This is truly bizarre: “experts” can’t find where the oil went in the Gulf.
Years ago, one of us freelance project managed something for the City of Chicago involving water that was mysteriously appearing and killing trees in one of the parks. He had to call in hydrologists and plant experts and the like, and one of the most interesting aspects of all of it was discovering a whole field of people who do nothing else all day but think about where water goes, and how it moves as a predictable system based on various factors they could input into their computers.
Do “experts” really not know all that much about the oceans if they can’t determine where all the oil from the Gulf deepwater leak went?
Humans have been working with oil for a fair amount of time now, and they’ve been studying the oceans for much, much longer. We remember the nuns back in Catholic School teaching us about the various currents, in the Gulf of Mexico, Atlantic, Pacific, etc. They had colorful maps and charts that illustrated where these currents went. Perhaps someone should send these to the “experts”. If any of those nuns are still around, they should be consulted on this, too, because it seemed like if we followed the currents, then something that was in the Gulf would be carried away along those currents and end up at a fairly predictable place.
Since oil is not a solid, but a liquid, like water, predicting where it ends up might be more complicated than looking for rubber ducks that were dumped off a large freighter (which happened in the 80s…and provided scientists will all sorts of data on how the currents worked and where detris in the oceans ends up). But, we just think it’s bizarre the “experts” are stumped on where all this oil is.
“It disappeared” or “something drank it” are not good enough answers.
Though, we’ve always said that eventually SOMETHING would evolve to eat petroleum products that are supposedly accumulating into a giant garbaged dump in the middle of the Pacific. We saw a special once about this place that plastics supposedly go, that traps all sorts of animals who are too stupid to get out of the way. That’s where all of those plastic rings from soda packs are strangling all sorts of things, apparently. With all of that material out there, it just seems obvious that some kind of bacteria or critter would evolve to feast on all of it as a food source in due time. That’s what seems to happen to everything else in the ecosystem. Looking at the course of life on this planet, that’s happened time and time again where some pressure forced organisms to adapt, survive, and thrive.
Some animals we have today won’t survive this or that event, but new animals will emerge that will do just fine.
Has something really slurped up all that oil?
Where’s Oprah? Did she think it was chocolate syrup? Have scientists finally found a use for that woman to equal her Media hype?
Or, are “experts” just in dire need of nuns to whip out the maps and graphs and explain ocean currents well enough to find all the oil?
What do you think is going on?
July 27, 2010 at 9:07 am
Yeah, that’s weird. What’s even weirder is that a lot of the animals found dead had no sign of oil on or in them.
July 27, 2010 at 9:08 am
Did Oprah kill them?
July 27, 2010 at 10:01 am
They may have died from the Natural Gas that was also spewing forth from the well.
July 27, 2010 at 11:09 am
Very likely. Experts were saying that enough methane and other natural gases were blowing out of the well to create a “dead zone” of non-oxygenated water.
July 27, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I started reading the blog & saw the comment from hillbuzz & just burst out laughing – god knows we need a little humor – I’m tired of crying…………..
July 27, 2010 at 9:10 am
Rush has been saying from the first week that Mother Nature will eventually take care of it. There are natural oil leaks from the ocean floor at all times and it is naturally dispersed.
Rush took a lot of hits for this, but it looks like he was right. Unfortunately it makes The Boy King’s inaction look a bit justified.
July 27, 2010 at 9:12 am
Sorry if my first eaten post makes this a repost.
Rush has said all along that left alone, Mother Nature would take care of it. Oil seeps from the ocean floor every day and it is dispersed. Even thought the spill was enormous, it stands to reason that it would also be dispersed to the point where it disappears. He took a lot of flack for this when he said it in the beginning days. Looks like he was right. Unfortunately it also makes The Boy King’s lack of action look not quite so bad.
July 27, 2010 at 9:12 am
again – sorry – but my eaten posts rarely turn up.
July 27, 2010 at 9:31 am
i too, had heard that this was something Rush thought might happen..of course he was ridiculed.. but as to todays question, where did the oil go, this is the first i’ve heard that it “went’ somewhere. why is it a secret, havent heard it anywhere else?
