Though it pains us to call him one, after what he did Christmas week in voting for the Healthcare Rationing bill, Evan Bayh very much is a Joker
More on this later when we have time to tell you the whole story, but here in Chicago there’s a push going out from big donors we know from Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Evan Bayh seems to be in a lot of trouble in Indiana.
This is a very tough predicament for us to be in, because we got to spend a decent amount of time with Bayh at several campaign stops for Clinton in 2008. We like the man. He, or Ted Strickland, would be Vice President right now in an alternate reality where we didn’t fail to win the nomination for Hillary Clinton.
But, we are so disgusted by all 60 Democrats in the Senate right now for not stopping the unconstitutional monstrosity that is the Healthcare Rationing Bill that, despite our past positive feelings for him, we think Evan Bayh should be booted from the Senate.
All it took was one Democrat — JUST ONE — to tell Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and the White House that more time was needed for the public, let alone the Senators voting, to understand what was really in the Healthcare Rationing Bill before voting on it.
Evan Bayh had the chance to stand up, courageously, and tell Democrats they were operating in the dead of night, in secret, contrary to all their promises they would handle healthcare in the open following the wishes of the people.
Bayh could have ground everything to a halt and FORCED Democrats to behave responsibly, sensibly, and in the manner they promised in 2008.
He didn’t.
That was his choice.
We just can’t support him anymore after that.
And the same holds true for all Democrats in the Senate.
These people can’t be trusted, and should not be in office.
So, we’re saying no to the requests to help fundraise and campaign for Bayh in Indiana. It’s more bridges we’re burning with people who keep score here in Chicago, but we just can’t help anyone who votes for this monstrosity. The manner in which this bill was rammed through at Christmas in the dead of night so appalls us, we want every last one of these Jokers ejected from office at the first available opportunity.
Though it pains us to side against Evan Bayh, we feel Evan Bayh sided against us in the Nightmare Before Christmas.
How much trouble do you think he’s really in in Indiana? The talk we hear is that, as of the latest internal polls this week, he’s going to lose his seat.
January 8, 2010 at 4:14 pm
He must have let the war at home take precedence. His wife makes lots of money off Wellpoint, and so they both stood to gain financially.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/22/evan-bayhs-wife-reaping-t_n_400827.html
January 8, 2010 at 4:18 pm
So sad, hillbuzz…
He was one of the last of the good democrat [small d] senators from fly-over country that took his job seriously and treated his constituents with care and dignity. I know how you feel and I believe you are doing the right thing. I find it so hard to believe that he and some others would be willing to give up his career and dreams for the likes of The Supreme Ego Change-ling. Doesn’t it seem sometimes that BHO has them all hope-mo-tized? Bayh is just too smart not to know how this will destroy the best health care on the planet while bankrupting the country. I can’t wait until someone breaks away and writes THE BOOK and we’ll all find out why they are jumping off the cliff for him.
January 8, 2010 at 4:19 pm
The Indy Star said not only did he vote yes with the rest, he was a major arm twister to get others to vote yes as a block. This after he had a one on one meeting with the pres.
January 8, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Yet another piece of purely anecdotal evidence that the Dems have dug themselves a huge hole.
The other day I answered a Facebook poll on whether or not you would vote to re-elect Obama. Prior to the election, I saw a poll like this with Obama earning around 60%. I also saw a poll on who was the worst President in history, and Bush was soundly beating Carter.
But the other day, on the re-election poll, with somewhere around 400,000 votes, Obama was losing BADLY, by around 65% to 30%.
Considering Facebook trends into the demographics that heavily favored Obama, I think this is pretty stark. Purely anecdotal, in no way scientific, and yet majorly worrisome for his staff, I would say.
January 8, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Democrat or Republican, they all need to find a new line of work. Glad to see you back, I’ve grown to love the opinions of the day served up with a side saucer of cream.
January 8, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Great job on standing on your principles.
January 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Ditto. And, FYI,Democrats are not the only ones burning bridges – a lot of conservatives are doing it ,too!
