Seriously, this is one of those moments, like when we first saw Scott Brown’s Cosmo spread and proclaimed the man Hottie McAwesome.
Chuck Devore won many new fans by getting this “Stop the Demon Sheep” site up so fast — lampooning Carly Fiorina for attacking one of her opponents with an ad featuring, as Devore calls them, “jawa-like, Terminator-esque demon sheep”.
We really, really like this guy.
As for Fiorina, she’s a nice person. We liked her because she was really nice to us in the Democrats for McCain days. We feel sorry for her because she had cancer. But, she’s run a terrible campaign, she’s refused to self-fund, and we want to see Barbara Boxer defeated.
So, as of today, if it wasn’t already clear before, we’re 100% behind Chuck Devore.
If his team is this fast on their feet, and this creative, in the primary, we can only delight at the prospects of what he’ll do to Barbara “Call me Senator” Boxer in the general election.
Who would have thought we’d see demon sheep this far from Sunnydale…and they’d be so creepily adorable?
February 4, 2010 at 2:40 am
Thinking about getting YES WE SHAM! as the slogan on my demonsheep shirt http://tinyurl.com/yd9adbg
February 4, 2010 at 2:42 am
Trying to get to sleep by counting demonsheep
February 4, 2010 at 2:50 am
#demonsheep is a top 10 trending topic on Twitter right now. (Holy alliteration, Batman!)
February 4, 2010 at 4:41 am
haha… I must have missed the memo on sheep, but still funny and Chuck D. seems like he has a sense of humor at least!
= = =
OFF TOPIC but wanted to share link from CanadaFreePress called “Who’s afraid of the big bad Soros?”
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/19648
Tidbi “… it makes perfect sense that Soros is the de facto head of the Democratic Party in America now that it is a foaming-at-the-mouth, rabid, left-wing Democratic Party. As David Horowitz and Richard Poe put it, ‘Soros and his Shadow Party did not invent the politics of demagoguery and racial division. They are merely practicing and expanding the politics familiar on the Democratic Left.’ … “
February 4, 2010 at 9:16 pm
I’m replying to myself: I found the sheep video, watched it with no volume (I’m at work) and waited until the 2:20 mark… FRIGGIN’ HILARIOUS… almost spit coffee on my keyboard…
I think the demon sheep would make an EXCELLENT halloween costume…
February 4, 2010 at 6:05 am
Hillboyz—DeVore has been my guy for a long time what with family in CA> Will he have a phone banking operation like Scott Brown? Let me remind everyone that in the state legislature he wanted to drill offshore and use the royalties to pay down the Calif. deficit….it was so repellent an idea to the LIbs that they not only voted it down, they had it expunged from the record…..he fights the good fight pretty much alone. We need to change that!
February 4, 2010 at 6:52 am
I thought I heard a news report that Fiorina had finally put her own money in the game.
February 4, 2010 at 7:23 am
Being in CA, Devore is the man. First donation will be made this week! Hopefully we can get him funded and supported like Scott Brown! CA needs a political earthquake of epic proportions! Would love to see Waxman & Piglosi gone as well!
February 4, 2010 at 7:43 pm
And Maxine Waters and Diane Watson and and and …
February 4, 2010 at 8:40 pm
AMEN!!!!!
February 4, 2010 at 7:47 am
DeVore is an energetic doer of gutsy deeds. He went to the University of California at Irvine to film Muslim students promoting anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism and publicly confronted them. He’s unique!
February 4, 2010 at 8:30 am
Woo hoo, DeVore is our newest little (big) lambchop!
February 4, 2010 at 9:14 am
Chucky the Demon Sheep Slayer!
February 4, 2010 at 9:18 am
[...] State Initial Report Signals Whitewash and Thursday Open Thread: Washington Edition Hillbuzz: Great Merciful Zeus — you must stop the demon sheep and Question: Why do you think Obama isn’t going to the Winter Olympics? and Photoshop [...]
February 4, 2010 at 9:21 am
I would like to see Carly Fiorina succeed and do awesome in her campaign. She has certainly been an ally to you in the past. Have you considered writing her with some helpful suggestions for her campaign?
February 4, 2010 at 4:15 pm
there is room for both Fiorina and DeVore.
If one of them chose to go against Pelosi it would be dynamite.
February 4, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Oooh – I’d pay money to see a Fiorina/Pelosi smackdown…
February 4, 2010 at 9:27 am
Hillbuzz, I understand people reasoning behind campaigning against Coakley because you wanted to send a message to DC, but I’ll say it one more time. Women only comprise 17% of congress. We will never have a government of the people, for the people, if half the people are continually thrown under the bus.
Women are always soft targets. They’re the first to go in every political sweep. I’ve watched the people of Mass. campaign against Coakley, I’ve watched Ford try to challenge Gillibrand’s seat, I watched women shown the door in Illinois, and now I’m watching people toss Fiorina into the rubbish heap. I’m taking notes and I’m keeping score just as I did when I watched Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin being attacked and rejected, and I’m not liking what I’m seeing.
This country is depriving itself of the talents of half the human race. It’s no wonder that the quality of our government is so low. Of the people, for the people isn’t going to happen if we simply pick women off one by one.
February 4, 2010 at 9:49 am
As a woman, I agree with you on the general principle, all other things being equal, vote for the woman.
