Read this article in The Weekly Standard by Jonathan V. Last, “Clinton Voters Jump Ship”.
It says a lot of what we’ve been telling you since 2008: the Democrat Party under Howard Dean and Donna Brazile thought they could push the Jacksonian (Clinton) Democrats out of the party and still be able to hold power.
That’s clearly not the case.
We are a living example of that.
For our friends who’ve known us for most of our lives, it’s still surreal to them that we not only voted for McCain/Palin in 2008, but that we ran Democrats for McCain efforts here in Illinois, and we continue to support Sarah Palin and other Republicans we like going forward. Prior to 2008, all of this would have been unthinkable. We were Democrat Party loyalists who never had so much as a Republican friend. And now, because of how the DNC behaved in 2008, the Democrat Party as it exists today sickens us.
We are doing everything we can, in fact, to destroy it. We want to see every current Democrat in the Senate booted from office at the first available opportunity. We are already laying the groundwork for how we can be a part of the Palin 2012 campaign to oust Dr. Utopia from the White House.
Democrats, after their behavior in 2008 towards Hillary Clinton and what they have done since Dr. Utopia took office, deserve to be out of power for 30 years.
WE ARE DYED-IN-THE-WOOL FORMER PARTY LOYALISTS SAYING THIS.
You might take this for granted if you come here every day and are used to us ripping into Democrat leaders…but, like we said, prior to 2008 our ire would have been turned exclusively toward Republicans.
The DNC’s behavior flipped us. The Utopia campaign, and how it treated Hillary Democrats opened our eyes. Articles about Jacksonian Democrats, like the one above, really make us think about where we fit into something much, much larger than ourselves.
It does not appear the DNC or White House have any idea what’s happening, but there’s very solid grounds to believe the Democrat Party has been destroyed. We cannot count the number of former partisans we know who want nothing to do with Democrats ever again, not after Dr. Utopia and his Hopey-Change Gang, and the way they’ve treated Jacksonians.
For years, the MSM has claimed the GOP was on the path towards oblivion, becoming just a regional, Southern, religious party.
In fact, it’s Democrats who are so decimated…they are becoming a black, urban elite, fresh out of college party.
An argument could be made that Democrats, with the Healthcare Rationing push, have now lost elderly voters. They may also, to some extent, be losing gay voters (because it’s obvious Dr. Utopia only pays lip service to the LGBTQ community). The great hope for the DNC is ramming through amnesty to create new Democrat voters out of illegal immigrants…but it seems Hispanics have no loyalty to any party, really, and become increasingly conservative as they start to do better the longer they are established here.
The Clintons are the only thing keeping us in the Democrat Party at this point. If not for President and Secretary Clinton, and whatever they have planned for the future, we’d be Independents.
According to the article above by Last, it appears there are millions of people like us, who might have some cultural or nostalgic reason for remaining nominally Democrat, but who’ve become so disgusted by the party’s lurch to the socialist Left that blind-party voting for us is history.
February 9, 2010 at 12:09 pm
I read the Michael Barone article in full when it came out, and I really bought into his premise that the Jacksonians would pull back from Obama. But they didn’t. Or at least not in enough numbers.
Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me twice; shame on me.
I’ll believe the Jacksonians are fleeing en masse when I see it in the 2010and 2012 elections — not before.
February 9, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Couldn’t agree more. In the gen’l election of ’08 I truly thought the PUMA movement would save the day for Mc/Palin and it didn’t happen. Many comments I read on several websites post-election were of the “I-tried-to-vote-R-and-I-just-couldn’t-do-it” variety, so I’ll have to see it to believe it. However well-intentioned they may be, it appears that pulling that D lever may be a habit too strong to break for some. I hope I’m SO wrong in November.
February 9, 2010 at 6:04 pm
I don’t really agree with tthat and might have been reading different siites at the time, but the PUMA sites I belonged to we not only voted for mcCain but also worked for,donated too, many of us for the first time. There were some people who couldn’t vote Republican but chose to stay home not not vote at all, but the great majority of PUMAS I know voted for Mccain. BUT less Republicans voted for Mccain than Bush and the Dems voting for McCain could not make up for them.
here is an interesting link from here shortly after the election http://hillbuzz.org/2008/11/13/16-of-hillary-clintons-voters-backed-mccain-if-republicans-had-turned-out-in-2004-numbers-these-pumas-would-have-put-mccain-over-the-top/
February 9, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Yes Lyn, it was the “Republicans” who let down the country and McCain.
They refused to vote for some one who would not pay lip-service at least to 100% of their demands.
February 10, 2010 at 10:35 am
I was one who held my nose and voted for McCain. I never understood the ones who stayed home. What did they think would be accomplished by that? Exactly what did happen, is what.