January 8, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Don’t forget, it’s not 60 Dems, I believe it’s 58 and 2 independents. I’m still very disappointed in Lieberman.
I heard someone on the radio on WLS speak about Bayh yesterday. They said that Indiana may be a Democrat state but they are moderate Dems, many of whom are very upset with Dr. Utopia. They commented that Bayh could have done a lot to further president dreams if he stood up to Utopia and stopped this health crime bill. I was a conservative who found a lot I liked in Bayh, but this last year has made me feel differently. He is showing himself to be nothing but a far left liberal foot stool.
January 8, 2010 at 4:55 pm
It really is inexplicable. Unless, of course, Rahm has something on him, which of course is the entire basis of the Chicago way. Pure speculation on my part….but it would seem that he would be a Dem frontrunner and it is puzzling that he would compromise his own future, given the trajectory of the Dr. Utopia’s public approval. That is, of course, unless he miscalculated and failed to read the shifting winds of public opinion, which is entirely possible as these “public servants” tend to live in a bubble.
I once so admired him.
January 8, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Am I the only one to think that Rahm has something on ALL of these Dems?
I mean, COME ON! These Dems know they will not be re-elected, and they still vote for this bill from Hell.
Rahm must have juicy stuff on every single one of them.
January 8, 2010 at 8:02 pm
I’m with you, Tamara. That is honestly the only thing that makes sense out of all this.
January 8, 2010 at 8:51 pm
I agree. One meeting with O and suddenly center/left dems are diving into the far leftist pit. I’d guess they have files on all of them. Or their family members.
No heros in the group it seems. If they want to go down in history as nothing more than soot marks in this period, somebody needs to step up.
January 8, 2010 at 9:01 pm
In which case they should ALL be working to take him down. Otherwise, how dumb are they to sit still for that?
January 8, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Indiana is a solid conservative state.
Obama won the state.. barely.
I am sure Acorn played a huge part in that.
Bayh wins because of his name.
Anyway… In our paper people have been writing in and its not very flattering for Bayh. Local radio is hammering Bayh for his vote as well.
Sadly, his opponet has hardly any money.
I have written as well to him.. no answer at all.
Arrogant smug creep.
January 8, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Kristi, can you tell us the name of Bayh’s opponent, please?
Social media is a good fund-raising, profile-raising tool for these folks. We’ve been doing a lot on behalf of Scott Brown in MA who faces similar challenges.
Maybe we can help in IN, too.
Thanks!
January 8, 2010 at 8:52 pm
John Hostteler.
http://johnhostettler.com/blog/
He has a blog where he was telling Indiana that Bayh will not vote for the healthcare bill… but of course he did.
January 9, 2010 at 9:12 pm
I would suggest Marlin Stutzman as a more viable candidate against Evan Bayh. http://www.gomarlin.com
January 8, 2010 at 4:38 pm
“They” havent taken us seriously, yet!
Just wait!
January 8, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Well said! bath votes for every big spending deal there is, just like Webb in Virginia. They lie to their states and say they will be responsible with money, and then they vote for PORK and trillions of new spending putting us into more debt.
January 8, 2010 at 4:44 pm
:(. I love evan byah. He was one of the few to slow the ohole down from passing the pblic option. It will be a heartbreak if he goes. It’s the libs and obama supporters that need to go. Not the hillary backers and conservative dems. This is awful. :(
January 9, 2010 at 11:00 am
This is strictly my opinion…EVERYONE who voted for the Healthcare bill MUST go, no ifs ands or buts about it. They chose to ignore the will of THE PEOPLE who put them in office, and as such, no one who voted for this bill should be allowed the PRIVILEGE of serving in the US Congress. We the people must choose to send someone else to represent us who will do the will of the people. The People are now awake, and are ready to take back control of our country. It is, in my opinion, time for a law to require each legislator to state where in the Constitution they derive the authority to pass any law that they vote on. They should also be required to submit an essay to the American People explaining exactly how the Constitution applies to said proposed legislation . If they cannot state which part of the Constitution allows for any given law, then the law cannot be voted on. Our Founding Fathers knew what they were doing when they wrote the Constitution.