But do you see that all things are not equal? Boxer is NOT representative of me in CA. She must go. Seriously. I emailed, faxed, called last year and she, like so many liberal Senators, totally ignored me.
Our country is in a crisis. What we need are the most CONSERVATIVE candidates. If those are women, great. If those are men, so be it. I will vote for the best candidate and I have met Chuck DeVore IN PERSON. I met him at the Michele Bachmann fundraiser last week. Chuck ROCKS! He and I and 6 other Twitter people stood around talking policy and everything he said I agree with. He has a level head on his shoulder and I am comfortable with him.
Carly has had a website up for some time with the theme “Carlyfornia Dreamin’”. Ummm, sorry. Guess what, Carly. This race is not about YOU. And then she approves an ad with DEMON SHEEP? Ridiculous! She cannot be a serious thinker, and that is what CA needs right now. A conservative who can think on his feet.
So you go ahead and keep score. Go ahead and accuse the Hillbuzz boyz of sexism. I doubt you will deter them from their patriotic fervor. They are too savvy for that.
February 4, 2010 at 9:59 am
“Of the people, for the people isn’t going to happen if we simply pick women off one by one.”
And a truly decent government can’t happen as long as we CARE whether someone is a woman, black(or white or chinese), gay/straight, etc. The ONLY thing that matters is who’s the better person for the job, and in this case it’s clearly NOT Carly Fiorina. Gender is not can SHOULD not be an issue for any reason whatsoever.
Oh, and with all due respect, if you are really comparing Fiorina to Sarah Palin(or yes, even Hillary Clinton) then you’re obviously not paying attention.
February 4, 2010 at 10:41 am
Opus and MarkF,
I could not agree with you more. We do not need a woman in office just for the affirmative action part of it. What matters is the person, not their gender or color of their skin etc. Many are now waking up to how damaging that kind of thinking can be — look at the Utopia example.
P.S. I love the language of the Left. “Affirmative Action” is the term used instead of “No More Qualified Hard Working White Men Allowed”.
Palin is not rejected by the liberal media because of gender. She is rejected because she represents all they fear: hard work, middle class, conservatism, honesty, intelligence, and, yes, attractive all rolled up into one Utopia smashing package.
February 4, 2010 at 10:11 am
I don’t have to accuse anybody of sexism. Sexism is simply the law of the land and has been for a few hundred years.
Saying the country is in crisis and we need change is exactly the same rationalization behind throwing Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton under the bus. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. You cannot have a government of the people, for the people if women do not become a big part of the process.
You’re trying to knock out Boxer and Fiorina, two women, as if that will equal some sort of victory. It won’t, it simply sends more men to DC. Genuine change requires that we avail ourselves of the talents of the other half of the human race.
February 4, 2010 at 10:28 am
“Genuine change requires that we avail ourselves of the talents of the other half of the human race.”
No. Genuine change requires that we not set quotas, and support politicians for superficial reasons. Barbara Boxer is a terrible senator(and a terrible person). She needs to be sent back to civilian life. The fact that she is a woman has nothing to do with it.
Carly Fiorina seems to be mostly a decent person, and would certainly be an inprovement over Boxer. If she wins the nomination I will wholeheartedly support her. But of the two(and to be honest we’re ignoring the fact that that they are BOTH currently trailing Tom Campbell in the polls, but for the moment the argument is Fiorina vs. Devore) Chuck DeVore is by far the better choice. Again, the fact that Carly isn’t a Carl has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Blindly thinking that having more women(or whatever group you choose to support) in Government will make things better, while paying no attention to the qualifications of those women is part of the PROBLEM, it is certainly NOT the solution.
February 4, 2010 at 10:38 am
Quotas?? You have got to be kidding me. All I have seen for the last several weeks is Hillbuzzers selecting male Candidates. Exclusively. Are you trying to tell me that there are no female candidates what so ever who are qualified or meet our criteria?
February 4, 2010 at 10:40 am
Sorry, as a woman, it always irritates the crap out of me when the issue comes down to gender and not doing what works to get results when a serious crisis is happening.
Worrying about gender is a luxury right now. It entirely misses the point as to what the STATE itself, needs. At this moment, Boxer’s seat is in play for the first time in forever. To not do what it takes to really boot her into orbit misses the point entirely.
Her gender doesn’t make her my sister. Her politics stinks, she’s as dumb as a bag of rocks, she’s done more to harm the state of California than to help. Bonus points because I find her at irritating as athlete’s foot. I don’t care if more men are sent to DC. I care if the right PEOPLE are sent to DC. THAT is what equality is about.
I have a great deal of emotion with this particular race considering the misery of living under this woman’s leadership for decades. She’s a plague and needs to get gone.
The time to worry about details like gender is when the crisis is over.
February 4, 2010 at 10:51 am
You sound like you are in absolute agreement with PumaPac!! They support women first policy second.
You are pushing the exact same logic that they use. The only way to take back our country from the progressives is to vote in conservative America loving Constitution FOLLOWING candidates. Just saying!
February 4, 2010 at 11:25 am
Hillbuzz continues to support Hillary and Sarah. Nobody here has thrown them under the bus. Your Straw Man argument falls flat.