July 27, 2010 at 9:29 am
Coincidentally, nobody seems to know where where all the billions of stimulus money went. Maybe the oil has disappeared into the same black hole. (Oops! Is that racist?)
July 27, 2010 at 9:33 am
LOL! You’re right, we do seem to be suffering from a giant black hole that everything gets sucked into. Oil, stimulus funds, campaign promises, congressional integrity…
July 27, 2010 at 10:41 am
This is a graphics opportunity. I am lousey at artwork, so someone else might want to give this a go: A black hole in outer space with Obama at its center; oil, stimulus funds, campaign promises, congressional integrity, etc, (as yttik lists) all being sucked into the Big Black Hole. The caption could somehow tie “whose ass to kick” to the “Big Black Hole.”
July 27, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Only if that black hole is called Obama.
Check his bank account when he leave office. Stimulus missing money?
July 27, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Oh, and part of it has to be going for their vacations. Michelle is using our taxpayer monies to put 40 of her bestest friends and ‘handlers’ up in hotels while she’s having her Spain vacation!
Ugly American?
July 27, 2010 at 9:33 am
Amazing how the Navy can track a submarine all across the ocean yet they can’t track an oil slick?
LANDSAT photos show EXACTLY where the oil is. Whoever put this “experts can’t find the oil” story out is full of it. NASA knows.
July 27, 2010 at 9:57 am
Just goes to show that all the “experts” are idiots and don’t know what in hell they are talking about. That goes for the climate change “experts” as well!
Anything for a good crisis!
July 27, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Way back in the early sixties in high school the joke circulated
that X ex)was an unknown. A “spert” a drip which quickly dries up. The joke was not far from wisdom.
The experts are always wrong. In 1900 the experts all predicted that the 20th century was going to be one of permanent peace and prosperity. The experts certainly missed on the peace prophesy.
July 27, 2010 at 10:02 am
Sometimes I read a site called Above Top Secret. Its sort of way out there in the way that Alex Jones is, but its often interesting because the posters put up articles on things they have been thinking about.
About 3-4 weeks ago a poster put up an article about things that did not seem right about the oil spill. That, of course, led to lots of people posting what did not seem right to them, too.
It was pointed out how odd it was that there was a news black out and no fly zone, yet a camera showing the gusher 24/7. There were lots of odd things, but the oddest was how BP continued to put the corex out in the water when it was a known hazard. And there was speculation that the oil spill was being hyped up as an emergency to get cap and trade through, and also a way for BP to get rid of its vast amount of corex-since it is illegal to dispose of it anywhere. It was interesting-in part because there seems to be distrust of this administration everywhere. They also said that BP stands to make a lot of money if cap and trade goes through, but I don’t remember all of the details.
July 27, 2010 at 9:48 pm
BP owns 10% of CCX (Chicago Carbon Exchange), which is the outfit set up to trade in “carbon credits” if/when cap&tax goes through. It’s – potentially – worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Perhaps even trillions.
But(!!!) without cap&tax — it’s not worth squat.
Isn’t it funny that the regime is using the bp oil spill to try to pass legislation that will enrich bp beyond their wildest corporate dreams?
Somehow, I don’t believe that bp minds taking a $17billion hit this year for $$hundreds of billions$$ down the roaIn fact, it wouldn’t have worked out better if it had been *planned* to get c&t passed.
mmmm mmmm mmmm (I wonder how much CCX stock the lightbringer has in his portfolio?)
July 27, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Above should say:
“….down the road. In fact….”
July 27, 2010 at 10:07 am
Boyz there certainly are microbes already in nature that just love to chow down on hydrocarbons. I work in the environmental cleanup biz so I do have some first hand knowledge of the situation. I think that the fact that the water on the Gulf’s surface is so warm really amps up the little guys and they breakdown the hydrocarbons fairly quickly. As an aside, it’s interesting that you can actually buy “bags of bugs” to sprinkle on hydrocarbon spills (but my understanding is that all of these pre-packaged microbes are available in nature so maybe not worth the money). As for where all of the oil has gone, I suspect that a healthy portion of the contaminants are trapped deep in the water column and may not reach the shore all that quickly (if maybe at all). Unfortunately, this may create a tremendous “dead zone” along the bottom of the Gulf – the consequences of which only marine biologists and oceanographers may be able to tell. Looking on the bright side, perhaps this problem will give Al Gore something to rail about wherever he resurfaces to annoy the public again.