January 8, 2010 at 4:46 pm
I live in Indiana and am not a fan – my last 3 letters to Senator Bayh regarding the Health Care vote went unanswered even tho I checked the box asking for a response. The responses I’d gotten to prior letters were very much “form letters” His yes vote was no surprise, and although I hadn’t heard about his arm twisting of others, it’s not a surprise either, I’m sad to say.
February 15, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I live in Indiana also and I don’t think anyone could know what really goes on in politics unless you’ve been there. I believe that Mr. Bayh has the ethics of a true leader. But congress has gotten out of control and the greed and power have gotten out of control. I believe Mr. Bayh is making the biggest statement he could of the liars and cheats in our government. It’s got to stop and he doesn’t want to be part of it anymore. I have written to Mr.Bayh a few years back and I got a speedy response from him.
January 8, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Yes he is in trouble. He has sorely disappointed many Hoosiers. I’ve protested outside his office several times last year. Our chant was “Bye Bye Bayh”! Thank you for standing on your principles Hillbuzz.
February 15, 2010 at 3:54 pm
You don’t know what goes on or you wouldn’t make this comment. He has done what he believes would be the best for the people of Indiana. I have been exposed to unions, alot of CEO’s of very large companies and what rules in this world of ours is MONEY and GREED and POWER. Were are pawns and there is nothing, nothing we can do about it.
January 8, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I had also had hopes that James Webb of Virginia could have been that one Democrat who would have the integrity to stop what was going on. Sadly, he did not do so.
I sent him this letter:
Dear Senator Webb,
Recently you reminded President Obama that treaties require ratification by the Senate. I do not believe that the Administration cares about that. The recent announcement from the EPA makes that clear.
We are witnessing the destruction of our democracy. Just as the Administration is willing to disregard the Senate, Senators across the country are openly defying their constituents. These are gross abuses of power. Where is our representative democracy? How can men of integrity endorse through their silence the defaming of millions of Americans as racists just because they oppose these abuses of power?
What kind of society do we wish to have? One with Freedom, or one with increasing Government control? Those who wish for more power and control bombard us with messages of Fear – for our health, our finances, our environment and our very future. Through Fear, they wish for us to yearn for their control. I do not wish to be like an animal in the zoo, with the Government as my keeper. No risk equals no Freedom. Safety equals stagnation. Instead, we can meet challenges without being driven by Fear. We each have the choice: Fear…or the joy, and responsibility, of Freedom.
You have stood up for Freedom in the past. It seems unfair to ask more, but it is necessary. Will you choose, once again, to stand up for Freedom?
Sincerely,
January 8, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Great letter, Lynn!
January 8, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Yes, a wonderful letter!
January 8, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Great letter Lynn. I can’t tell you how disappointed in Webb I am.
January 9, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Lynn, I also live in Virginia and have written letters and made calls to BOTH of our Senators. I usually get a response (form letter), but this time nothing.
To me, this is a stupid thing to do, to ignore unhappy constituents. I could not even leave a message over the healthcare vote as the mailbox was full.
January 8, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Everyone of them is being bribed and they are accepting the bribe, which is by law a crime in itself.
You know that stimulus money that “supposedly” hasn’t been spent yet? It’s definitely being spent on all these bribes. ALL THE SENATORS ARE GETTING CASH FOR THEMSELVES!!!
January 8, 2010 at 5:24 pm
This all reminds me of a profound J.C. Watts quote:
“Character is doing the right thing when nobody’s looking.”
January 8, 2010 at 6:13 pm
And in this case they are actually doing the wrong thing while everybody is looking.
January 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Cali Gran, I’m sure Governor Arnold would agree with that J.C.Watts quote.
The Foundry
“Schwarzenegger on Obamacare: ‘They Got the Corn, We Got the Husk’,” includes a transcript, but here are Carroll’s key points:
One of Obamacare’s biggest dirty little secrets is that in both the House and Senate versions of the bill, over half of those who gain health insurance do so through Medicaid. Both bills force more people who are currently eligible for Medicaid to enroll–and the states would be left to pick up the tab without any additional federal funding. For states already on the brink of insolvency, Obamacare will be a financial disaster unless they can all secure deals like the one Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) secured for Nebraska. [...]
