Here’s an interesting article by Jay Ambrose that has us wondering if a “Great Tipping Point” is upon us.
This is a phrase we hear used a lot lately — and even employed by Bill Daley in an Op-Ed letter written this week as a warning to Democrats that the nation is set to turn against them, in a big and irrevocable way, because the Democrat Party is defining itself as the party of:
* profligate spending
* race-baiting
* irresponsibility
* invasive government
* freedom stealing
* socialism
* enemy of small business
We are an interesting point of argument for a “Great Tipping Point” ourselves. One of the reasons we have kept this site going is that this is a journal, of sorts, of the political evolution of a set of diehard, lifelong, take-no-prisoners Democrats who now look upon the Democrat Party as a foreign and alien thing we want nothing to do with.
All of this happened in less than two years.
We went from being guys who walked out on blind dates if we found out the person in front of us was a Republican, to being people who have more Republican and Independent friends today than Democrats. In fact, the majority of people we know who used to call themselves “Democrat” now identify as Independent. The course the DNC set in backing Dr. Utopia and forcing his nomination alienated more lifelong Dems than the party chooses to realize.
We still call ourselves “Democrat” when pressed, out of cultural memory and nostalgia we guess. It’s the same way, when pressed, we’d say we’re “Catholic”, because that’s how we grew up, that’s the school we went to, though we haven’t set foot in a church in a great while. We loved John Paul the Great as Pope, but never listen to a damn thing Pope Benedict says. We don’t like him, don’t have any priests or nuns here in Chicago we especially like, and don’t feel compelled to come running whenever church bells ring in our neighborhood.
It’s the same with the Democrat Party. We love the Clintons, and we will do anything for them as long as we live. We do not like or support the current Democrat president, however. We don’t back his agenda, and we truly believe he is driving this country into the ground on his narcissistic quest to become “President of the World”. As of the latest vote on Healthcare Rationing, there are also no longer any Democrats in the Senate or House that we support, either.
Frankly, the whole lot of them can take a flying leap for all we care. We’d love to see each and every one of them lose their seats in upcoming elections, because that Healthcare Rationing bill is unconstitutional as written, and one of them should have had the guts to stand up to the current president, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi to shut it down so things could start over and the bill could be written properly.
Because Democrats in the Senate, especially, rushed through a bill they didn’t have time to read, when they have no idea how this is really going to impact Americans, just so they could run home for Christmas and declare victory, we intend to do everything we can to see to it all of these people lose their jobs.
The reason for that is clear to us, in one word: incompetence.
Never in our lives did we dream we would be at this juncture, wanting to see Congress swept clean of Democrats at the first available juncture.
What was once a centrist party is now the party of corruption, the party of backroom deals and massive, in-your-face bribes. Anything in Nebraska currently named after Ben Nelson needs to be re-named, pronto. The Great Whore of the Senate has brought massive shame to his state. We’d say the same thing about Mary Landrieu, but with people like Ray Nagin in elected office in Louisiana, her bribe was pretty much business as usual.
The Democrat Party is revealing itself as a collection of crooks who want to steal as much money from the hardworking as possible, to hand it out as welfare to the lazy and incompetent, and to reward loyal voting blocs. There is zero concern whatsoever for the country itself.
Just as Nelson struck a deal so Nebraska would stop paying its fair share for Medicare, foisting that bill onto other states, so Democrats want hardworking people to pay to cover the bills incurred by the laziest members of their voting blocs.
That’s shameful, and unacceptable in our eyes. We want no part of a party that operates this way, and rewards such bad behavior.
We do not, however, think Republicans are tough enough. They aren’t fighting socialism hard enough. The GOP is not offering up a solid enough rebuke of Democrats’ behavior, with a firm battle plan to take back the country and set us all on a course towards prosperity again.
If Republicans did that, we don’t know where we’d end up on the spectrum, but think we’d be able to culturally stop calling ourselves Democrats at all if things reached that point.
What’s interesting to us, in thinking about our own journey these last two years, is the fact that we WERE such partisan Dems, and now we look upon the Democrat Party with great disgust.
So, what about all the Americans truly in the middle, who had no strong allegiance either way?
How do THEY feel about Democrats now?
Are things bad enough that they’re ready to run to the Republicans in droves like they did in 1980?
Have we reached that cultural tipping point?
What do you think?