February 10, 2010 at 11:03 am
Some of them (that stayed home) wanted Obama to win “need a Carter to get a reagan” kind of thinking. BUt they either didn’t think or didn’t care about how much damage Obama could do to our Country. here is another interested link from 08 about that http://hillbuzz.org/2008/11/15/conservative-republicans-did-not-support-mccain-and-some-hoped-hed-lose/
February 9, 2010 at 9:16 pm
You didn’t read it in its entirity.
It has already happened – believe it.
February 9, 2010 at 9:16 pm
It has already happened – believe it.
You didn’t read it in its entirity.
February 9, 2010 at 9:31 pm
The Jacksonian Democrats http://www.directessays.com/viewpaper/103104.html
February 9, 2010 at 12:10 pm
It’s funny, but I’ve always thought of you guys as JFK Democrats.
If you read any of his speeches and look at his record(like cutting taxes) he was more conservative than any Democrat in office today.
I’m just happy we are all talking about saving this country from this Leftist, Socialist agenda no matter WHAT party we are all from.
These Socialists need to go home.
And I plan to work my butt off to send them there!
February 9, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I venture to guess that JFK would run as a Republican today.
February 9, 2010 at 3:55 pm
I think that you are correct. I think that of the brothers JFK was probably the most conservative. I would have said the same about Bobby K, at least from what I gleaned from the press accounts. It is Teddy who was the most liberal one.
February 9, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Yes, I always thought of myself and the Democratic Party as the party of JFK, but that party doesn’t exist anymore and that’s why after the primaries last year, I left it and registered “Undeclared”. I don’t recognize that party anymore – it was hijacked!
February 9, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Yes, it never was JFK doing anything for civil rights – all he did at the most was pay some lip service in some speeches.
JFK didn’t want to upset the Dixiecrats in his party!
February 9, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Now that the Obot has gotten the US into an extremely high deficit situation it would not be prudent to talk about cutting taxes.
At this point in time any cutting of taxes, even if necessary could be devastating for other reasons.
What is looming right now is the return of Stagflation – high unemployment and high inflation. A tax cut in such an environment would cause the inflation rate to go higher without solving the unemployment problem.
What is needed first is a reduction in the deficit by reducing welfare spending. It is vital for the health of the US economy.
February 9, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Speaking of which….
Have you seen were there are rumors that Communist China is planning on selling a lot of U.S. government bonds to send the message of how unhappy they are with the run-away printing press used to finance these Trillion Dollar Deficits?
February 9, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Very interesting piece. Basically Obama depends upon the elites, i.e., those who are highly educated and/or highly monied. The blue-collar Dem is not elitist, so she/he is also not Obamaist. The Clintons, whether you agree with them or not, do connect much better with the average Joes and Joannes. And Sarah Palin connects with average folks, too.
February 9, 2010 at 12:14 pm
That’s why I would love to see DISCUSSION about the benefits of a Clinton Palin ticket, even if the odds are remote of it happening. A Pros and Cons discussion if you will.
February 9, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Wouldn’t that be a dream ticket?
Hillary/Sarah on one ticket – the American Ticket!
February 9, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Oh, I don’t know about the Clinton’s not being able to connect with the people. They certainly did well during and after the “Monica” debacle. Any woman who had ever been cheated on empathized with Hillary and any man who had ever strayed and got caught empathized with Bill.
After the ’94 drubbing by the voters, President Clinton handled it perfectly in every political sense. He went before the people and said “I hear you” and then worked with his arch enemy Newt to cut taxes, trash that version of health care that was also done in secret, to reform welfare, and cut spending. I will say this for Newt… History records that he worked hard WITH the president to get things done that both wanted. It appears that once he became speaker he stopped campaigning and began doing the work. Both ended up well respected in that respect. The tax cuts spurred the economy and the investors jumped into the market again – the economy boomed. It’s too bad that we don’t have those kind of public servants in our congress and in our White House.
February 9, 2010 at 9:22 pm
That’s why the elitists (and the GOP has more than its fair share of elitist snobs too) hate Sarah and the Clintons.
Plus they are far and away much superior politicans!
February 9, 2010 at 10:25 pm
The GOP has MORE than it’s share of elitist snobs. One would hope that they don’t think they can just co-opt the tea party movement, because they are in for a big surprise. The people, whether they agree with the tea partiers or not – are just fed up with Washington – ALL of Washington. We have to cut up their credit cards and put them on a serious budget. The Happy Days Are Here Again group that just arrived in DC just put an explanation point on what we were all simmering about.
February 9, 2010 at 12:12 pm
This video may match your feelings in 2008.
February 9, 2010 at 12:13 pm
but it seems Hispanics have no loyalty to any party, really, and become increasingly conservative as they start to do better the longer they are established here.
They will never understand this. The last thing the current dems want is for immigrants to assimilate. Keep them on the government plantation with struggling black Americans and whoa betide them if they attempt to throw off the yoke and succeed AS A FAMILY.
Progressive policies are individual centered, not family centered. The death knell of progressive politics is the strong family unit, grounded in faith and educated in reality.
February 9, 2010 at 3:50 pm
The leftists need victims or they have no power base.
