to put the pressure on Pat Brady. I don’t know what the magic number is exactly, but if Brady got a hundred or so emails or phone calls telling him to oust Roupas, that might very well be enough. And I can guarantee even some (maybe even a lot) of the GOP committeemen Roupas chairs would join in once the momentum starts. And in case you couldn’t tell, I’m all for Roupas going. This isn’t the first sleazy thing he’s been involved in. There’s a pattern of bad behavior. He’s only like 28 or something. Some 28 year olds could maybe handle the party position he has. But in Roupas’ case he’s just on a big ego trip and all he’s done is cater to the bad players. Same thing happened to Rose.
July 30, 2010 at 12:29 am
Sorry for chiming in late, guys — we’re going to be moving across six time zones in less than a week here.
I will happily keep you all in my prayers. It’s the least I could do for the example of courage and integrity you have set for me since I stumbled across your blog. You guys have inspired me to do things that, small as they may seem to others, timid little me would never have done a couple of years ago.
As far as how to confront him — I really wish I could be of more help in that. I’m currently trying to figure that one out myself. My loving, intelligent, hardworking father has been duped by the Utopia crowd, and believes all the garbage they keep throwing at Sarah Palin. He’s usually an extraordinary judge of character; I don’t know how he could have gotten this so backwards. Last time I tried to tell him it didn’t go well, and neither of us have brought it up since. (I spent a lot of time when I was younger being a terrible judge of character, so that doesn’t help my case any.) I hope and pray you have better success with Mr. Brady than I have with my dad.
July 30, 2010 at 12:41 am
I found the comments fascinating and will leave it at that.
But there was one issue no one mentioned. I am no fan of Demetra DeMonte, and in the past she has stabbed me in the back. So there is no love lost there. But recently Pat Brady unceremoniously dumped DeMonte when she overshadowed Brady. This says something about Brady’s character, and it is not good. Brady stabbed one of his own people in the back.
Tread carefully with him. Brady is a snake. Even to his own kind.
Andy Martin
July 30, 2010 at 9:55 am
Andy Martin raises a good point. Pat Brady did pick a fight with Demetra Demonte recently. She was ousted from a significant coordinator role as head of coalitions within the state gop because of Pat Brady’s pressure. Actually I heard he demanded her resignation from that role after some screaming and yelling in a meeting. She keeps her main title as National Committeewoman however. That’s almost on the same level as State Chairman, but is less visable.
So two points. One, shows Pat Brady can oust someone when he wants to and he’s not shy about it. And keep in mind, Demonte had none of the dirt on her that Roupas does.
Second, let’s add more drama. Might Pat Brady have been egging Demonte on, hoping she would get so frustrated that she would give up her National Committeewoman title too? And gee, might there be a certain woman in the wings that Pat Brady would love to put into that big spot? Hmmmmmmmm………
Would 100 grand buy the National Committeewoman spot? I’m thinking yes, especially given how bad fundraising is for the IL GOP these days. And if she did get the spot, more contributions would likely follow from her.
Blagojevich has nothing on Illinois Republicans. Let’s not kid ourselves. They all operate the same way.