Schwarzenegger: “This is health care to nowhere.”
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/schwarzenegger-this-is-health-care-to-nowhere/
January 8, 2010 at 11:28 pm
California–you remembered a quote from an “Okie”!! Good for you!
January 8, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I think it is about time for all the people stand up and get to the polls and get rid of them all
January 8, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Here’s a bit of funny, hope it hasn’t been posted already:
http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/video/barack-obama-is-the-godfather/
January 8, 2010 at 7:18 pm
That was rich!!!!! Thanks!
January 8, 2010 at 5:46 pm
This Health care fiasco reminds me of the strong-arm, threatening behind closed doors tactics the DNC used to force Super-delegates to turn-coat on Hillary and give “the Chosen One” their delegates in Denver. I don’t think many of us here will ever forget that nightmare of events. This health care fiasco is very similar, except this time around “good people” will definitely lose their seats, which obviously Obama, Pelosi and others do not care. I am very disappointed in Evan Bayh and also Mark Warner, Virginia, who I thought were two of the last “good guys” left in the Senate. Mr. Transparency, Mr. Different Kind of Politician, Mr. Hope and Change, Mr. Change you can Believe In, Mr. Innocent (aka Obama) used Chicago style thug politics to get this rammed down everyone’s throats. He is a master at that while playing the innocent to the hilt. Indiana is still a very republican/conservative state and this health care plan where people’s rates go up is not going to sit well in Hoosier-ville.
January 8, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Look.
You can always back him later if he repents, recants, and changes his ways.
But as for now, the “children” have to be disciplined! (and I’m not talking B&D here!)
January 8, 2010 at 5:58 pm
and speaking of the Health-Killing Bill..
FYI
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
Friday, January 8, 2010
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals the media.
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals in the media.
from Women State blog.
January 8, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Hillbuzz guys:
I agree with you on the healthcare bill, etc. I admire your political courage, but I have to ask, since Hillary was also a proponent of a socialized medicine plan, which probably would not have come out too differently than the House and Senate ideas have come out. If Hillary were president and socialized medicine was passing in the Congress, would you remain angry with the 60 Senate Dems and the Dem House members? Would you be supporting this type of legislation, then? Cheers.
January 8, 2010 at 6:08 pm
If Hillary were doing what the corrupt Congress/WH/insurance cabal is doing now, I would vote against her and them. I voted for Hillary and then Sarah in 2008. I am an HRC supporter who does NOT support any new government legislated, controlled or owned healthcare. Cleaning up the Medicare fraud would save billions of dollars. The stimulus bill is just a pay to play scam for DIM elections and the health scam is bho the fraud paying back campaign donors. I do not trust this DIM led Congress with our health, our national security and our money. Healthcare is an individual responsiblity, NOT a constitutional right.
January 8, 2010 at 6:15 pm
you said it all!
January 8, 2010 at 9:22 pm
You spoke my mind
January 8, 2010 at 6:42 pm
HRC’s plan was developed in a different economic climate (not that socialized medicine is a good idea in any climate). It’s hard to say whether she’d go that direction now, rather than focus on jobs.
That said, as a Hillary then McCain voter, as long as we had a Democratic Congress, I wouldn’t vote for HRC for president over any Republican, and I wouldn’t vote for her in the Senate if she was a Yes vote for healthcare crime bill.
January 8, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Exactly! One-party government is pretty much always a disaster. Even Reagan was a better executive after the Rs lost control of the house. I can’t think of a single time when one-party rule worked that well, on either the right or the left.
January 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm
well I liked him, but now he has to go. I think the only way for Hillary Clinton to ever be President is that the Democrats do very badly in the House and Senate this year.
Obama will not run in 2012 if he knows he will lose, when he bails out Hillary will run for the Democratic nomination. but if Hillary has any hope in being President she has to attack Obama, Pelosi and Reid soon.