Zo says it nicely, here:
February 9, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Are you saying…..
that without victims, they can no longer be the victimizers?
February 9, 2010 at 12:13 pm
“they are becoming a black, urban elite, fresh out of college party.”
I’d have to disagree with you on the black bit. From what I’ve seen and heard, black people are the next group that are questioning their kneejerk votes for the Democrats. That’s especially true for Afro-Caribbeans, as opposed to “African Americans”. I honestly think the next defections will be from the black vote. This is not so much from the soi disant elites, but from the aspiring classes who can’t forgive what the Dems have done to black education (as well as things like crime – black thugs target poor blacks 90+% of the time) in their 40 year domination.
February 9, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Once they lose their hold on the black vote, the Democratic Party is done, in it’s current form. The final torpedo in the hull will be true education reform. Defund the Dept. of Education, which serves no purpose other than the perpetuation of discredited and useless liberal gobbelty-gook along with counterproductive teacher’s unions.
Education belongs with the States.
February 9, 2010 at 3:30 pm
It’s going to take a good long time, though.
February 9, 2010 at 3:53 pm
I disagree. I think most of these people will hold their noses and vote Democrat anyway, or just not vote. For one, because the D’s have been lying to them for so long about Republicans/conservatives and, for two, that the R’s have been so very bad at getting any counter message across.
They don’t see that they have anywhere else to go.
February 9, 2010 at 3:58 pm
I am wondering if the blacks in D.C. will hold their noses and continue to vote Democrat. The voucher fiasco could have consequences.
February 9, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Is it reasonable to think that a group of citizens that denigrates as “acting white” members of its own ethnicity really values a quality education and is REALLY upset over the voucher question?
February 9, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I hope you’re right, Maggie, but they are the same people who re-elected Marion Barry.
February 9, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Many will vote D “because they have nowhere else to go” but I think there will be a lot of stay-at-homes in November that would normally come out if Obama asked them to. He’s lost credibility and many have lost faith in him.
Here in NJ, that is what happened last November. Those many Hillary voters who gave The Ego a chance, came out in droves to vote against Corzine despite Obama’s 5 visits to NJ to campaign for him. And despite those 5 visits asking the cities to come out and vote – they didn’t.
Have faith.
February 9, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Need help here understanding something. I missed something over the weekend apparently. What is the flap over Sarah Palin and the notes she’s written on her hands?
I understand there is a flap. I just don’t understand the details. Perhaps it is because I misunderstood the first reports I read about it. I was under the impression that Sarah Palin wrote notes on a 3×5-in. card, the notes being topics to discuss in a speech. Then during the speech she just spoke extemporaneously about the topics on the card.
Then I saw the “Hi Mom!” on the hand pic. Someone help me out here–with a Readers Digest version of this stuff. Please. Thanks!
February 9, 2010 at 12:25 pm
She had six words written on the palm of her right hand, which were spotted during her speech at the tea party convention. They were “energy”, “taxes”, and a few others. High points to remember in her speech. The MSM made a huge deal about it, as did HuffPost etc. A day or two later she was campaigning with Rick Perry, and wrote on her hand, “Hi, Mom!”, to tweak the media. Great move!
February 9, 2010 at 1:37 pm
She should attach a mini-teleprompter to her hand, and then show it to all and say “this one is smaller than the one President Obama uses.”
February 9, 2010 at 4:00 pm
that is an hilarious suggestion.
A Palm Pilot would do the trick. :-)
February 9, 2010 at 4:47 pm
I hope SNL borrows your suggestion! But of course they will not as it would put Palin in a good light.
February 9, 2010 at 9:33 pm
LOL
The Palm Pilot with Instant One Finger Messaging!
February 9, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Thank you for clarifying that. I completely misunderstood what she had done when word got out. I thought she had used a 3×5 card. I was mistaken.
That’s pretty cool, though, that anyone can give coherent speech with nothing but a few words to suggest what to say! How impressive is that?! I bet Sarah doesn’t mispronounce “corpsman”!
February 9, 2010 at 9:34 pm
The Lamestream Media are just SORE LOSERS because so many jokes have been made about Obama using two teleprompters to even speak before a class of 6th graders, has mispronounced common words such as corpseman, etc.
Lamestream Media Losers!
February 9, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Thanks for the comments. I keep telling “Hopey-Changey” cultists that I was a voting Democrat for years, and although still registered as a Democrat, I voted for McCain (My first vote for a Republican ever). They are in the the land of denial because they keep saying “That can’t be true; You were never a Democrat,” or “There are only a few of you.” And it’s not only quite a few Hillary voters who have left the Democratic plantation. I was an Edwards supporter, but knew too much about Obama to ever vote for him. I will never vote blindly for the party again, and the extreme misogyny and vitriol against Sarah Palin helped clinch that.
Thanks for all you do, hillboyz.