February 4, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Fiorina needs better political credentials. If she was to have a stint in the state congress and then try for the Senate then she would have a better chance of winning.
This time around it sounds like Chuck de Vore is the one who can in fact beat Barbara (call me Senator) Boxer.
With regard to the talents of the candidates it should always be the one with the talent and that should not be based upon gender, colour of skin or even diversity considerations.
Barbara Boxer needs to go. The person to defeat her needs to be the one with the best conservative values. This time around it is not likely to be Carly Fiorina.
If Carly does not win this race then she should look at future options including having a run against the other Californian Senator.
Women have talents but they also have weaknesses, and if you want the best Congress then it should not be about gender. Have a good look at the women in Congress: Mary Landrieu, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, and there are quite a few of them who are just so dumb and vacant that they really do need to be retired.
You need the best person in Congress.
February 4, 2010 at 10:13 am
I also want Barbara Boxer gone, but I believe you should show Carly Fiorina some support by giving her suggestions to help her with her campaign.
After all, this article does say “As for Fiorina, she’s a nice person. We liked her because she was really nice to us in the Democrats for McCain days.”
Doesn’t she deserve some help in return? Tell her what you think works and what you think doesn’t work.
February 4, 2010 at 10:48 am
Yytik,
If I didn’t know you to be a valuable contributor here, I would think you to be placing a seminar call.
“Quotas?? You have got to be kidding me. All I have seen for the last several weeks is Hillbuzzers selecting male Candidates. Exclusively.”
Umm. Sarah Palin. Hillary Clinton. Michele Bachmann. Last I checked, they are not considered men.
Did someone hijack your username?
February 4, 2010 at 10:59 am
Fabulous, as an example of women we now support, we use two women who aren’t even running for office.
February 4, 2010 at 6:32 pm
When I found out Carly Fiorina had only voted 6 times out of the last nineteen elections, that did it for me.
How can a politician ask for voters’ support when he or she hasn’t taken the time to do the same?
February 4, 2010 at 8:23 pm
” … she was really nice to us… .” Of course she was nice, why wouldn’t she be? What would unkind and impolite have gotten her besides bad word of mouth? Every candidate turn ion the charm and use their best manners because they want something – your money and your vote. Is Ms. Fiorina nice? Probably, don’t know the lady. (If her ad campaign is indicative of her common sense, then I’ll pass.) Niceness and the ability to schmooze is hardly a reason to jump on somebody’s bandwagon. Hell, I’m so old and cynical, it’s the “nice” ones I distrust first.”
February 4, 2010 at 12:40 pm
So we should vote for her based on what chromosomes she has?? That’s as stupid as voting for someone based on skin color.
I will vote for her as soon as she shows me that she respects the Constitution and is an actual conservative. So far she’s shown that she is a big fan of race hustler Jesse Jackson as well as being anti 2nd amendment.
How bout we just get the best person for the job instead of worrying if they are male/female, gay/straight, black/white or Democrat/Republican.
This whole “This country is depriving itself of the talents of half the human race” is crap. Prove you can do the job and you’ll get it.
February 4, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Thank you, I agree.
Babs is a perfect example of sending a female to DC who ended up being a useless tool.
February 4, 2010 at 2:50 pm
totally agree,I wouldn’t care how you look or what sex you are as long as you can show me that you will be true to the constitution and will stand up for the financial future of this great country.
February 4, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Absolutely. How many people voted for Obama simply because he is (half) black? And where did that get us? I would love to see more qualified women holding political office, but I don’t want to vote for them if they’re going to end up being tools for someone else’s political agenda and not looking out for their constituents.
February 4, 2010 at 1:32 pm
As a professional woman, I always bristle when someone nominates me for a leadership position because “we need more women to do X.” My response: “Don’t do me any favors.” If I’m going to be promoted, I want it to be because I am the best person for the job. Period. Anything else undermines what would otherwise be an accomplishment as well as any authority or respect that comes with it. I would hope that the person I choose to represent me in government holds himself or herself to the same standard. For that reason, I do not vote for or campaign for candidates based solely on gender and I would not ask anyone else to do so either.
February 4, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Same here. Brilliantly said.
February 4, 2010 at 8:28 pm
The ONLy thing I’ve never minded doing simply because I was female was give birth.
February 4, 2010 at 1:41 pm
As a woman I don’t feel that I am lacking representation because “only” 17% of congress is female. I am far more interested in issues and the ability of the candidate to reflect my views.
I am a conservative and have found that women tend to be more liberal than I could support. Even the “moderate” democratic women tend to vote with their more liberal colleagues far more than standing ont heir own. I offer my senator, Ms. Gillibrand as an example. She was pretty moderate when in the state senate but now walks in lockstep with Chuck Shumer. Maybe the women are less likley to want to rock the boat or be seen as the obstructionists, especially as freshmen.
The MSM will always bash conservative women. To them the only thing worse than a conservative is a conservative female. She is a traitor to the women’s movement in their eyes. In the case of Hillary, she was a media darling as the FLOTUS and when she ran for senate she was treated very well by media. They asked her questions about the Yankees and her new home in the suburbs. However, as soon as Dr U appeared on the orizon it was clear that she had no shot with the MSM. The same people that had hailed the Clintons at “fresh and young” in the early 90′s were suddnly pointing to them as “aged”and “outdated.” Also, as I have often said, race trumps gender as a “protected class.” The international upbringing of Dr U combined with the contrast he represented from Bush and the “American cowboy” image was more than Hillary could ever overcome.