The GOP are in a mess right now, they need a new contract with America that has good values and is not social Conservative, that will put off many voters. also the GOP have to attack the Democrats saying they were all left wing. also the GOP need Rubio, Rubio in Florida will be a great leader in the Senate and a great VP or Presidental candidate in the future.
January 8, 2010 at 9:11 pm
We need to pull back on social issues and focus on pure constitutional basics like the economy, security, and smaller government or we won’t survive long enough to argue social issues later.
This WH admin has been a divide and conquer one. As a country, we can only survive as the USA if we are united around a few country-defining principles.
January 8, 2010 at 5:56 pm
and speaking of the Health-Killing Bill…
FYI
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
Friday, January 8, 2010
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals the media.
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals in the media.
from Women State blog.
Also….
2010 Census Hiring Employment Scam
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/01/2010-census-hiring-employment-scam.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnalysis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29
Pray tell why does it take 1.4 million Americans to conduct a census, 3 times as many as in 2000?
January 8, 2010 at 5:57 pm
and speaking of the Health-Killing Bill…
FYI
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
Friday, January 8, 2010
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals the media.
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals in the media.
from Women State blog.
January 8, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Also….
2010 Census Hiring Employment Scam
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/01/2010-census-hiring-employment-scam.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnalysis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29
Pray tell why does it take 1.4 million Americans to conduct a census, 3 times as many as in 2000?
January 8, 2010 at 5:58 pm
and speaking of the Health-Killing Bill……
FYI
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
Friday, January 8, 2010
Economist Was Under Contract With Health & Human Services while pushing for Health Reform Bill
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals the media.
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the leading academic defenders of health care reform, is taking heat for failing to disclose consistently that he was under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services while he was touting the Democrats’ health proposals in the media.
from Women State blog.
January 8, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Another Hoosier here…
While I may not have had the close connection with Bayh, you guys have culminated, I did vote for him both times when he ran for governor and again when ran for the Senate. I saw him stump for Hillary in Valpo and joined in the chat for him to be selected as the V.P. that roared through the gym.
My opinion of him as a statesman has swung 180 degrees. The emails I have sent him have went unanswered, as has the snail mail I sent his Hammond office and I have yet to be able to get a live person on the phone when I have called his office, both here and in Washington. He is NOT the statesman I thought him to be, he is the quintessential politician.
I am currently looking forward to voting against him and don’t care if the Republicans run Bozo on the ticket, I’ll vote for the guy with the red hair.
After the Senate vote, I happened across this statement in the NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/20/health/policy/20health.html?_r=1
“Mr. Bayh said that the health care measure was the kind of public policy he had come to Washington to work on, according to officials who attended the session, and that he did not want to see the satisfied looks on the faces of Republican leaders if they succeeded in blocking the measure.”
This is not a comment from a statesman.. it is an egocentric reply of someone unconcerned about the country, just concerned about scoring points.
Good-bye Evan..
January 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm
HillBuzz, I like you was a huge fan of Evan Byah b/c he so staunchly stood by Hillary, remember the video where they both went to a local ice cream shop, both got ice cream.
Now? there are no JFK pro-America democrats, they are ALL socialists/marxists now. I don’t know if Byah is running in 2010, but if he is I will be donating to his opponent, who better be against this DeathCare bill!
Evah Byah was one I really thought was a moderate, there are NO moderates, he going on Neil Cavuto’s show and says “we need to reign in the deficit”…YET votes for chit that will increase the deficit, and ration care for us Americans.
He says he is against cap-n-tax, why the hell should I believe a word comes out of his mouth???
any conservative running agn this man gets my campaign money and effort to defeat Evah Byah!
I am now embarassed to call myself even an EX-democrat at this point!
These people have NO clue how much they are loathed and how much people, including lifelong dems like me are disgusted with them!
January 8, 2010 at 9:08 pm
ssmith I swear you always take the words right out of my mouth.
January 8, 2010 at 6:29 pm
All moderate dems are in trouble. The far left dems are fine as they come from places that agree with that thinking.