December 26, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Wow, you sure defined me, a lifelong liberal Democrat with a 40-year Democrat-only voting record until 11/08. When I read about today’s Dems, I have to ask myself, who are these people? This article helps explain it:
Works and Days » Where Did These Guys Come From?
http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/where-did-these-guys-come-from/
The idea of equal outcomes is basic communism. With freedom, democracy, and capitalism, there are winners and losers. The idea is to have equal chances but you succeed or fail based on your merits. If you’re poor, you’re motivated to do better. Communism, Marxism, and socialism eliminate human motivation and result in decay. That’s why it always fails.
I sure hope we’re at a tipping point but the idea might be a tad premature. There isn’t a final HC bill yet so we don’t know all the details yet if one is passed. People need to know just how much they’re being screwed. We have a rough idea now so we can guess some of the rest.
The American public must decide just how far to the left we move. Maybe they’re getting an idea they don’t like what’s happening and they’ll put a stop to it 11 months from now.
December 27, 2009 at 12:23 am
Ron,
Even further to your point that there winners and losers in a situation where there are equal chances to succeed, I should also add that even when you “lose”, you can use your God-given talents to look for opportunities to accompish what you want. For me, that’s what free market capitalism is all about – the opportunity to create more opportunities even if your first try failed. You can go back and look for other opportunities. Reward me for trying and I will expand my business
December 27, 2009 at 7:36 am
The author of the column you link, Victor Davis Hanson, has consistently the best insight into what goes on in the world.
He is a farmer and a classics professor, and his writing reflects that. He has a way of eloquently but simply expressing the truth of the matter.
His language is always restrained and even keeled.
Folks could do worse than to follow this man’s thoughts as often as he publishes them.
December 27, 2009 at 7:58 am
excellent article. Helps me understand. Doesn’t make it better.
December 26, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Great question…I hope it is a BIG YES!
This spending is so out of control. I thought Bush spent alot lol. Well Obama makes him look like a pauper.
December 26, 2009 at 5:07 pm
For the independents? Hmm – not really a tipping point, I don’t think. At least not for the fiscally-conservative independents. Oh yes, the Dems are worst than the Reps at this point. But the bailouts and subsidies all the other major spending bills were a good deal more bi-partisan.
We don’t want to get rid of all Democrats, per se. We want to get rid of all the fiscally irresponsible politicians. And a good many of those are Republicans.
So we’ll be voting for anyone showing any ability to understand economics and fiscal responsibility, be they Republican, Democrat, or the (Wo)Man from Mars.
December 26, 2009 at 8:27 pm
You’re comment gives me the most to discuss. What I have noticed in the past few elections, as well as the press conferences of the bullhockey being passed is the sheer excitement over wining. WTBH! I totally agree that the political class ignores the bejeebees out of us, but the power lies with the majority. The majority needs to move as quickly away from a Democratic dictatorship as possible. This last election was won on the cult of personality, but anyone can attest that personality only lasts until 2:oo am when you want that guest to PLEASE LEAVE!” Cult of personality has nothing to do with achievement or competence, just popularity. We need to change the guard and give them a chance and in two years, we will know if a third party is inevitable.
December 26, 2009 at 5:11 pm
For the independents? Hmm – not really a tipping point, I don’t think. At least not for the fiscally-conservative independents. Oh yes, the Dems are worst than the Reps at this point. But the bailouts and subsidies and all the other major spending bills were a good deal more bi-partisan.
We don’t want to get rid of all Democrats, per se. We want to get rid of all the fiscally irresponsible politicians. And a good many of those are Republicans.
So we’ll be voting for anyone showing any ability to understand economics and fiscal responsibility, be they Republican, Democrat, or the (Wo)Man from Mars.
December 26, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Ya know who actually cut spending and saved money while in power? SARAH PALIN!
December 26, 2009 at 6:58 pm
And Dan, that’s one of the reasons I liked her for a veep candidate. She GETS it!
December 26, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Ditto
December 26, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Only if its Hillary & Sarah.
December 26, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Sorry, Hillary already floated an atrocious health care bill. Back then, dems had the guts to say, this bill that you wrote behind closed doors, a no-no, is awful.
December 26, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Vote TEA Party, kick ALL the incumbents out.
As a die-hard conservative, I’m mostly disgusted with the GOP’s lack of principle. The Dems are just doing exactly what I expected, sacrificing our country at the altar of their progressive ideology.
December 27, 2009 at 9:08 am
Yes! For me, only a Tea Party, GOOOH, or otherwise INDEPENDENT candidate will do.
Time to CRUSH both major parties. They might be motivated by different EVIL and SELFISH ends, but they amount to the same thing: BAD FOR AMERICA AND HOSTILE TOWARD LEGAL AMERICANS!