I think that if more women want to get involved in politics, that is great, but I will support the candidate that more reflects my views rather than to vote by gender. To vote for a woman because she is a woman would be on par with blacks voting for Dr U based on race and not philosophy.
February 4, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Nothing gets my hackles up quicker than the term “Sisterhood” and “We need to stick together.”
I’m human first, American second, female— probably about 4th or 5th. IOW, it’s not what I use to measure someone’s value or gauge what makes someone vote worthy.
Life isn’t fair and sometimes, yes, there are far more qualified men than women. Sometimes it’s the other way aroud.
Hell, this site is about Hillary and the #1 Cheerfest of Palin.
February 4, 2010 at 4:09 pm
I have also been deeply dismayed by the gender numbers in Congress. But at this point in history our country and our lives are at stake. Quite literally. For me, this is not the time to care about gender. We need the best person who can win the election. That harsh reality trumps the gender inequality, which is another reality. For another day.
February 4, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Here, here.
February 4, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Talk to the people of Norway (I think that’s the country – the article ran a couple of days ago) – they enacted a law stating that 40% of all boardroom positions had to go to women. Not only are they having trouble FINDING women to fill the positions, they have found that production has gone down, on average, by 20%.
If we truly want EQUAL rights, we have to understand that means equal OPPORTUNITY, not equal results. That’s the problem with racial quotas, as well. We should want to have the best qualified PEOPLE in positions, to heck with everything else.
One of our friends was telling us about a study done a while back that showed that while many times women were QUALIFIED to be in positions of power, most of them weren’t really interested in making all of the sacrifices that were necessary to have those jobs.
They were much more concerned with balancing family time, leisure time, etc. They also found it very isolating to be in charge – most women actually found that they enjoyed the company of other people, working together to find solutions.
The researchers found that to be the case across the board, regardless of race or age. Most companies were desperate to get women into those positions, but they just couldn’t find many takers….
February 4, 2010 at 9:42 am
Devore is way too conservative for a state like CA to elect him. He’s basically running as a strict down the line fire-breather/ DeMint purist, which doesn’t fly in states outside the Bible Belt. Scott Brown won because he was more moderate in tone and social views and fit MA. I don’t think that Devore will do it. It seems to me that it would be more about pure conservative orthodoxy.
February 4, 2010 at 10:04 am
“Devore is way too conservative for a state like CA to elect him.”
Too conservative for the state that elected Ronald Reagan as Governor, I think not. Too conservative for the PERCEPTION of California, but not the reality.
“He’s basically running as a strict down the line fire-breather/ DeMint purist, which doesn’t fly in states outside the Bible Belt.”
Yes it does, and always has. It can “fly” anywhere as long as the candidate is sincere. And besides that, in the current environment a lot more people are looking for EXACTLY that type of person.
“Scott Brown won because he was more moderate in tone and social views and fit MA.”
No. Scott Brown won because people are sick of what they are seeing in D.C., and that sentiment exists across the entire country. You ARE going to see some folks winning elections this year that otherwise would have never stood a chance. Chuck Devore not only CAN win, if he is the candidate he WILL win.
February 4, 2010 at 10:18 am
Personally, I think so many people are disgusted with Obama that just about anyone can win against a Democrat. Coakley would have easily defeated Scott Brown if people were not so ticked off with the Democrats.
February 4, 2010 at 4:35 pm
I do not think that Coakley would have won regardless. There was a strong surge in the last days of that campaign, but Coakley ran a damaging campaign. Plus Coakley had baggage that made her a candidate that was not suitable.
If people were not so ticked off over what the Democrats had done, I think that the win would have been a lot tighter.
From what I observed there are many in MA who voted for Brown for a number of reasons and he is “on parole”. If he puts his constituents first then he will continue to do well in elections. If he fails his constituents then they will vote him out again.
February 4, 2010 at 10:49 am
I would like to address this a bit, as I am a Democrat who has spoken to Chuck a few times.
Chuck is NOT the “GOP” establishment candidate. He gave up his powerful seat as minority whip, because 3 Republicans caved and supported a tax-raising budget and Chuck wanted no part of that action.
He is willing to listen to opposing thought, politely, and respect the disagreement. His focus, when elected, will be on the economy and national security, subjects in which he has a wealth of experience.
I can attest that the state’s GOP leaders are trying to kill his campaign, mainly because they are cheap, unimaginative, lazy and corrupt. Fiorina and Campbell have monies and lackies, so the state-GOP-leaders will hardly need to make an effort.
Chuck has been a mainstay at Tea Party rallies — since the beginning. He would have come to the one we are having Feb. 27th, but he had another rally scheduled — so he is sending his wife.
He has savvy, a great knack for using the modern media and communications networks, and has a ton of charisma.
And, as I said before, the best way to make Babs Boxer mad is to elect an Army Vet to “her seat”.
More details on Chuck and the damaged state GOP are here:
http://templeofmut.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/make-babs-boxer-really-mad-elect-an-army-vet-to-her-seat/
February 4, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Thanks, mutnodjmet13. That was beautifully said.