I am a conservative, and I have things that I like about Bayh. He always seems like a principled man to me. I respect that, even if I don’t agree. Obviously I was wrong, because they are things in this bill that he publically said are bad for the country.
January 8, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Evan Bayh could have seized the opportunity and had a historic “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.” He could have shown that he was a man of complete integrity and honor, concerned with what was best forthe people of the U.S., rather than the Democrat party.
He could have had a shining moment, when he came forward, and called upon Congress to slow down, and stop ramming through legislation which no one has read. He could have stood on principle, and argued that there was no reason to be in such a rush to forever change the entire U.S. health care system.
He could have shamed others into realizing that they were literally cramming this unwanted legislation down the peoples throats.
Evan Bayh could have had his once-in-a-life time shining moment. He could have been a hero–a man would forever be known as the Senator who was too honorable to be bribed or threatened.
Evan Bayh, “he could have been a contender.”
What a wasted opportunity.
January 8, 2010 at 6:49 pm
You all are showing the courage to be honest and the great strength to be true to yourselves. We need more people like you all.
January 8, 2010 at 6:57 pm
This is my first time posting here, and I have read the blog with great hope. People are finally, finally coming to their senses about how the Democratic party has bankrupted this nation. Not only with TARP, the OMNIBUS Bill, takin over the car companies, healthcare and the list goes on and on. Evan Bayh is just one of 60 that need to go, but make no mistake, I also think the 40 Republicans need to go as well as everyone in the House. They are NOT there for us, the taxpayers. They are there for themselves, they have the power and it has gone to their heads. They don’t care about any of us. Everything in this healthcare bill is bad. Why does this bill have to be pushed through without anyone reading it? Or even letting the other party into discussions about the bill. The Democrats have changed and locked doors to keep the other party out, and from any of us knowing what is going on.
So, how is all that hopey, dopey, change working for ya? I think we learned a valuable lesson here. The people that voted for this President and the people that voted in 2006 to take the Democratic control in Congress have failed us all, even the ones that voted for hope and change.
January 8, 2010 at 7:04 pm
I used to really respect Evan Byah, especially as he supported and stood by Hillary through it all.
NOW? I will donate to anyone who is conservative who will oppose this man!
There are NO moderate dems anymore, there are all socialists and marxists. I am disgusted to ever have called myself a democrat, as I was a democrat since I registered to vote.
And this fool goes on Neil Cavuto’s show saying, “we need to control spending and lower deficits”
WHAT A FREAKING HYPOCRITE!!!
and yet votes for a POS bill that will ration care, lower quality of care, raise taxes, costing even MORE jobs, and RAISE the definite and destroy our currency to a point of NO return.
I will never ever vote for another democrat aka socialist/marxist EVER!
these fools think of themselves as democrats first, WE do not! I am an American FIRST!
FU Evan Byah! I respected you so much last year, now you disgust me beyond words!
January 8, 2010 at 7:10 pm
I appreciate your sincerity in showing us your convictions. Those convictions are obviously not easy, and it seems like you guys are really getting it thrown at you.
But you’ve drawn your line in the sand, you’ve made it clear what you’re standing for. America did that for most of August and no one listened to us. These people have to face the consequences of their selfish voting behavior. And being a good guy no longer counts for anything.
Hang in there!
January 8, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Being a conservative libertarian, I always respected Evan Bayh. I thought he’d be the one Democrat who’d stand against this unconstitutional attempt by the left-wing progressives to take over 1/6th of our economy. Perhaps he can and will redeem himself. One can only hope so.
January 8, 2010 at 7:32 pm
This ain’t over yet, people!!! They still have to get the final votes…and if we keep the pressure on it’s possible to stop this bill. As fast as the Democrats are falling right now it’s not impossible. They are realizing quickly the consequence of this bill. They are seeing Obama do a free-fall and if they had any common sense they’d realize if they go along with this ring of thugs in the White House they will all go down with the ship.
And look at Scott Brown! If he manages to land that senate seat of Ted Kennedy’s…it’s over.
