Sitting here thinking about the latest attempt Muslims made to destroy a commercial airliner and murder everyone aboard, with whatever they were up to on the Northwest Airlines flight from Holland to Detroit, we’ve realized how easy it would actually be to solve terrorism if Western governments had any backbone — or if a Western, non-government, pan-national movement arose to counter Al Queda and other Muslim terrorist groups on its own.
Terrorism could actually be solved in one easy step, that should go something like this:
* every time Muslims attack an embassy, an airliner, a hotel, or any other Western target, a prominent mosque somewhere will be demolished.
* one such mosque will be leveled to the ground for every 100 people killed in any terrorist attack by a Muslim; since there were close to 300 people aboard the Northwest flight, if the Muslim terrorist aboard had been successful in his plot, that would have been 3 mosques somewhere in the world that would have been burned to the ground in retaliation.
* mosques in shopping centers or in the suburbs aren’t high-profile enough: we’re talking these lunatics’ most holy, sacred sites…leading all the way up to the Dome of the Rock, Haggia Sophia, and all the sites in Mecca and Medina ultimately, if these people don’t get the message and stop hitting Western targets.
Currently, there’s no real downside for Muslims in blowing things up, aside from the loss of their lives. It appears these suicide bombers are certifiably insane, believing they are going to be rewarded for their murder spress with scores of virgins and all the hummas and grapes they can eat in the afterlife. The carrot Islam gives them is much, much greater than the stick they fear in terms of laying down their own lives.
But, we’ve been told that in Islam, it’s taught their sacred sites will never be destroyed, because Allah loves them all so much. Taking out their mosques and the shrines in Mecca and Medina should definitely rattle them – since their Koran swears to them this would never happen. So, once it happens, the Koran will be proved fallible. If the Koran’s wrong about one thing, even the most zealous of these murderers has to see the Koran could be wrong about other things too — and those promises of scores of virgins as rewards for martyrdom might not be true either.
Would Muslims be so quick to bring down airliners if they knew doing so would mean three or four mosques somewhere would be smashed to bits in retaliation?
Would Muslims at large continue to tolerate, if not aid and abet, terrorists if mosques were destroyed every time terrorists struck?
Currently, there’s no real detriment to terrorism for these people. It costs relatively little for them to carry out their terrorist attacks: the price of the weapons used, an airline ticket or two, whatever housing and food went to raise the terrorist bomber, and minimal logistical costs. The costs to the airlines attacked are in the hundreds of millions, including not only the cost of the planes lost, the insurance claims from victims’ families, and other direct costs of the attack itself, but the lost revenue in the months afterwards when many would-be passengers are too afraid to fly.
For terrorism to stop, Muslims need to feel that financial smackdown, too. They need to know, to a person, that when Muslims attack the West, that Muslims will lose the millions they’ve invested in these mosques worldwide, starting with the ones that have special meaning to them.
As special as all those dads and moms are to the children orphaned by Muslims.
As special as all those friends are to those who are left on the ground still trying to process that loss of life a decade later.
As special as everyone ever killed in a Muslim bombing truly is.
We lost a good friend on 9/11 named Jane, when Muslims hijacked planes and turned her office into a crime scene. Another family friend died over Lockerbie, Scotland when Muslims took terror to the air in the 80s.
We want the West to fight back. If governments won’t do this, then the marketplace demands an answer to Al Queda in the form of a new Knights Templar, or something of that sort. Kind of an A-Team that’s summoned into action after a terrorist attack, doing what the US, Israel, and other political entities are seemingly prevented from doing by liberals. It can be totally rogue, and governments can threaten its existence and despise all who are a part of it, but just imagine if Muslims feared a boogeyman out there just waiting to punish them for their evil deeds.
Like spoiled, evil children raising Hell with no fear of punishment, Muslims need to be afraid of something — there’s currently no effective “Wait ’till your father gets home”, when they really and truly do appear to need one.
Too bad there’s not a George Soros type radical billionaire out there on the side of good who can undermine Islam and Muslim terrorism the way these people are continuously and effectively undermining the West.