December 27, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Dear Garlic, This is totally OT, but I know you are familiar with the Fed, and I was wondering if you would be so kind as to look at my article and make a comment. http://sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/this-ones-for-the-girls/
I would be thrilled to hear your opinion.
December 27, 2009 at 11:43 am
I think we have to vote individual candidates, regardless of the party they make use of for their backing. Even if a TEA Party emerged, if the better candidate was in another party, I’m not going to vote for a party. Finding and supporting potential *principled, conservative* candidates with time and money over wimpy RINOS sends enough of a message and still carries with it the possibility of winning. In the short term, you have to harness the system a little bit. We can’t afford the time to monkey around in “building years.” (Let’s just say Palin ran as a Republican…?)
December 26, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Yes, it will, particularly once the kool-aid drinkers realize what it will cost them and their families and exactly what they are getting for all this taxation ….. nothing.
December 26, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I don’t know if the healthcare debacle will be the last straw. We may be heading for multiple tipping points, just this past year we’ve had the economy, cap and tax, and healthcare and the all have their own fuse and flashpoint. The problem has been that nothing has stuck to the current administration and they have successfully been able to blame Bush.
Well the tide is turning
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/economic_stimulus_package/december_2009/for_first_time_plurality_believes_stimulus_plan_hurt_the_economy
The Dr is going to own the economy shortly.
December 26, 2009 at 10:40 pm
He already owns it.
December 26, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Are things bad enough that they’re ready to run to the Republicans in droves like they did in 1980?
It depends. In 1980, the Democrats offered Carter and a continuation of the previous four years’ policies, which people had had more than enough of… and the Republicans offered Reagan, who spoke plainly enough that you could tell where he stood even if you disagreed (rare thing for a politician), and who was always optimistic about America.
If the next three years is like this year, the first part of this formula will be in place. But who will the Republicans offer the country? If it’s someone who offers a sensible attitude and a general hopefulness, that’s a possible recipe for success. (But if it’s a Democrat-lite, a gloomy gus, or a would-be nanny, forget it.)
December 26, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Well, I’m afraid things will get much worse before they get better, as hard (and scary) as that might be to believe. I have been reading articles about the liverals wanting to do away with filibuster and other rules that prevent the majority party from running rough-shod over Congress, after the GOP showed how “obstructive” it was with the HC care debate and obviously such partisan behavior is detrimental to the liberals’ superb plans! Seriously, I would not be surprised to see the current DNC attempt to change our very political process… including changes to secure their seats and powers permanently. That’s perhaps why they are blatantly thumbing their noses at their constituents…
Dark days lay ahead. Will the GOP manage to stand for our freedoms? Unfortunately, I fear not in time to halt the inroads being made…
December 26, 2009 at 10:00 pm
We conservatives,( Repubs, Dems and Indies) need to take over the R party. Sorry Ds but your party has strayed way, way to far to K.Marx.
Yea, dark days lay ahead, but Bright days after that.
December 26, 2009 at 11:39 pm
It’s always darkest before the dawn. Don’t give up, better times are coming.
December 26, 2009 at 8:27 pm
This was sent to me by my daughter…a former Obummer supporter>
It is a slow day in a small Indiana town and streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit.
A rich tourist drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.
As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.
The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer.
The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Farmer’s Co-op.
The guy at the Farmer’s Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her “services” on credit.
The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner.
The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the rich traveler will not suspect anything.
At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves town.
No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now out of debt and now looks to the future with a lot more optimism.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government is conducting business today
December 26, 2009 at 9:13 pm
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1122691,CST-NWS-hosp23.article
U. of C. shunning poor patients?
HOSPITAL DISPUTE | Obama’s wife, 3 aides tied to plan to free up space
Comments
August 23, 2008
BY TIM NOVAK AND CHRIS FUSCO Staff Reporters
Sen. Barack Obama’s wife and three close advisers have been involved with a program at the University of Chicago Medical Center that steers patients who don’t have private insurance — primarily poor, black people — to other health care facilities.
Michelle Obama — currently on unpaid leave from her $317,000-a-year job as a vice president of the prestigious hospital — helped create the program, which aims to find neighborhood doctors for low-income people who were flooding the emergency room for basic treatment. Hospital officials say such patients hinder their ability to focus on more critically ill patients in need of specialized care, such as cancer treatment and organ transplants.
(There’s more…much more!)