February 4, 2010 at 11:49 am
“Too conservative for the state that elected Ronald Reagan as Governor, I think not.” You’re obviously not a Californian (or you seem not to be). California has become a whole f’ing lot more liberal than it was in 1968. Moreover, Reagan was always a bit of a libertarian on social issues, particularly gay rights — hard to survive Hollywood as a gay hater — so you really aren’t accurate here. He also signed into law CA’s first pro-abortion statute. CA easily passed medical marijuana and is generally pretty liberal on issues that make Bible-belters froth at the mouth. The economic issues might be there, but run on right-wing religious issues and you get crushed.
February 4, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Agree completely: Reagan was first elected CA Governor in 1967! Things have changed a lot ’round here in the interim.
CA voting is heavily influenced by LA and SF (plus the People’s Republic of Silicon Valley), which means that a GOP candidate has to fiscally conservative and socially moderate to have even a hope of winning.
February 4, 2010 at 2:01 pm
I admit I blindly used the Reagan line as a bit of a metaphor that appears to have fallen flat(no big, I never claimed to be that smart in the first place). The point I was trying to make is that the normal “stereotypes” for want of a better word, don’t apply in the current environment. Under normal circumstances I would not even consider arguing that someone percieved as a “true conservative” would have no chance in California. These aren’t normal circumstances. Under normal circumstances, Scott Brown would NOT have won in Massachussetts, Evan Bayh would NOT be in serious danger, and I would NOT be seriously wishing that Hillary Clinton WAS the President.
Now, I of course realize I could be COMPLETELY proven wrong; but I honestly believe that at this moment in time a Conservative CAN win in California. And that may not be the case again for may elections to come.
Also, completely off-topic, sfgoth, everytime I see your screen name I’m tempted to ask you if you can name all 4 original members of bauhaus.
February 4, 2010 at 2:56 pm
No… It actually doesn’t fly anywhere. Scott Brown might have won ultimately because of fiscal issues, but he first needed to get people to listen to his arguments. The fact that Scott Brown is moderate on social issues and comes off as an articulate moderate, not a Southern Bible thumper interested in enforcing Republican orthodoxy. He was a non-scary Republican who allowed liberal MA suburbanites who voted for Obama to vote in their self-interests.
I’m really not seeing that in Devore. He was endorsed by DeMint, which is a big indication for me of where the guy is, and he seems more interested in enforcing Republican purity than dealing with someone who agrees with them 70% of the time. This happens quite a bit in IL (i.e. Republican primary voters throw a temper tantrum and threaten to hold their breath if someone doesn’t agree with them 100% of the time), and it generally leads to Dems winning large victories.
February 4, 2010 at 10:44 am
Don’t count your chickens in that regard. I too, used to come from that place, but no longer. “He can’t win, he’s too conservative” starts to ring hollow when you are living under what those poor folks in that state have been dealing with forever.
There is a certain level of misery that can transcend normal politics. I think that California is getting there. I don’t know what the tipping point is going to be but it’s going to blow eventually.
The day will come when they’re tired of failure. I don’t know when that will be, but it will come. They cannot succeed in the direction that they’re going in. I suspect that fear will eventually cause the pendulum to swing towards balance…
February 4, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I live in the San Fran area and I hear people all the time slamming Boxer and Pelosi so I think Chuck has a pretty decent chance.
Heck, I’ve even talked to hard core liberals who wore their Obama shirts and screamed at anyone who supported McCain (Well, Palin really) and are now saying “I can’t believe I voted for him.”
The worm is turning.
February 4, 2010 at 2:07 pm
I also live in SF. I hear silence when I speak to people about Obama or I hear..”yes, he has been a disappointment”. I have not come across ANYONE who likes Pelosi.
February 4, 2010 at 3:58 pm
I live, not just in the San Fran area, but smack dab near-damn in the F’ing middle of the City. I hear the same thing. Anyone watch the Simpsons episode where Lisa proves a hamster is smarter than Bart because it will let go when it bites into a tasty treat that has an electrode in it whereas Bart will continue to get zapped b/c he refuses to change his behavior? Welcome to California. The public school system has changed. A Republican will only win if they are pro-choice and think marijuana is groovy. (Ok, it is, but….)
February 4, 2010 at 10:17 am
THANK YOU HILLBUZZ!!!!!!!!
You have just made my entire day! You guys are the best!
I am going to spread the word!
Hugs, from a fan from Southern California!!!!
February 4, 2010 at 11:13 am
[...] first item: HILLBUZZ, A BLOG TEAM OF INDEPENDENT-MINDED DEMOCRATS, ARE SUPPORTING CHUCK DEVORE FOR US SENATE. This puts the lie to the talking points presented by the state GOP Leaders that Devore is [...]
February 4, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I love Chuck Devore’s retort to the Satan Sheep, but I just went to his website to watch him speak, and I couldn’t get through 30 seconds of listening to him without taking a nap.
SNOOOZE alarm, people.
He has the personality of warm milk.
My gut instinct says that this guy doesn’t have a chance in HELL of beating Boxer.
Will people here go watch his videos and tell me that I’m wrong?
February 4, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Hi Tammy’ yeah he is rather boring, but’ I like his policies though,,,and everyone is so feed-up with BOXER,,, I believe that is a big plus to push more vote’s his way…???