February 9, 2010 at 1:04 pm
My past voting was the same as your’s. I never voted for any Republican in my life until 2008 when I voted a straight Republican ticket in Florida as an FU to the DNC and the Democratic party in general. I’ll be voting Republican again on November. I want the lying, scheming current version of the Democratic party destroyed. They are only beginning to feel the wrath of Democrats like myself. They need to be punished severely, so I am not done voting against them. Boot the ultra liberals out of the party, and I will consider their candidates again. Until that happens, the Democratic party can kiss my Republican voting ass.
February 9, 2010 at 4:02 pm
I wish you well in this matter. I am an outsider here, and I do feel that the current crop of Democrats are nearly all disgusting.
February 9, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Thanks. I have to agree with you.
February 9, 2010 at 9:36 pm
AMEN!
Same plans here!
February 9, 2010 at 12:22 pm
It was Zell Miller who said “I didn’t leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me.”
February 9, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Great guy – wonder what he is doing now?
February 9, 2010 at 3:41 pm
According to references, writing books and teaching at Young Harris College.
At 77.
February 9, 2010 at 12:32 pm
And Zell Miller was a guy who worked for the PEOPLE not for big government.
Sadly, the Democratic party doesn’t have leaders like Zell Miller anymore.
February 9, 2010 at 5:30 pm
He was the best governor our state has had for as long as I’ve lived here. Of course that doesn’t sound like as huge a compliment as I intended when you think about the likes of Lester “Axe Handle” Maddox and his protege Jimmah Carter who preceded Gov/Sen Miller ;)!
February 9, 2010 at 1:07 pm
The Zell Miller/Scoop Jackson dems had the best interests of the country at heart.
February 9, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Scooooop! I was a Scoop J Dem as a kid in the ’70′s. Mom was a huge fan.
February 9, 2010 at 4:09 pm
I was a Scoop Republican! Loved Miller too.
February 9, 2010 at 5:15 pm
No, Ronald Reagan said it first.
February 9, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Actually, Zell stole that from Ronald Reagan, who was an FDR Democrat for much of his adult years. He was the president of the Actors Union. During his tenure, he found that there were a tremendous amount of what he called “fellow travelers” in the union [what we would call Alinskyites] and he fought to keep them out of the executive board. He was shocked that so many of the actors, writers, directors were enthralled with the new socialism. He was hated by the left long before he got involved in politics. They never forgave him for his strong actions to keep them out of the decision making positions in the Screen Guild.
When he campaigned for Goldwater in 1964, a seismic shift in Hollywood, and he was asked by the media “Why did you leave the Democratic Party” He answered “I didn’t leave the Democrats. They left me.”
February 9, 2010 at 12:48 pm
My mothers family was democrats.. back when it was a party of farmers and blue collar normal people. They are huge republicans now.
My family’s values havent changed. The dems have.
February 9, 2010 at 1:11 pm
After Utopia’s inaugration, I remember Juan Williams calling the GOP a “rump, party.” Remember the post mortems done on the Republicans a year ago? That’s why the pundit class should be ignored for Palin’s Presidential ambitions, they are ALWAYS wrong.
I always enjoy reading about people’s political metamorphosis, its always fascinated me. It never gets old, reading about your misadventures with the modern Dem Party.
February 9, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I am not quite sure if I could be referred to as a Reagan Democrat because my first presidential vote in 1980 was against him. I voted against him in 1984, too. Right now, I have evolved, and I will give Reagan credit for the positives that came from him especially in foreign affairs. I have always been a believer in a militarily strong country.
I relate to the term Jacksonian Democrat somewhat, and I am definitely a Clinton Democrat, with the knowledge that the Clintons aren’t saints, but intelligent people who have America’s interest at heart. I know that I don’t agree with them 100% of the time, but I also know that the 1990′s seemed to be a pretty good time for America. I understand that the Republican contolled Congress was helpful with this, too, but wish that they were not so intent on trying to cause failure in the Clinton White House. Today, I am happy to help Republicans emasculate the current socialist Democratic party because this party is no longer a party that I can support in it’s current version. I want a Democratic party that is centrist on domestic policy, and strong on foreign policy. That would describe me as a JFK Democrat.
February 9, 2010 at 2:32 pm
From the weekly article “In addition to the demography, there was geography. Obama ran well in urban enclaves. He also did well in college towns and state capitals. But he did poorly in the suburbs and in smaller industrial towns.”
And The DNC (Donna, we don’t need you stay home you vile Hillary supporters Brazille) KNEW this would be how it would play out, which is why they rigged the delegates in such a way, the urban voters votes counted for more than the rest of the state. which is how Obama could win the cities and Hillary the other 80%ish of many states and Obama would get almost as many delegates OR more than Hillary.
Not to mention moving the primaries around to help Obama in the beginning, not counting Mi and Florida ect AND Hillary STILL had more votes and they neeeded to STEAL HER delegates and give them to Dr.U along with delegates from Staes he took his name off the ballot.