December 26, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Is this the tipping point? Hard to say when I look at the Obama voting-I want a piece of the pie even though I didn’t earn it- members of my own family.
Apathy with hands extended for their gubmint cheese. Why? Because they can and as long as they can, they will look adoringly at Barak o’Boobie.
December 26, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Oh…and as long as the mainstream media, schooled in leftist academia, keeps their heads buried up Barry’s behind…
December 26, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Does anyone believe the LMS anymore?
December 27, 2009 at 10:46 am
unfortunately, yes.
I understand freedom of the press, but what they are doing is not investigative journalism, it’s pure propaganda. Why can’t journalists and editors be held accountable for what they report?
December 26, 2009 at 9:43 pm
No, we’re not there. Unemployment continuing and the constant yammering about increasing debt could do it. But I think that before that, if the healthcare bill passes, the first paychecks that stink on ice will hit home.
Many people have to feel direct pain before they even notice what is going on, let alone react or take action.
December 26, 2009 at 10:15 pm
I just keep wondering how the Republicans will manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
The Dems will say that the Republicans are trying to keep health care away from everyone but the rich. A pretty stupid statement, but stupid statements seem to have been bought by a whole bunch of stupid people in the past.
- Republicans want school children to starve. (Was claimed by the Dems – remember Gephardt’s big emotional speech in front of a school? – when the Repubs wanted the states to control the federal money for school lunch programs and not the federal government.)
- Republicans are trying to take away your Social Security
- Republicans are trying to cut funding to Medicare (which is now a huge joke since the Senate bill cuts 500 Billion from Medicare.)
Many more I could list.
And the Dems will have the press to support any lie they decide to spew.
Right now I’m hearing that DeMint is wrong – The Feds already require people to pay for Medicare, so requiring someone to buy insurance isn’t unconstitutional. What I thought of immediately is that:
A. Medicare is an employment tax. Once you reach 65, you aren’t paying for Medicare. You pay for your supplemental if you choose to buy it, you aren’t required to get a supplemental – plus even if you never worked a day in your life you still get Medicare.
B. It is unconstitutional for the government to require a citizen to enter into a contract with a private party – and this is what will happen if the law requires everyone to buy insurance. They won’t be buying it from the government. Which IF people paid directly for their Medicare – they pay the government.
It took me a minute to figure out the error of this remark – but is the media reporting it – no. They’re just going along with the “Hey it’s not unconstitutional.” crap the Dems are now publicizing.
December 26, 2009 at 11:28 pm
I just wanted to qualify that when I speak of Dems – I’m referring to the liberal, socialist ones that seem to have control of Congress and the White House. I realize that there are Moderate Democrats who have as much a problem with what is taking place as I do. (I see so many here.) But just as the RNC is having a very hard time understanding that we don’t want the Good Ol’ Boy network, the DNC is full-steam ahead to socialism.
December 26, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Hillbuzz,
You guys are really smart and I don’t care to comment about the “tipping point,” however I would ask you to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church – yes, it’s a real document. I am a married woman who did (and does) use birth control, yet as a rational, thinking person, I still understand the argument for unprotected married sex. It’s totally rational and explainable, yet I still couldn’t submit. It’s my failing and yet it’s perfection that I strive for and what’s wrong with that?
I do believe that some folks recognize their failings and then fight to justify them, but what’s wrong with recognizing your failings and striving to correct them? (or recognizing that you’ll never be perfect, but admitting it.)
Anyway, Pope Benedict does continue JPII’s work. Try to recognize it.
I am ranting, but I just wanted to say, give Pope Benedict a chance. I think he is truly an apostle of Christ and an acolyte of JPII. (Whom I say at Grant Park in 1979!)
December 27, 2009 at 3:35 am
Sorry, snowed in and drinking lots of wine and got totally off topic. Will try not to do it again :)
December 26, 2009 at 10:18 pm
“Whom I SAW at Grant Park in 1979
December 26, 2009 at 11:20 pm
This thread trully ‘hits’ me. Maybe that is why I keep coming back here. Sometimes multiple times during the same day…because even though demographically we are very different…we evolved politically very much the same.
I am, and have always been a fiscal conservative (even when I did not know what those words meant). Why? I grew up literally around the corner from a public housing project in Pittsburgh (in the 70s).