July 27, 2010 at 12:47 pm
I agree Wrobin. During the first weeks, we were hearing about these “pillars” or “columns” of thick oil that were under the water. I think that much of that sank to the bottom or lurks near the bottom, still killing whatever is down there. Dead zone indeed. There is so much that we don’t know because of the news black out and no fly/no ships zones. Books will be written about this disaster decades from now that will provide some truth, but not all of it.
July 27, 2010 at 10:13 am
They can’t find the oil? The same way, I guess, that the White Hut couldn’t ‘find’ Shirley Sherrod til Thursday last week; or they can’t ‘find’ billions and billions in ‘left over’ Stimuli money?
Maybe the tarballs and sheen are safely sequestered with Barky’s Birth Certificate; College Transcripts and Passport? Or possibly, in a mega records ‘scrub,’ Charlie Rangel just ‘dumped’ so much paper trail into the Atlantic that it was all soaked up? What eveh the ultimate cause, rest easy that the impetus for the ‘loss’ of all that BLACK crude (here it comes!!!) IS RAAAACISM!!!
July 27, 2010 at 10:24 am
I hope you (and Rush) are right about Mother Nature taking care of the oil slicks.
But I’m afraid that the corexit dispersent they’ve been using has sunk the oil to the bottom where it can’t be noticed.
That was the purpose of using it, was it not?
July 27, 2010 at 10:00 pm
This is about the Ixtoc spill – which was worse than deepwater horizon.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/1979s_ixtoc_oil_well_blowout_i.html
Mother Nature seems to have done a fine job healing her own.Which is not to say, of course that we shouldn’t worry or do all that we can to help Mama N with her work.
July 27, 2010 at 10:35 am
It could be hovering beneath the surface.
July 27, 2010 at 11:22 am
What a load of horsexxxt! The 1979 Ixtoc spill in the Bay of Campeche coughed up oil and tar balls on Texas beaches for TWENTY YEARS and these corrupt, incompetent crooks, cowards and thieves in the US Govt. and BP don’t know where the most catastrophic oil spill in U.S. history went????
Jackasses.
July 27, 2010 at 11:25 am
Nature is a wonder in all of her glory. Mother has a way of dealing with our meddlesome nonsense. Oil is a naturally occuring organic substance. Remember the big difference between this oil leak and the Exxon Valdez was the Valdez was “refined” oil, already processed. This leak is just the pure natural stuff not yet refined. I would think that makes a difference…. I hope it does.
July 27, 2010 at 11:35 am
Not surprising to me. Oil is not a poison, it’s just poop from prehistoric algae and dinner for modern bacteria. The only areas that will remain dirty are the areas where we used detergents to “clean up” the oil, making it inedible by the bacteria. Where we didn’t soap it, bacteria will feast on it.
July 27, 2010 at 11:36 am
What about the moratorium on drilling? Will they lift it?
July 27, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Not until all of the rigs have moved to Brazil (Soros) or Libya (Muslims)….
July 27, 2010 at 11:58 am
You guys are so funny.
“Where’s Oprah? Did she think it was chocolate syrup? Have scientists finally found a use for that woman to equal her Media hype?”
This former Chicagoan lives in FL now, our “news” is perpetual BP infomercials. FL officials went pro-active with their defenses against the oil, they did not want to get stuck like Jindal in LA. I wanted to know if they used the microbes as seen in the TX-6 week oil remediation video. Is the oil ban that the Federal Judge struck down still in effect?, that is causing even greater monetary losses. The folks on the Gulf lost the entire season, when they make the most of their money. The government’s, under Obama response to this catastrophe was worse than BP, and that is saying something. Good thing it was not an enemy at the gates.
July 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Well, this WAS light crude oil, not processed like the IXTOC or Exxon Valdez. And people in the administration aren’t math or science majors; they’re PolySci majors and lawyers.
They only looked at SURFACE AREA, not volume. The reality is that while it seemed like a lot of oil, compared to the vast volume of water in the Gulf it was small potatoes.