FWIW the ONLY reason I am still a registerred Dem, beside the Clintons, is I live in a state with closed primaries and, don’t want to register as a Republican and IND can’t vote in our primaries. I do have to add, I used to think all states had closed primaries and i was surprised and never saw the sense in letting people registerred in other parties vote and have a say in Who your candidate was.
February 9, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Same here Lyn.
I live in an extremely GOP tilted state with closed primaries.
So if I don’t vote in the Dem local primaries I have zero say in who ends up running.
February 10, 2010 at 10:50 am
I think the best solution is what Michigan USED to do. We had one combined primary, and you could select either Dem or Rep candidates, but not both or mixed. You didn’t have to register as one or the other. We don’t declare party affiliation in Michigan. Then, in 2000, the Dems decided to caucus, on a separate day. So they could vote in the Dem caucus, then again in the primary. That is how McCain carried Michigan in 2000. With Dem votes. They did not want Bush to be the Rep candidate.
February 10, 2010 at 11:57 am
One of the problems IMO with open primaries (or caucuses) because of the way they are spread out over months, is IF once party has ther nominee at the beginning, (or if their party has the sitting POTUS that is running unopposed)There really is no reason for people to vote in their OWN primary, so can vote for the candidate they want from the other party.
IF all states had closed primaries it would cut down on those games and each parties voter would decide their own nominee.
February 10, 2010 at 11:59 am
I hit send too soon, but it kept reminded me of 2 sports teams. Could you imagine letting the opposing team deciding who your team’s line up or starting pitcher ect or who had to sit out the game?
February 9, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Articles like this and the recent elections in Mass, NJ,Va, make me wonder even MORE what the difference would have been in 2008 IF more Repubicans voted instead of staying home because McCain wasn’t conservative enough and tho teach the Republicans a lesson would have been.
I wonder how many Republicans that voted in Mass, Nj and Va to stop the Dems voted in 2008. Are they the people that are making a difference now? I know that some of the Dems that supported Hillary, but voted for Obama aren’t happy at all with what Obama and the other Dems are doing to our country. But don’t know if that many went to vote and voted republican now to help Brown and Cristi, or is it that more Republicans that stayed hom in 08 regret it so voted now. I live in NJ, and the Dems I know that voted for Obama, even tho they didn’t like him voted for Corzine for governor not Cristie. The Dems I know that voted to Cristie are the same one that voted for Mccain. Some Dems that voted for Obama and are disgusted with what is going on now, just stayed home.
February 9, 2010 at 3:34 pm
I thought that “staying home to teach them a lesson” was really stupid, because it just results in someone winning. Just not the person you’d want winning, in the first place.
I’ll admit that I “stayed” home for a couple of elections, especially locals, because there was practically no information and I don’t like voting blind, or I researched the candidates and they all seemed like kooks to me.
February 9, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Staying home for the locals when you don’t really know who they are isn’t a bad thing at all. Better to face what you know and don’t know and act accordingly.
On POTUS and VPOTUS and Senators, etc., one would be hard pressed NOT to know something significant about those running. If you watch the news at all, you’d know something.
You are absolutely right: Staying home to teach someone a lesson is STUPID. Sometimes we have to pick the lesser of two evils.
February 9, 2010 at 8:33 pm
That was so maddening. I’m registered Republican, but it made me absolutely crazy to hear people talking about just not voting to “teach the national Republicans a thing or two”. Wonder if they think the lesson was worth it today?
I told as many people as I could tell that it was important to vote AGAINST obama, that we had to keep him OUT of office. My vote “for” McCain/Palin was as much a vote against obama as anything.
Narrow-focus voters are so maddening to deal with. I remember the same thing in ’92 when Papa Bush lost to Clinton because a bunch of conservatives were freaking about their pocketbooks…and were willing to sell their conservative pro-life position down the river in a minute, because Carville was scaring them with his focus on the economy. That was when I first became very, very conscious of the destruction of single issue voters and narrowly educated voters. Man, they can do a lot of damage by omission because they can’t be bothered to do enough thinking to understand the issues for the nation. Same reason Carter was elected: Christians (Iareone) were SO SURE he would be so marvelous as president. My question to them was, “Based on what?” Grrrr
February 9, 2010 at 9:45 pm
So you are saying Single issue voters and narrow focus voters are lazy I think. No?
February 9, 2010 at 9:56 pm
I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE THAT JUGEARS BEING ELECTED WAS PROBABLY THE BEST THING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE USA IN A LONG TIME!!! IT HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO PULL THE FREEDOM LOVING PATRIOTS OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY TOGETHER (THE TEA PARTY)LIKE NOTHING ELSE EVER COULD— THIS MOVEMENT HAS BEEN NEEDED FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS(SINCE REGAN)—- THE PROGRESSIVES D”S AND R”S CAME REAL CLOSE TO RUINING THE USA— BUT NO MORE—-THE AWAKENING HAS BEGUN—–WE HAVE BEEN DUMBED DOWN LONG ENOUGH—THANKS JUGEARS
February 9, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Faye, I have concluded the same!