My diabetic dad struggled to keep working, and my mom worked in house keeping in a hospital. We lived in an old, shotgun style row house (paid for, but always in need of repair as it was over 100 years old even back then). I saw the dumpster at the projects continually full…as the less than ten year old building was always being ‘renovated’ which ‘code’ for ‘the people that we give this free housing don’t do a damn thing to take care of the place, so we have to keep fixing their damage.’. We had shelves on the kitchen wall, and an old rolled steel kitchen sink unit. My mom wanted wooden kitchen cabinets her whole life. She never got them. But we would see cabinets trashed in the dumpsters, to be replaced by even newer cabinets (that my working parents could never get enough ahead to afford to buy, but others were just given for free, and as they didn’t own or work for all that nice cabinetry, I guess it was fairly easy then to kick a door front in).
That lesson has stayed with me my entire life….
With that insight to my mindset I will answer your question about the “Tipping Point.” I don’t think we are there yet…but getting damn close. My relatives (who had to see my copy of Going Rogue in the living room along with the PALIN 2012 sign I made that I slide over the billboard at the train station under the tree–the set is hubbys from when he was a little boy so I can’t permanently change anything–just do temporary things). Anyways, guests who saw all of that were more interested in comparing NetFlix queues (another example of the constant dumbing down of America, memba when watching a movie was special…not several daily?)
To finish my thought…the “Tipping Point” is close. But I trully fear that it will take some sort of 9/11 type event to awaken the ‘Have you seen Avatar?’ culture. Thursday’s ‘incident’ in Detroit (and the second barely reported–but its out here on the web–arrest of someone, at the Detroit airport trying to board with ‘suspicious’ items) should be scaring the hell out of us all. But we are distracted by Bowl games and movie releases and sales at the Mall.
I pray I am wrong…but know I am right. And that a profound national security breach, and G-d help us all ensuing loss of American lives, will be the event that starts the knock down of all those Hopey Changey dominos (and possibly, ‘hope’fully leads to impeachment of Dear Leader and the dismantling of the corrupt Democratic party that I am still registered as.). Color me DINO…
December 27, 2009 at 7:04 am
My parents too worked hard their whole lives; they never “celebrated” by buying frivolous things. Instead they saved so that their kids could have a future.
Your story touches me. I can’t get out of my mind that horrible audio from Detroit when those women were standing in line for the free “Obama money.” It’s why we voted for him, they laughed.
But many Americans are hard-working people who simply won’t tolerate this. I just sense a real anger and frustration on the part of those who work at what’s happening.
You’re right about so many things. Kids, especially, are prone to be enticed by the gadgets, the MSM, the Hollywood Anti-American dreck and the starry eyed notion of “hope and change.”
They don’t see a problem with a registered Republican being denied health care by some government official. (shudder)
December 26, 2009 at 11:49 pm
I, like you guys, used to be a Democrat. Then I opened my eyes and realized they don’t represent anything I stand for. They simply appeal to surface level thinking – stuff that sounds good in sound bites, but doesn’t work in reality.
I wish more Americans would wake up like you guys have, but I know people who are so dozy they still think Obama’s doing a great job. I rattle off only a partial list of where he is doing harm, and people just shrug. The shruggers (the apathetic) amongst us are the people who worry me.
December 27, 2009 at 12:34 am
I think a lot of people, Republican and Democrat, are facing the tipping point. I know a lot of people who might define themselves as somewhat conservative who voted for Dr. Utopia (though they must be deluding themselves- and everyone else) and boy are they regretting it now. But, like you said, the Republicans aren’t helping themselves much either. There are very few Republicans I care for anymore after seeing the massive spending bills rammed through.
Now the polls are including the Tea Party and they’re polling better than both the Dems and the Republicans and I think that’s a clear sign that people are pretty much disgusted across the board and if the Republicans don’t get their house in order they’re going to be in big trouble too. I think that’s why Sarah Palin is rising in the polls too. People are desperately seeking common sense.
December 27, 2009 at 12:36 am
Using an old axium;
There are old pilots,
There are bold pilots, but,
There are no old bold pilots –
There are poor democrats,
There are smart democrats, but,
There are no poor smart democrats.
December 27, 2009 at 2:02 am
Sorry, this is off topic, but did you all hear that Obama wasn’t told until three hours after the plane landed that there had been a terrorist attack?
The Washington Post reported it in their story about the attack, but has now scrubbed it from their site. I understand other media outlets are scrubbing that information as well.
Was BO unreachable? Was he outside his vacation home elsewhere? Or did Rahm figure Obama would just be in the way and not be able to make any decisions anyway? Did Obama instruct them not to call him, as he’s on vacation? A lot of questions need to be answered.