Carly is too moderate for me, however’ I could get behind her too, but Devore first…”
February 4, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Well, if you know any body language coaches in California, please send them to Devore’s headquarters!
Hillary obviously had a coach, and it helped her to get rid of her Chicago nasal twang.
I’m serious about this. Devore’s face is so devoid of emotion that it’s almost robotic. Get him some help!
February 4, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Carly Fiorina’s life experience and positions on the issues have never been as appealing to me as Chuck Devore’s. I have only reserved judgment because I want Barbara Boxer OUT OF OFFICE and Carly Fiorina could possibly have been the candidate to do that. She has now shown herself to be a lightweight contender politically as well as philosophically. Chuck Devore is now the strongest candidate AND the best conservative – a win-win! Go Chuck!!
February 4, 2010 at 12:26 pm
DEVORE has my vote and he is exactly the person we need to elect. A strong conservative to stick the screw’s to this “over-runed liberal stranglehold” California has around our neck’s…!
It’s been long in coming– these lib-holes have brought this golden state to our knee’s with too much “special interest’s” and over TAXation of funding.
They have a had a free ride for to long here, and California is waking-up! San Diego and South Riverside county’s are pushing hard against this liberal carnage and are also Hugh supporter’s for Sarah Palin and the “Tea Party movement”
There are alot of Conservatives here, and alot more moderate DEM’s who are fed-up with the status quo,,, I have been to quite a few T-Party rallies and California is ready to clean house”"”!
and you betcha’ HILLBUZZ, with your help– I believe we can do this,,,start that train A-Rollin, DEVORE all the way…”
February 4, 2010 at 12:38 pm
I hope you’re right, but again, Devore has NO personality.
He might stand for the right issues, but if he can’t project himself in a powerful way, I don’t think voters will connect with him. Could somebody in California PLEASE give this guy a little coaching????
I don’t live in California anymore, so I’m not there to see how horrible it’s gotten(other than the stories I get from my friends).
I hope you’re right, Cali-gal.
I hope Devore can pull it off.
I’m just responding to his emotion-less face when he talks, and I am feeling a little cold.
February 4, 2010 at 5:08 pm
With due respect to another woman, I think Obummah got elected on the back of this kind of “reasoning.”
I don’t need a candidate to make me feel “warm and fuzzy” or to make a “thrill go up my leg.” I want ethical, honest, patriotic, competent EMPLOYEES running the country, not charismatic cult-of-personality leaders.
February 4, 2010 at 6:56 pm
I wish he would dress better, but that’s part of his charm.
I was lucky enough to have lunch with him at an event here in West Covina, and found myself mentally dressing him better.
After working in retail/men’s clothing for years, I can’t help it. As an artist, I just can’t help but notice when people don’t wear colors that are more complimentary.
But will this hurt him? Nah. I like what he says and his experience is so darned impressive that I’ve supported him since he first decided to run.
Go Chuck!
February 4, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Isn’t Steve Schmidt working for Carly? If not then who is he working for?
Here’s a not to be forgotten(nor forgiven) article with video of Carly slamming Palin in 2008.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/14/carly-fiorina-goes-on-national-television-and-lies-about-palins-earmarks-bridge-to-nowhere/
February 4, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Seems as if the youtube was scrubbed…hmmmmmm!
February 4, 2010 at 3:46 pm
That could explain why her campaign is sucking so much. Schmidt is awful.
February 4, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Thanks Cherry for the link”
~WOW~ what an eye opener,,, Carly talken crap about Palin, hmmmm”” another fem, shooting her mouth-off, glad I read that..” Yep’ I think I “may retract” my previous post, say-in I could back her”"”"”! and if Schmidt is backing her? A big hell-NO MORE”"!
February 4, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I have mentioned Chuck DeVore in this comment section a couple times before. I am not involved in any way with the campaign other than having once made a donation. Glad to see that you have taken notice. He is the kind of straight-shooting candidate I can support. Just like I support Hillbuzz…may not always understand your positions but I will always defend your individual rights.
PS. Where is PattyMelt?
February 4, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I have to correct my own comment. I tried to think of a position that I don’t understand…couldn’t come up with one. Tried to think of where I disagree…couldn’t.
Am I a reverse Troll?
February 4, 2010 at 12:50 pm
BREAKING: Fiorina campaign responds to demonsheep fiasco: http://bit.ly/9sExQb
I agree where is PattyMelt on DEMONSHEEP???
February 4, 2010 at 5:11 pm
LOL!!! That was awesome…thanks for the laugh. :)
February 4, 2010 at 1:33 pm
On the topic of bad candidates, many must already have seen this, but just to be sure:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/04/dem-candidate-in-il-has-record-of-domestic-violence/
February 4, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Holy God, the guy held a knife to his hooker girlfriend’s neck, and his ex wife had an order for PROTECTION against him, and he’s running for Lieutenant Governor?????
Nice. Wife beater pimp in office.
I suppose the next thing we’ll hear is that he’s running a dog fighting operation and sells crack out of his van.
Are the people of Illinois on acid?
Sheesh!
February 4, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Um add tax evasion to the list…..no big surprise there either.
February 4, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Yep we can sure breed ‘em bad here in Illinois.