Best thing that could have happened to America – but of course for all the wrong reasons it came about.
February 9, 2010 at 5:56 pm
The financial business people I deal with who live in NJ voted for Dr. Utopia. They all, every single one of them, voted for Christie. And every last one of them is sorry they voted for Dr. Utopia. They are all still liberals at heart but are all questioning, “What happened to the Party? This is not the Party I knew.” One of them even used the word surreal.
I get to socialize a lot with these clients this time of year as I reside in south Florida and they like to escape all of that “glo-bull warming white stuff.” Interestingly enough we have had some very great conversations of late. Suddenly I am not a right-winger but a centrist. Suddenly they actually listen and hear what I am saying during a discussion.
I think we are seeing a great pivot right. And I also believe it is going to stay that way for a long, long time.
Ronald Reagan said, “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
I think that Dr. Utopia got one thing right. We are the ones we have been waiting for. We stood up, stopped our every day lives and did something to keep America free.
My liberal friends stated that the abusive opposition to the Tea Party movement is what smacked them right between the eyes. They quoted Harry Truman.
“Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.”
They told me that that is the spirit of the Democrat party they know not Obama/Pelosi/Reid.
I think we are all going to go back to one happy country. The progressives will have a temper tantrum but who cares.
Like Reagan said and Palin repeated the other night, “We win, they lose.”
I’m proud to know all of you cyberfriends. You’re great Americans.
February 9, 2010 at 6:29 pm
My friends from NJ were also telling me that there is a recall petition for Senator Menendez in NJ.
http://biggovernment.com/pferrara/2010/02/09/the-right-of-recall/#more-72582
February 9, 2010 at 6:47 pm
From what was reported by the analysts after the election, it was the independents who voted for Obama that put Christie over the top. The R’s came out in droves – largest voting in my district evah. Obama has lost them – and probably can’t get them back. Ornery bunch – they don’t trust/like government much – and they want less of it. I have no idea why they gave BO a chance. It was so obvious that he was all about more and bigger government – but they regret it now and came out to send a message to the D party in NJ and in DC.
February 9, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I keep reading the R’s came out in droves too. That why I wonder how many of the R’s that helped Christie (and Brown ect) stayed home instead of voting for McCain. I know many of the Ind that voted for Obama voted for Christi, but I wonder if the Republicans that stayed home in 08 are amking a difference by voting now, it will be interesting to watch in the Nov elections or any elections that come up before then.
February 9, 2010 at 8:41 pm
It will be interesting indeed! I think that the tea party events have energized the voting public. Seeing thousands of people show up with signs and chants on tv has made people think – “hey! I’m not the only one who feels this way.” So Massachusetts had a record number of voters for a “special election”. And NJ voters were so fed up with Corzine and before that McGreevy, they just made time to vote. My neighbor was going to Florida – she drove to city hall and voted absentee. She never did that in her life. There’s always that proverbial straw that breaks the back of the camel. I think Obama’s arrogance and polices are the last two straws.
Unfortunately, for him, it appears he has no mechanism to “change” himself. He can’t admit mistakes and doesn’t know how to humble himself.
February 9, 2010 at 3:14 pm
As a GLBTQ voter in the capitol city, Olympia, WA, I’ve become outraged with what is going on here with Senators Murry and Cantwell and our spending out-of-control Governor, Christine Gregoire we need to get all these CROOKS out of office NOW!!!
I had to take a good, long, hard look at where my values lie, and really open my eyes. It’s really difficult living in one of the most leftist, radical, progressive parts of the country. The attacks and threats I’ve had for moving right and supporting Palin are UNBELIEVABLE. I feel your pain, Hillbuzz boys!! I can relate to the trolling quite a bit…I just hope these people here in Western WA also realize how The Progressives in office are destroying our great nation, The Constitution, and if things keep on the path that they are going, I can see all our Liberties slip away one by one. But not without one hell of a fight from me! Keep up the good work, guys!!!!!!!
February 9, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Progressivism is just a euphemism for Marxism since Marxism is such an unpalatable term for democracy minded people.
I heart your comments. I lived in New Jersey for most of my life, but now live in Florida for the past 3 years. New Jersey has only 21 counties, and I happened to live in the northwest part of the state which was solidly Republican which always made me feel a little out of place politically. Here in this area of Florida, with all of the transplants from the northeast and midwest, there seems to be almost an even split of Democrats to Republicans, with many independents. I dont feel as out of place here even though I have also shifted to the right, and suspect that I will remain there for some time. I’m still a registered Democrat because I want to help choose the what I hope will be the best Democrat for a political race while I have faith that the Republicans choose the best on their side. Once the general election is held between the Republican and Democrat candidates, I will vote for the Republican. If the Democrat wins, then I will just have to hope that he was the Democrat that I had voted for in the primary since that Democrat would most likely have been the one whose political beliefs were closest to mine even though I would have preferred the Republican candidate to have been victorious. In other words, I want centrists or center right candidates to win, and at this time, I believe that the Republican candidates would best exemplify what is now politically acceptable to me. In the past, centrist, center right, or center left candidates would all have been acceptable to me. Now the center left candidates can forget about my vote in any general election.