It was 7 a.m. Hawaii time. Where was Obama for three hours on Christmas morning while we were under attack?
December 27, 2009 at 2:17 am
OK. Here is the cache version. This version has been scrubbed from the Washington Post site.
It’s in the second paragraph.
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=white+house+failed+plane+attack+an+attempted+act+of+terrorism&d=179540068637&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=9a5d8399,8621b486
December 27, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Eliza, it looks like that link has been “unlinked”. No shock. The people that crucified GWB over 9 minutes in a school have no comment on why the president wasn’t told of a thwarted terrorist attck on our country for 3 hours.
December 27, 2009 at 2:27 am
Hillbuzz Boyz, come into the light…you can DO it!!
(Being a ‘Recovering Democrat’ has a certain cachet to it.)
I think the tipping point is this [] close and getting closer with every scary incident, which seem to be occurring with ever-increasing frequency.
I believe the Republican Party can be resurrected under Sarah’s leadership.
Conservatives only need apply.
December 27, 2009 at 6:54 am
What is interesting to me is that people of the conservative nature are actually speaking out, for a change. I am also a diehard conservative Independent, though I have voted for Democrats (a very select few).
But it interests me that I feel motivated to talk about politics in public now. It’s much different now. I was at the beauty salon the other day and a spa yesterday and the one subject that came up was….THE ONE and how he’s spending us into bankruptcy and what a nightmare health care is going to be. This has never happened before. It’s always the liberals blathering on with complete confidence that no one will ever challenge them because they are **SO DIVINELY RIGHT**
So, for me, if there’s a tipping point, it’s that people who are conservative by nature and thus not as willing to intrude on other people’s politics are not going to take it anymore, just like airline passengers.
I think independent moderates are definitely moving our way. They’re scared, for the first time.
Now if only the Republicans could get their act together.
December 27, 2009 at 7:47 am
Boyz and everyone else, here is a book recommendation: Battle Cry of Freedom by Stephen MacPherson. It is a wonderfully written and fascinating single volume on the Civil War.
I mention this book because it explores in detail the role of the Democratic party (as well as all the other parties), and believe me, it is ugly.
The Democrats have been a nasty, vicious group throughout history. Name-calling and racial divisiveness are default tactics.
I am not a Republican, for a variety of reasons, but knowing the policies and politics of the Democratic party throughout history would make it impossible for me to ever join that crowd
December 27, 2009 at 8:13 am
Hillbuzz, I think you are too kind to the Democrats who ‘didn’t have the time’ to read the bill. Rather, I think they were totally disinclined to read it, trusting that it would be hunkydory with them because their own kind wrote it. This is beyond shameful. This total lack of intellectual curiosity is a wanton dereliction of their duty as representatives of the people.
Those who don’t ask the question will never know the answer and we are the sad recipients of this totally unacceptable intellectual laziness.
December 27, 2009 at 8:59 am
O.T. but of grave importance:
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2009/12/26/of-executive-orders-and-trojan-horses-update/
December 27, 2009 at 9:01 am
This administration, Pelosi, Reid will go down in history as the worst in history. They will be responsible for the Democratic party imploding…without a doubt the worst example of what greed and power does to a country. It is mind-boggling that the American people fell for this crap. It was quite simple, really, for them to put on a good charade and with the help of the MSM and Hollywood convince the population that Obama would “save” them. It should be used in school as the perfect propaganda coup of our time. The people elected a socialist and congress that is determined to completely change the structure of our country and constitution. But this is not some poor third world country. People are not going to lay down their Blackberry’s and give up their American way of life or standards. No…they will do the American thing and kick these bums out to the curb and get rid of this nonsense. I hope they’ve learned their lesson and will pay attention more seriously when we go to elect a president. Hold government responsible…hold the MSM responsible. This is not something we can just take lightly like it’s an episode of American Idol. We have to be wary and careful when electing a president.
December 27, 2009 at 10:42 am
Hillbuzz Guys-Who could trust anything that comes out of the Democrats mouths? This is how Nancy Pelosi artfully committed fraud to prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming the winning and rightful nominee. jbjd has information on her web-site on how this fraud was accomplished “Out of the Mouth” of Babes, “The Three Card Monte”. I had to study this information, more than just read it. Fraud, lies etc. committed by DNC, Pelosi and the rest of the gang. PS These are Huge Crimes-this is being forwarded to applicable Attorneys General (state laws)in several states.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
“Think of the DNC Services Corporation as land sharks. For your own safety, ignore them. Always keep in mind, everything coming out of the National is smoke and mirrors. Why on earth would anyone credit the word or good intentions of the same people who perpetrated election fraud to get state election officials to print the name of BO on state ballots notwithstanding the Corporation refuses to respond to requests from hundreds or thousands of voters to disclose on what documentary evidence they based their Certification, he is Constitutionally qualified for the job? (See, for example, “OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES” below on this blog.)”