We cannot admit defeat. We must continue to pressure these moderate Democrats and let them know that a vote for this healthcare bill is a vote against them.
January 8, 2010 at 7:50 pm
This is why I like visiting this site. Most of you are Dems and there is an honesty here that is missing amongst the Dem politicians. At least you have your eyes open, not like some of the more starry-eyed folk that cannot see the truth and failed to see the truth about the Obot (who has shifty eyes)
January 8, 2010 at 7:54 pm
“How much trouble do you think he’s really in in Indiana? The talk we hear is that, as of the latest internal polls this week, he’s going to lose his seat.”
I hope so.
And I hope all the rest of the incumbents lose their seats as well.
January 8, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Thanks for sticking to your principles.
Country over Party!
January 8, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Love it. “Country over party” is the only way we can save ourselves as the USA.
January 8, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Boys, I understand where you’re coming from. It pains me to see it, but he did the Unthinkable. I’d have considered voting for him for President had he chosen to run.
I was shocked and disappointed when he voted the way he did. Him and Blanche really shocked me, voting on it as it was.
January 8, 2010 at 9:43 pm
He has lost all chance to say he is moderate. He voted for this health care and for porkculus. He should be finished.
January 8, 2010 at 10:35 pm
The Democrat Party has been infiltrated by European Socialists, with a Fascist twist (I mean Fascist in the literal sense – government control, private ownership – not the knee-jerk “ZOMG Fascists” response ingrained into the left over every move the Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfelds made).
George Soros and the Secretary of State project, Code Pink, Media Matters, MoveOn, ACORN, SEIU, CAIR, and the list goes on. Gore, Kerry, Dodd, Frank, Sanders, Boxer, Pelosi, Obama, Jones, Emmanuel, and a whole lot of names you and I will never know.
This movement has co-opted moderate Democrats, making them fat and happy with pork.
The movement has taken advantage of the demographic opportunity the Democrats have enjoyed for years with four specific groups:
1) working-class whites, union or otherwise, who vote Dem because their Daddy did and their Granddaddy did before that. They are Democrats to the core, and blindly avoid realization about what has happened to their party.
2) Blacks and college-age whites. Always a reliable Dem source of votes when they voted, blacks and college-age whites were needed in large numbers to commit the caucus fraud (to supplement the superdelegate and MI/FL primary fraud) that enabled Hillary Clinton’s primary defeat. The problem was that these demographics don’t often vote in large numbers. To do this, they needed a candidate that would excite both groups. Fortunately for them, they had one tailor-made – one that had been groomed since before the 2004 DNC speech. One whose politics were perfect, born in the halls of academia, the precincts in Chicago, and William Ayers’ living room.
3) White liberals. Usually middle-class or better, people that have financial incentive to be more conservative, but choose a liberal course for social agenda or “feel good” reasons, or may be turned off by the popular media perception of conservatives. This group is as important for their contributions as for their votes.
4) The elderly dependent on entitlement programs for their livelihood.
This movement definitely engineered the housing bubble, which can be traced back to the Carter administration. It is fortuitous for them that the crash came when it did (or maybe – it was planned). This group may or may not have engineered the oil price spike of 2008 (remember McCain’s references to “speculators”).
The media pushed to completely eviscerate the Bush administration leading up to the 2006 election, setting the stage for 2008. The media had been pushing for McCain to win the Republican nomination for years – the one candidate they thought would supress the conservative vote enough to overcome what they knew would be a difficult general election. Even with all the advantages the Democrats had in 2008 – a rough economy, an unpopular war, a quiet front in the War on Terror, general malaise with the Republican brand – Obama still had enough problems to only win by 5 points in a year that should have been a landslide for the donkeys.
These people fought hard for the White House, the House, and supermajority control of the Senate simultaneously. They cheated to get the White House. They poured money into races to install Pelosi as speaker. They committed massive vote fraud in Minnesota to put Franken over the top as the 60th Senator.