February 9, 2010 at 3:24 pm
My prediction:
1. Hillary resigns as SoS in late summer/early fall 2010. She has earned her foreign policy chops.
2. She spends the next 12 months ramping up her political machine and giving policy speeches.
3. She announces in Aug 2011 that she will challenge Obama for the 2012 Dem nomination.
4.She gets the nod because there is lots of Dem buyer’s remorse out there.
February 9, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I believe you are correct. The timeline and everything add up for me. I agree with you.
February 9, 2010 at 9:54 pm
If Hillary runs in 2012, then I expect the Clinton machine will
RIP THE CURRENT UN-DEMOCRATIC PARTY INSIDE OUT – and all the current Fascist/Sociolists (yes that means you too “Da Rues!” Brazile) will be un-employable!
February 9, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I’ve been reading about how the Gay community in NC (correct me if I’m wrong) are closing up their purses and not donating to the Democrats because of DADT. Since that’s considerable $$$, what would happen if the gay community on a national level decided to follow this?
February 9, 2010 at 9:56 pm
They should stop donating in total.
You think maybe that is why Obama spent as much time in the SOTU speech talking about DADT as he did on terrorism? Because Dem Donations are way way way down?
Last I saw last year they were running below 25% or lower for the first quarter or half of 2009.
February 9, 2010 at 3:52 pm
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February 9, 2010 at 5:44 pm
There’s a wild card in the voting mix that hasn’t been discussed. How many traditionally republican leaning suburbs went inexplicably for Obama or the dems over the last election cycle?
It wasn’t because the dems won the area over. Something else happened in many areas: those that had traditionally voted R
in election after election had moved, often to other districts.
What had made them move was heavy build up of HUD rentals, and Low Income Housing Tax Credit refinanced properties.
When the number of units is high enough in a given area, that area essentially ceases to be a suburb, and turns into the hood.
Another bit of HUD jinks that have made this happen in location after location is the recent practice of tearing down older projects in the inner city, and sending the tenants out to the burbs. This has been going on since the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, with disastrous results for suburban schools, crime, and property values.
Atlanta’s one place where the projects have been torn down. Dayton, Ohio is another. Do any Hillbuzz regulars have any other locations to report on where this has happened? It’s very non-PC, but I refer to the practice as “Taking out the trash” (to the burbs).
February 9, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Yes. High rise projects have been torn down in both Newark, NJ and Paterson, NJ. Some are still slated to be torn down in Paterson, I believe, but due to the current economy, that’s probably on hold for now. In place of the projects, two and three story townhomes (aka row homes) have been built, but I am not sure if they absorbed all of the families that lived in the projects that were torn down. These townhomes actually looked nice when first completed. Since I have been away from NJ for just over 3 years, I don’t know what condition these new homes are in today. I don’t think that I would want to live in them because of issues concerning crime in those areas. The look may be nicer, but the same bad elements that pervaded the projects still remain in the area.
February 9, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Smaller urban centers never had the old fashion high-rise low-income housing blocks or had very very few of them. However, the smaller cities have also followed the scatter-shot approach to spreading the low-income housing around to all areas of their cities.
From reports of the local police and fellow citizens, that too has resulted in crime hot spots spread all over the cities. So you end up with very affluent (often gated) neighborhoods in the small cities, right next to massive appartment and rental condo units of low income populations. Often the more affluent up and sell, even though they are moving only a few miles to another part of the same city.
February 9, 2010 at 10:26 pm
I’d also like to hear more reports from posters here concerning elected officials from their areas who belong to
NACO (National Association of County Officials).
A few years ago, I and some others in my area did a study of what was causing our schools to fail and crime to skyrocket.
The answer was the continual overbuilding of apartments, often leading to foreclosures. Once the foreclosures occurred, instead of buying up the smallest, oldest, and cheapest, they refinanced them, giving their buddies tax credits in the process.
The head official of my county (Dekalb, metro Atlanta) is the vice president of NACO.
NACO is comprised of county comissioners from throughout the US. I’m a pretty good student of Geography, and I know many areas of the US that have deteriorated further due to Apartment overbuilding and refis for tax credits. Many of the same areas have county officials that belong to NACO.
Part of NACO’s platform is championing more building and subsidization of “affordable housing”, the exact thing that is causing so many areas to no longer be viable.
Any elected official that’s in an area on the decline that buys into such logic should be considered a traitor to their constituents
(IMHO).
Hillbuzz guys: to bring this all home. Isn’t Chicago right next to Lake County?
Did you know the former head county comissioner of Lake County was the former president of NACO? Did you know how much section 8 was created in Lake County under his watch? Has anyone remarked to you how Lake County suddenly managed to obtain a much larger indigent hispanic population then surrounding areas?