Dh said, after hearing this, being corrupt must be a prerequisite for being an Illinois politician. I wholeheartedly agree. At least they voted out Todd (the Toddler) Stroeger so maybe there is hope coming from the electorate. We shall see as Kirk is polling 6 points ahead of the Gangsta.
Of course, Quinn, our esteemed governor has “no Comment”.
February 4, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Scott Brown on Greta tonight.
February 4, 2010 at 3:17 pm
JKR Says:
February 4, 2010 at 10:40 am
Sorry, as a woman, it always irritates the crap out of me when the issue comes down to gender and not doing what works to get results when a serious crisis is happening.
AMEN. Voting for someone based on gender is as stupid as voting based on skin color. I wouldn’t care if they were ALL men as long as they were honest, patriotic ones!
February 4, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Often the best person for the job when a crisis is happening, is a woman.
When I support Carly Fiorina, surely you are not implying that her only qualification is being a woman?
February 4, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Your first statement is not only as sexist as they come, it is simply a statement of your opinion. What do you back it up with?
As for Fiorina, *you* are implying that her only qualification is being a woman. I read all your comments on this thread and you say nothing about her policies, nothing. All of your comments are about her gender.
February 4, 2010 at 3:57 pm
You are the one who implied that there is a crisis, therefore we don’t have the luxury of electing a female candidate. I said “often” women are the best person for the job, you implied that they are not.
Darn right my comments are about gender, I’m addressing a pattern that is emerging here at Hillbuzz, as if nothing has been learned from what was done to Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin.
February 4, 2010 at 4:04 pm
yttik–
If you go back and read more carefully, you’ll see that the crisis part of that post was a QUOTE from JKR. Those were her words.
I didn’t imply anything about women, I said I didn’t CARE about gender, I care about honesty and patriotism.
The pattern here at Hillbuzz is that they are supporting people who they believe to be best qualified to defeat the Leftists who have taken over the Democrat party.
More power to them.
February 4, 2010 at 5:15 pm
We don’t have the luxury of identity politics, is what we are saying. Sexism, like racism, cuts both ways.
And may I say that as the wife of one white male and the mother of another one, I’m absolutely sick of them being marginalized and belittled. What’s the term … oh, yeah: CONTENT OF CHARACTER.
February 4, 2010 at 5:42 pm
“You are the one who implied that there is a crisis, therefore we don’t have the luxury of electing a female candidate.”
Noone has implied any such thing. What we have all said, and what I at least will stand behind no matter what the circumstance is that their will NEVER be a situatation where it’s okay to vote for someone based simply on their gender(or any other non-issue’s issue). If you can make the case that Carly Fiorina would be better for the country than Chuck Devore, then make it, becuase that’s the ONLY thing that matters, and the better person for the job will always be the only thing that matters, gender never does, never has, and never will.
“Often the best person for the job when a crisis is happening, is a woman.”
Guess what, just as often it’s a man.
And when the woman who is the “right person for the job” also happens to apply for the job, then pretty much everyone here will support her to our last breath. But as I am NOT a sexist, I can not support a woman based solely on that fact alone. Affirmative Action in any form is a disaster in and of itself.
February 4, 2010 at 10:53 pm
I’m the one that said that there is a crisis and there is, in both this nation and most especially in California.
I am a woman, and don’t care about gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, creed or whether or not someone dresses funny. I care about their qualifications.
I want the best person for the job, period. The person who has the right agenda and looks like they have the character and the chutzpha to carry it off.
Would it be cool on a superficial level to have a gaggle of women in thse positions? Sure. Does it REALLY matter? NO.
Becuase I’m not going to vote for someone just because I feel like I need to support women. I need to support the agenda.
As to her only qualification being her gender? No one said that anywhere in this thread as far as I saw. I do think that is YOUR agenda, however. I think that is your priority because you keep expressing it. It is not mine. Her gender doesn’t supercede the issues.
You are looking for misogyny on this blog that I don’t think exists.
February 4, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Carly didn’t do such a great job for Hewlett Packard so what makes you think she would do a great job for CA?
http://mediamattersaction.org/factcheck/200908200003
February 4, 2010 at 4:57 pm
One of the first things Carly did when joining HP as CEO was to have a giant portrait of herself placed in the entry foyer of every HP office and plant. HP had a strong and unique corporate culture, but it did not include CEO narcissism. It was downhill from there.
February 4, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Did you work with her there, GitmoTX? Did not other CEO etc have their portraits on walls?
We all have seen photos of the interior of the newly decorated White House, photos of the main cheese(S)everywhere.
Dr Utopia’s ego did not stop him from getting elected, did it?
OH, and to the stock prices, I am happy, but I did not panic when the board of directors of HP decided to reorganize the two companies.
February 4, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I didn’t work at HP, but know many who did.
No other CEOs had portraits in field offices, not even Bill (Hewlett) or Dave (Packard).
The HP culture was about excellence and fun, not ego.
February 4, 2010 at 10:06 pm
I work at a Fortune 500 tech company and if the CEO ever trotted out a self-aggrandizing stunt like that, he’d be laughed out of the building. Giant portraits in the foyers? Gimme a f-in break!
February 4, 2010 at 4:08 pm
I don’t vote on the basis of someone’s plumbing, but rather, on the basis of when the shit’s backed up, they can fix my plumbing. Errr, maybe that can be interpreted a little differently than I intended.