Plus, unlike processed oil, the light oil isn’t quite as heavy or dense, so it can disperse much easier. The oil that was coming up from the drilling platform is the same oil that is released naturally into the water through cracks in the floor of the Gulf, and a LOT of that is released every year.
July 27, 2010 at 4:02 pm
I saw something on a website that said that if you think of the Gulf of Mexico as Texas Stadium, the oil spill would equate to a 16 oz can of beer. Interesting.
July 27, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Ixtoc wasn’t processed. It was coming straight out of the ground.
And by some estimates, it was worse than deepwater horizon.
July 27, 2010 at 12:12 pm
The disappearance is very easy to explain.
If there are a few math people on this blog, please do the math to verify what I am saying here.
If you accept that 180 million gallons of oil spilled during the 86+ days of Obama’s total lack of caring, and if you assume that this oil spread over a square of 100 miles by 100 miles (10,000 square miles), it is easy to calculate that the oil would end up being about 0.001 inch thick.
So, now if you consider how much of this is comprised over very volatile hydrocarbons which evaporate quickly, it is easy to understand why most of the oil is now gone. Except for the heavy stuff which would have sunk by now, the rest is long gone and has completly evaporated.
Of course, the Obama administration has shown that math is not one of its strong suit so they are clueless about any of this.
July 27, 2010 at 1:21 pm
http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/07/27/new-leak-found-on-gulf-coast/
Boat just hit another well…think this is on purpose yet?
July 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm
“Hillary Clinton was Right.”
July 27, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Perhaps the (non) experts on Obama’s Drilling Investigation Committee can explain it. They must be geniuses because they are serving on a commission to investigate the gulf oil spill, yet, not a one of them have any background in petroleum engineering:
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com%2F2010%2F07%2Fthe_antidrilling_commission.html
July 27, 2010 at 2:10 pm
This is not any more surprising than any Democrat running any ethics commission IMHO.
July 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Is it possible that it was dispersed by the waves, or possibly sank. However, my thought is what happens if the amounts that are remaining are eaten by the red algae causing them to multiply? We know that algae love carbon products/carbon dioxide, so wouldn’t floating oil residue just be algae fertilizer?
July 27, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Bermuda Triangle?
July 27, 2010 at 3:08 pm
LOL thanks I needed that.
July 27, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I fully agree with Andre. The analysis is right on the mark. You see, there is a strange assumption that is underneath all of this thinking: oil cannot be naturally degrade, and if it could be degraded, it must only be a tiny fraction. Therefore, what’s not found must be lurking somewhere. I’ve been thinking about this for a while and I do know for a fact that bacteria are present that do feast on oil. They use it as fuel and they will multiply and get the job done. When there is no more food supply, they die – period, end of story. There is all the assumption that the oil must have sunked to the bottom. I find that to be implausible for the following reasons: the relative density of crude oil is lower than water. In this case, the water has a density that is greater than one because of the dissolved salt and other solutes. That’s why one floats more easily in salt water than fresh water. The same thing happens to crude oil. I don’t buy the assumption that what we can’t see must be on the bottom. With regards to the dispersants, we are only talking about soap. Therefore, soap is naturally degradable. It has to be in order for us to use it. I am not concerned about the Gulf. The sun, tide, microbes, and the rest of Creation will take care of the oil. A number of you have posted and I agree – oil is an organic material (made of carbon), and it is biodegradable at a high degree, and yes, it is naturally leaked from the ocean floors.
July 27, 2010 at 3:51 pm
I have a feeling that the WH is deeply disappointed in the missing oil. They’re probably whining that nothing seems to go well for them. It would have been preferable to have this issue front page every day so that they can drum up the case to takeover yet another industry. As for me, what goes wrong for them, can only be right for us, can only benefit this country.
July 27, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Well, well, well, once again the end of the world comes up short while the chicken littles are still running in circles. A long time ago, someone pointed out that “the answer to pollution is dilution, dilution, dilution”. Do the math, worst case scenario 4.2 million gallons of oil (which degrades naturally as noted several times above). Gulf of Mexico (per Wiki) has 660 Quadrillion gallons of water – that’s 15 zeros after the 660. Percentage of oil in the gulf per volume is.00000000064% The term drop in a bucket does not even reach this far.
July 28, 2010 at 9:22 am
Yes, but facts get in the way of receivership!