December 27, 2009 at 10:47 am
Before the election in in the few months following the election there were thousands of cars on the road (I’m on the road state-wide) with Obama stickers. A huge # of homes also had their little Obama signs in their yards.
In the past 3-4 months, it has become rare to see any stickers or yard signs whatsoever. And, I’m talking about the entire State of Florida. High school kids can’t stand this rat bast**d and call him a total fraud.
People who thought that they would remain in their homes thanks to the chocolate Jesus man were kicked out anyway. There are entire cities in my State that look like ghost towns now. There are hundreds of subdivisions that were built and homes sold to unqualified buyers that are now empty shells, having been looted of everything including fixtures.
Chocolate Jesus made sure to give the big banks several months of leeway to screw us by telling them that as of 1/20/10 they couldn’t raise interest rates, etc… So the banks turned around and hiked rates to 29.99% even on folks that have never missed a payment.
We are being royally screwed. We are being ignored, chastised, belittled and even our retirees have been called horrible names for protesting chocolate Jesus’s policies.
Yes, we are at a tipping point. It will bit them all in their collective a$$es early in 2010 when there will be a massive tax revolt. People are planning to up their exemptions so that there is -0- federal withholding and we will bankrupt these fools. It is the ONLY way they will listen.
Starve the beast.
December 27, 2009 at 11:04 am
This may facilitate a tipping point by mid January.
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12886
by mid-January there’s going to be a social crisis, caused by a new wave of 1 to 2 million foreclosures and a breakdown in unemployment payments, to people who need to continue this support from the government to live. LaRouche demanded immediate bankrupcy reorganization, through his Homeowners and Bank Protection Act of 2007, to be applied retroactively, and a reinstation of a Glass-Stegal standard, as emergency measures to be passed now. If we do not take these measures, states and cities have no means by which to protect the American population.
On unemployment, a study by the US Department of Labor finds that 25 states have exhausted their unemployment reserves, and have borrowed an estimated $24 billion to cover the gaps. In addition, the study estimates that a total of 40 states will have exhausted their state funds by the end of next year, leading to an expected deficit of $90 billion.
December 27, 2009 at 11:30 am
I watch what’s happening and keep thinking I’m in a really really bad sci-fi movie. Every year it gets harder to keep our business IN business. We are just little tax collectors for the government. Inventory tax,income tax, payroll tax, city income tax,sales tax,BW-comp fees, unemployment tax. etc. Then throw in the onslot of new hires throwing their section 8 housing apps, daycare vouchers and the state paperwork for us to act as collection agent for child support enforcement.
My little sleepy town has now turned into section 8 land. The only construction happening in a once booming town is the gov building new sect 8 housing. The schools are now flooded w/kids we can’t afford. And now the school system comes at the home owners wanting a $300 per month increase in my property tax. My blood pressure boils every time I’m at the grocery store now. I agonize over my “list”, my coupons and how to pay for it. Almost every time I shop now, I’m behind someone on food stamps. I’ve never seen someone hand over coupons. Why? Because you never respect what you never worked for.. The government, especially the liberal democrats have created all of this. Entitlements create spoiled children who were never taught to work and don’t respect those who do.
Are we at our tipping point? God I hope so..
December 27, 2009 at 11:58 am
Though a dyed-in-the-wool Republican here, I am not terribly fond of the GOP leadership at the national or state (Illinois) level. There seems to be too much go-along-to-get-along going on! That being said, there isn’t a whole lot the GOP leadership can do. They don’t have the votes to stop anything–in the nation or the state. And if they aren’t careful when they raise hell, they get painted as idiots, even when they aren’t. It is a tough spot politically. Still . . . I’d go for raising hell over this fiasco of a socialist health care bill.
December 27, 2009 at 12:11 pm
We’ve passed the tipping point and the dominoes are falling. And it is not a Democrat/Republican thing or even a Liberal/Conservative thing. It is the logical result of having “the best government that money can buy.” When the ignorant American voter allowed Wall Street and the financial services industries to stage a successful bloodless coup and turn America into a plutocracy was when the tipping point was reached.