The strategies were simple: Health Care, Amnesty, Universal Registration. Buy the votes, then get out the votes with SEIU and ACORN. Fund it all with the Stimulus bill. Eventually, they’d have so many people sucking at the government teat that they’d never lose. They’d force the Republican party so far to the left that it wouldn’t matter which party won elections.
Evan Bayh had an opportunity (and may still have). Someone needs to step up and challenge the party machine. There are millions of Democrat voters in this country who have no idea what the leadership of their party is doing to them. A compliant mainstream media means they’ll be unlikely to hear this message from a conservative source, but a grassroots Democrat movement, using the bully pulpit of presidential primary campaigning, could have gotten the message out.
Evan Bayh could have been the person to make that happen. The Democrat party needs to be changed from within, and the activists are on the side that’s in control. The more conservative members, the real, every day Americans in the party, are also the most complaisant and would never enacted the structural changes needed on their own, without leadership.
There would have been hurdles, for certain. The superdelegate system, the caucus registration system, and the proportional distribution of delegates from primaries would all have been hurdles in the way of a traditional uprising within the Democrat party. It would have taken an unusual set of circumstances – a candidate on the left side of the party that had alienated millions of traditional voters, and a wildly popular candidate – a statesman, a speaker, a leader – in the middle that could overcome those hurdles.
Evan Bayh was wildly popular in Indiana among Democrats, Republicans, and everyone else. He could have been that for the rest of the country as they got to know him, especially if he had been able to embrace the Tea Party movement and they him. Contrary to the media mantra about the Tea Parties, they’re not far right in nature, but are more about big government, the Constitution, and corruption. A Democrat willing to go against the grain of the Democrat party could have been Bayh’s ticket to the White House.
January 8, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I’m starting to develop a theory, which is that every generation has to re-learn the danger of voting for unknown, inexperienced, progressive idealists.
I was in high school when Carter was elected to erase the taint of the Nixon years, in much the same way that Obama was elected to be the anti-Bush. Carter was also Mr. Hope and Change in his day. I remember the gas lines, thermostat rules, “stagflation” and the Iran hostage crisis. I also remember watching my roommate from California weep for joy as the 1980 election returns came in. Whatever anyone says now, we all knew that the reason the hostages were released within minutes of the Reagan inauguration was that the mullahs didn’t want to deal with “the Gipper.”
I hope things don’t get that bad again – bad as things are now, I remember those days as being worse – but if the country returns to constitutional values again as a result, even that would be worth it.
January 8, 2010 at 11:12 pm
I agree with all you said. What’s worse now is that education has taken a terrible hit over the last forty years. Children are not taught about the founders of the Republic at an early age through high school. PC academics have usurped education to the point that we have the youngest singing inappropriate administration power songs. Talk about brainwashing. If we manage to save the country as a Constitutional Republic, we better get back to the basics in schools soon after because in no time at all the babies of today will be voting tomorrow.
January 9, 2010 at 1:33 am
I’m an anti-Democrat Democrat, and this all happened within the past two years. I guess that I’m now a Dino. For now, I’ll wear that label with pride as I help destroy them.
January 9, 2010 at 7:10 am
Im late to the post but I personally wil be glad to see Bayh gone—he is one of the Progressive Caucus which is a very left leaning group, practically commie. To Libertarian Mom we are trying to have seminars for kids in civics which they do not teach much anymore; thinking how to organize history
classes on weeekends or after school (I know, kids will hate that), —the very great Clarence Carson wrote a 7-8 volume (short books designed for junior high) American history course. I used it to help my nieces with history and they are the most knowledgeable in their class. I think we have to have hands on the education, regardless of where kids go to school—we have to be responsible for transmitting the knowledge of American system to the next generation. The schools are part of the problem.
January 15, 2010 at 11:29 am
Great conversations here. Open eyed people, calm responses, wise information, and those in INDIANA vote Bayh out. Unions will support him strongly, if you can one on one talk to union people, do, lost souls are saved daily. Did you know bayh uses Anita Dunns consulting firm for his campaigns. she is the one that said she was a Mao fan.
January 17, 2010 at 3:39 pm
he will be voted out
January 25, 2010 at 6:56 am
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