July 27, 2010 at 5:21 pm
I doubt those oil plumes that were found under the surface have evaporated away so I won’t be surprised when they eventually come ashore and make a nasty mess somewhere. When or where – I have no idea. Hope like heck a Utopian Fairy sprinkled pixie dust on it all and now it’s in Neverland.
July 27, 2010 at 5:22 pm
>>Has something really slurped up all that oil?
Where’s Oprah? Did she think it was chocolate syrup? Have scientists finally found a use for that woman to equal her Media hype?<<
ROFLOL!!!!!
July 27, 2010 at 8:20 pm
The administration gave BP permission to use an oil dispersant that has been banned in many places. They own the patent to it and it may explain the death of animals because it is extremely toxic. The bacteria in the ocean degrades oil normally.
July 29, 2010 at 9:29 am
The ‘toxic’ chemical is the same thing that makes Dawn Dish Soap so effective. You absolutely would not want to drink it straight, but ‘dilution, dilution, dilution’ applies to the dispersant just like it applies to the oil.
July 27, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Perhaps the whole thing was never as bad as the WH and the media tried to make us think it was. Perhaps they were spinning it into a monster for political gain. Perhaps when the blame started hitting them in the face, they backed off the spin.
July 27, 2010 at 10:21 pm
One cam bet with certainty that any information flowing from the Obozo Regime is all misinformation. The Obozo government as in 1984 stands truth on its head. Truth are lies and lies are truth.
July 27, 2010 at 10:38 pm
God took care of it!
July 28, 2010 at 9:17 am
Absolutely! It always amazes me how people can believe in evolution when observing nature. As complex as nature is, it couldn’t have just happened by accident. It had to have a beginning.
Bottom line, oil is a natural substance that God put in the earth for us to discover and use. He also made natural clean-up agents.
July 28, 2010 at 9:48 am
Along the same lines, it always amazes me that people who proclaim to believe in evolution also insist on believing that nature/the earth is incapable of evolving to survive what we humans do to it.
July 28, 2010 at 4:01 am
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July 28, 2010 at 4:21 am
It is sitting on the ocean floor, suffocating the next generation of shrimp, fish, etc:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/course-clean-workers-cant-find-oil-bp-used-dispersants-temporarily-hide-it-so-now-it-will-pl
July 28, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Very little marine life is found at 4,000 feet depth in the the oceans. The ocean depth of well blow in the gulf is more than 4,000 feet.95% of the life in the ocean is in the top 2-300 hundred feet and near the coast.
Life in the oceans need sunlight, mineral nutrients, and oxygen, & carbons. There is damned little sunlight that makes it to a 4,000 feet depth and hence little life. As a matter of point most commercial fish are in waters near shore or just at the edge of the continental shelves wjere upwelling takes place. Shrimp are creatures of shallow waters near the shore where there is a mixing of fresh & salt water and lots of organic material that washes down from land. The joke and a not entirely untrue one is that shrimp thrive naer sewer outfalls and that is the reason kosher law forbade eating of shrimp and many other shellfish.
In the last thirty years there have been major oil spills on the Coasts of Brittany(France)and Galicoa (northeastern Spain)both rich fishing and shellfishing areas. The reality is the fisheries in those areas recovered quickly from the spills as did marine life in Alaska.
The envirowackos are 99.9999% ignorant fanatics who know little about marine bilogy . The greenie loons as species whose brains are as small & lacking in true knowledge low as their mouth are wide.
July 28, 2010 at 9:27 am
I really think that by this time next year, everyone, including me, will be scratching our heads wondering how in the world could all of this oil disappear. I firmly believe that microial remediation is a highly effective method for cleanup, especially oil. I work in an area of technology that studies this type of particular remediation. In my experience, we’ve applied microbes to rid the waste, and it does a really good job. But, that was done in a controlled setting. I know that under a more natural setting, this could be a significant reaction, but in about a year’s time, we’ll come to appreciate how efficient it all is in a natural setting.
July 28, 2010 at 11:43 am
thought you’d enjoy this (will post to open thread, too, but it’s really far down today).
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/07/27/rnc_ad_hillary_was_right_about_3am_phone_call.html
July 29, 2010 at 1:11 pm
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