Rationed care is hardly a new occurrence promulgated by the current health care bill. Ask anybody who has ever had health coverage from an HMO and they can tell you about restricted access and rationed care. It is nothing new.
And get this straight once and for all – AMERICA IS AND HAS BEEN SINCE INCEPTION A SOCIALIST COUNTRY. The general population has always paid for the common defense, public education, the building and maintenance of public roads and the creation of the system of National Parks are all socialist endeavors. So let’s everyone cut the crap about this President (who I did not support in the primary process nor whose behavior in office makes me happy) turning America into a socialist state.
December 27, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Paying taxes does not mean we have always been socialist LOSER. Nice try troll.
December 27, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I don’t think that his comments represent those of a troll. I believe that you are correct with your comments about taxes, though. We pay taxes to finance government programs and services that are supposedly for the common good, but unfortunately, government bureaucracy has run roughshod over what can be defined as the common good. The common good should be defined as providing the best services for the lowest cost in order for citizens to be able to keep as much of their hard earned money as possible. Government needs to be kept in check because of its obvious lack of concern for wisely spending other people’s money.
December 27, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Just like the hillbuzz guys and many other Dems I did not vote for Obama. The entire campaign was so Dr. Goebbels/Hitler-American Idol, not one thing of substance. Attractive, I don’t think so. Michelle is even uglier. Education-the media says he is, anybody see anything from Mr. Sealed Records? What’s the big frigging secret(s)? Another comedy scrubbing of web-sites, why? What are they constantly trying to hide? Since the tea party brought many disparate groups together-love of country, love of the Constitution, fellow Americans. The DNC installed Herr Obama and both will go down the tubes. Sarah has gone Rogue (as opposed to corrupt). The DNC and Obama went corrupt to the stratosphere. With a choice like that what would any person possessed of their full faculties do? Obama thought with media intervention that he could fool all of the people all of the time. Lincoln says I don’t think so.
December 27, 2009 at 12:30 pm
If they release his educational records it is quite likely that we will find that glowbama was registered as a foreign exchange student. We may also find poor grades. We would also learn who it was that financed this POS manchurian candidate.
They know that when these records are uncovered it will create a Constitutional Crisis, including the removal of several prominent dems including pelosi, who certified him as constitutionally eligible when there was nothing ever produced by him to allow her to certify.
Suggestion: Purchase a weapon and ammunition (the supply is depleting) and start stocking in non-perishable foods. We are going to need them when the welfare payments and unemployment checks stop coming.
December 27, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I agree everything in the Obama campaign is a lie aided and abetted by a complicit and co-operative media. Americans hate secrecy, lies, mistruths, half truths etc. He is not even so-called “African-American” he is mostly Arab and Caucasian only 6 per cent African roots-per Pastor Manning-Atlah of “long legged mack daddy fame”. All of this information should have come out in the election cycle, but anything slightly negative re: Obama suppressed and there was a lot of suppression going on. Did the LA Times ever release that article/video the Obama campaign worked so vigorously to suppress and there must be a ton more of this type of information. I think Rush is on to something when he said Obama is going to go down the same way as Tiger Woods-another media manipulation. To think the guy was done in by a bunch of catty girl-friends. I got more, no you got more etc.
December 27, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Keep in mind that Glenn Beck has been teasing a bit about having some juice on the Obamaness. Breitbart did the same thing in recent weeks and so has Limbaugh.
It’ll be interesting to watch when it comes out. I think these guys are working with eachother on whatever it is they have, and how and when it will be released.
December 27, 2009 at 2:40 pm
According to this article on American Thinker, Obama’s education was subsidized and paid for by:
“Islamic supremacist, Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, and advisor to a wealthy Saudi, had paid for Barack Obama’s education at Harvard Law School”
Most likely this is why Obama and his team are covering up his trail. They are as busy as cats in a litter box hiding the stinky crap.
December 27, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Also probably explains the totally inappropriate (for the President of the United States) groveling and scraping in front the the Saudis.
December 27, 2009 at 1:42 pm
You betcha!
Palin 2012.
December 27, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Republicans deal with Democrats like this administration deals with Muslim terrorists, appeasement as opposed to all out war. Take no prisioners. Look at the sorry ass campaign McCain ran last year.
December 27, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Well Said. Sarah Palin was the only one who acted like she wanted to win.
December 27, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Does anyone think this health care bill reads like it was written by a drunk?
Maybe it was!
December 28, 2009 at 4:20 pm
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December 28, 2009 at 9:39 pm
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