February 5, 2010 at 12:53 am
Eeew, but point taken.
February 4, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Unseating the Ma’am will be touch in CA. The GOP needs to have a candidate with the best shot at beating her. Like it or not, part of that will come down to money. Boxer has a huge war chest. Whoever the GOP candidate is will need megabucks to have a shot. I think DeVore has a better chance than Fiorina, though I think his statement of Defense/National Security is incredibly weak, like so many in the GOP at this time. That is one issue that concerns me about him. But, that said, I think he will be a stronger candidate against Boxer than Fiorina. I think Fiorina has too much baggage that may bring her down, which is a shame.
February 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm
O/T: Has Brown been sworn in today?
“Brown taking over the late Sen. Kennedy’s seat”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100204/ap_on_bi_ge/us_brown_senate
WASHINGTON – Republican Scott Brown said fixing the nation’s ailing economy would be his top priority as he prepared Thursday to take his Senate seat a week earlier than he had planned.
February 4, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Barbara Boxer is living (?) proof of what affirmative action can do to the political process. Whoever is best situated to render Boxer unemployed will have my support. I lived (if you can call it that) in California for 20 years and hated that this simpering, shrill crone was my Senator despite my efforts to support anyone running against her! She’s also a moron. And that whiney voice. Sheesh!
February 4, 2010 at 5:41 pm
A simpering, shrill, whining, crone, moron?
Yeah, there’s no misogyny here! What you seem to fail to understand is that when you refer to women like that, you’re referring to all women like that.
February 4, 2010 at 5:48 pm
“What you seem to fail to understand is that when you refer to women like that, you’re referring to all women like that.”
And after that statement I just lost all desire to bother to attempt to have an intelligent argument with you on this issue; becuase that’s the stupidest thing you could possibly have said(and no I did NOT just call you stupid, I said the STATEMENT was stupid, and it is). When
Gayle Miller(who I assume to be a woman and I seriously doubt a misogynistic one) refers to Babs Boxer in that manner then you refers to exactly ONE woman. No others. Not you, not Gayle herself, and not even any other woman who may actually also fit the description. When I call Barack Obama a moron, I am not calling all black people a moron, I am not calling all black men morons, I am not even calling all black men named Barack Obama(assuming that there may be another one out there somewhere) morons, just the one.
February 4, 2010 at 6:37 pm
That’s the “One”. Genuflect when you write that, bub.
February 4, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Stop projecting and taking things personally.
If you can’t criticize someone that shares your gender, you have some work to do.
February 4, 2010 at 6:35 pm
“Also, completely off-topic, sfgoth, everytime I see your screen name I’m tempted to ask you if you can name all 4 original members of bauhaus.” I must admit, that at 12:30 a.m. in Vienna, while attending 19th c. ballroom dance course, I can only name David J., Peter Murphy, and Daniel Ash.
February 4, 2010 at 6:56 pm
O/T – Brown is sworn in!!!!!!!!
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/brown-is-sworn-in-as-the-41st-republican/?partner=rss&emc=rss
February 4, 2010 at 9:18 pm
THANK GOD …
Next Q: will all of not-a-senator-any-more Kirk’s votes after Jan 19th be repealed?!
February 4, 2010 at 7:24 pm
O/T: Here’s an interesting blog post on why there is no “bipartianship.”
http://valley-of-the-shadow.blogspot.com/2010/02/bipartisanship-and-budget-fy2011.html
February 4, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I have found this discussion interesting, educational, amusing and it has given me cause for some introspection.
I always think of the bums to be removed from Congress as white-haired old men. However, there are also just as many women in Congress that are destructive to this country, real poison,— Barbara Boxer being one, Patty Murray from my state another one, to mention two.
I have been a business woman all my adult life and abhor doing business with someone based on quota of one sort or the other, –may the best person win!
Also, I love hillbuzz and the boyz just because I feel their commitment to those same values. I also feel their love for our country, –nearly as strong as mine:)
February 4, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Couldn’t agree more. Dittos.
February 4, 2010 at 8:44 pm
It’s great to see people are starting to notice that Chuck is the candidate that is not afraid to break with political correctness and to call his opponents out on ridiculousness.
Let’s give him our votes and support!
https://chuckdevore.com/donate/?ref=4
February 4, 2010 at 9:10 pm
hey hillbuzz…
you guys have to watch this video… tea party patriots going after the republican party as well
February 5, 2010 at 2:08 am
Brilliant!
February 4, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I can’t believe the Hillboyz haven’t posted this yet: Hitler Is Informed About the Demonsheep Campaign Ad
February 4, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Wow. That’s not been seen before.
You must get paid the big bucks for your NON story links.
Please give me links to your bosses because they need to know that you are so behind the bus that it already ran over you.
Repetition works in media.
You got that one down.
What’s next, oh brilliant non-media darling?
February 4, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Geez…she is just sharing a link. Lighten up.
February 4, 2010 at 10:11 pm
I agree, I enjoyed seeing that link, pretty funny
not sure what the issue is?
February 4, 2010 at 10:07 pm
I dont get this whole demon sheep ad thing, I like carly fiorina, but I do not understand this ad at all… I know what it is attempting, but it didnt do its job.
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