Final point. NACO’s platforms on housing and many other social issues seem to be similar to causes ACORN would champion. NACO’s initials also seem to read like an ACORN acronym. Anybody know if there’s a link between the two?
February 9, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Never watch Behar, but this woman from Smart Chicks kicks these Progressives to the curb!
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/02/pamela-geller-destroys-ron-reagan-jr-on-joy-behar-show-video/
February 9, 2010 at 8:56 pm
I don’t believe the Democratic Party has been destroyed. It’s been hijacked by very far left people, but these things have a way of correcting themselves over time. Kind of like a pendulum. I’m a lifelong Republican who voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 because I felt my party had gotten too far right on the social stuff. Some very idealistic people voted for Barack Obama because he said a lot of nice stuff in a very nice way. Well, he’s been unmasked as the tin-eared, stubborn, socialist-leaning rookie that most of the people that really pay attention to politics knew he was all along. Hopefully, the country will come through his disastrous presidency without too much serious damage and we’ll get a more reasonable person next time.
This nation thrives on competition. I want a strong and rational Democratic party just as much as I want a strong and rational Republican party. Total one party rule isn’t good for very long no matter which party it is. Democrats deserve to be out of power for a good long while to re-think this leftist nonsense, but it may prove to have been helpful to have naked progressive policies on display for a while. As the article’s author pointed out – once they’re tried they can be discredited pretty effectively.
In the meantime, we who voted for McCain/Palin have no reason to feel guilty for this creep being in office. The 2010 midterms should be a fun time so break out the popcorn! It’s going to be fun watching the Hillbuzz list of “bad guys/gals” get their comeuppance.
February 9, 2010 at 9:12 pm
ICK ICK ICK. CLASSLESS.
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/white-house-mocks-sarah-295005.html
Hello…I mean, seriously? Is he in grade school? Obama thinks this is okay – for his people to be doing? Ick. So great an example.
February 9, 2010 at 10:09 pm
AtlMom, that White House Goober Man’s act is truly the act of a TOTAL LOSER MAN!
February 9, 2010 at 10:36 pm
I have no clue who these radical america-loathing lunatics in the DNC or the democrat’s party are now. As an immigrant, as soon as I was a citizen, I registered as a democrat, voted for a democrat consistently and loyally.
Thought conservatives were a bunch of woman hating racists. That is when I believed what the MSM and the dems on how they defined conservatism. And I believed them, mainly b/c they (dems/MSM) use social conservatism to define all of conservatism, and I am not a social conservative, but I am very conservative when it comes to pretty much every other issue.
Mark Levin is correct when he says conservative values are american values.
After what I saw done to Hillary, my eyes were/are so open, I never and still don’t believe what the “democratic” party did to Hillary. And then now to insult hard working middle class workers like me? people who attend Tea Partys??
Who are these people?
I have now reregistered as an Independent, and have not looked back, I am not a repub, never will be, but I do consider myself a conservative Independent (but a social moderate). I will not be voting for a democrat for a LONG time. I will not forget what these lunatics tried to do on Dec. 24th at 1am, passed a PO$ rationcare bill that majority of Americans did not want. These people abused the power given to them ,why should they ever be trusted with power again??
Loyalty to the US Constitution, and the country comes first, not loyalty to some radical now lunatic party (or any political party for that matter).
February 9, 2010 at 11:11 pm
AMEN!
February 10, 2010 at 12:31 am
The two major parties believe their values and policies best represent the American people? Don’t you tell us that you are, we’ll tell you if you are.
February 10, 2010 at 1:49 am
Thanks so much Hillbuzz for your article. After what happened in 2008, this life-long dem of about 40 years felt like a “stranger in a strange land”. I voted straight republican for the first time in my life and actually did some campaigning for republicans here in our state – another first for me plus my husband and I proudly displayed yard signs of republican candidates – something that shocked friends at our church who considered us the “liberals”.
I’m not certain if I’m a Jacksonian democrat but I’m definitely a Clinton dem.
For some reason Bill Clinton reminded me of the Kennedys, i. e. JFK and RFK. He seemed to have the same qualities of charismatic leadership but yet he came across as caring about the ordinary person. Hillary has it too and that’s why I campaigned for her in the dem. primaries/caucuses of 2008. Sarah Palin also has it and so does Scott Brown.
2008 was a very bad year for many of we life-long dems but now I’m very hopeful. I don’t know what the future of the democratic party is and I really don’t care anymore because many of the democrats in Washington right now do not reflect the values or the wishes of their constituents. They serve only the corrupt leadership in the White House and congress. The sooner they can be thrown out of office, the better.
February 10, 2010 at 6:51 am
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February 22, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I agree with your story. As a conservative Democrat, we have to have less government and more state rights here. I am also upset by unions such as SEIU tied into Acorn! I am a pro- union person, but now would have to vote out a union because they are evil in nature. Too bad. Socialist movements have to go!
Keep up the good work!
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