December 26, 2009 at 12:21 pm
We have the best special forces in the world. It is time to go hunting one group at a time plus all of the above.
December 26, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I’d add pig’s blood to any bombs of Muslim “holy sites” – taint the very ground, so they wouldn’t be able to rebuild ………………..
Semper Fi’
DM
December 26, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Fidelis, indeed. I like the way you think, Diamond Mair!
December 26, 2009 at 9:56 pm
What can I say – daughter of a Marine Mustang, married to a former Marine Drill Instructor, & former Marine myself ……………….. ;-)
Semper Fi’
DM
December 26, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Actually, pig’s blood could serve two uses. First: Crop dust the Qaaba and a other Islamic holy spots with pig’s blood every time a Muslim blows up something. (Not el Aqsa, though, as it’s too intertwined with the Jewish Second Temple and the Wailing Wall.) Then, each and every Muslim terrorist killed in a suide attack should have every recoverable molecule of his body sewn up inside a pig carcass. That, I’ve been told, denies the shaheed (martyr) entrance into paradise and his seventy-two raisins, plus dooms him to hell everlasting.
The Qaaba does have some historic merit and should be preserved as a cultural treasure, which is why I say pig’s blood alone should do the job. Crop dust a bunch of saudi palaces with pig’s blood, too, while we’re at it. They’re the biggest supporters of terrorism, and they export wahhabism like South America exports coffee beans.
December 26, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I read somewhere that the sewing-them-up-in-a-pig-carcass idea was pioneered by the British in Sudan or Somalia at the end of the 19th century, when they were having problems with an early form of suicide bombers.It worked like a charm. But just to suggest something feasible, how about throwing bacon bits at Nidal Hassan or the Nigerian guy who tried to blow up the plane? I’m thinking they’ll have to go to court at some point, and to do that they might have to take a few steps in the open air. Would it be doable to have special teams of bacon-tossers show up at their court dates and toss away?
December 26, 2009 at 9:45 pm
genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2009 at 9:54 pm
It was during the Sepoy Mutiny { http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/archive/t-472445.html } that the Brits got the Muslims AND the Hindus all bent out of shape over the use of beef {sacred to Hindus} fat & pork {spiritually fatal to Muslims} fat to grease their bullet cartridges ……………….
Semper Fi’
DM
December 26, 2009 at 11:21 pm
This sounds like a good idea.
December 27, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I agree with the pigs’ blood strategy. In fact, make the threat that any remains recovered of the terrorists will also be wrapped in pig skin and soaked in pig’s blood. Is this fighting dirty? You betcha! They’ve been doing it for years, and it’s time to hit below the belt to send deterrence!
December 28, 2009 at 2:25 pm
There was an article I read some years back were the city states of SE Europe (Vienna, etc.) were hard pressed to hold back the Turkish Muslims (13th century?). The Turks were recruiting fanatic muslim troops at the time.
The Europeans came up with the brilliant idea of burying the bodies of muslim soldiers in pig skins. It was believed by the muslims to prevent the soul from reaching Paradise.
The tactic worked. When the word got out, recruitment dried up.
December 26, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Never Happen! Whilst we have a Castrated Coward-in-Chief>
December 26, 2009 at 12:31 pm
He’s not castrated – he never had’em to begin with!
Semper Fi’
DM
December 26, 2009 at 2:47 pm
DM, I stand corrected. Thanx. (E-8 Ret.)
December 26, 2009 at 4:09 pm
He wasn’t bowing to the Emperior
of Japan or the Saudi King, he was just checking to see if he had anything down there between his legs.
December 26, 2009 at 12:31 pm
someone needs to taint the site at ground zero with pigs blood before it can be built.
December 26, 2009 at 3:35 pm
DANG good idea! I hope there are a few NYC dwellers on here. Shoot, Guilliani (sp?) would probably do it if you suggested it to him. He’d stand there, drain a pig and have a pig roast.
None of our Presidents would have done this. Not even Bush. They are too afraid. Altho, now that I know it, if push comes to shove, I may start carrying a bottle of pig’s blood with me every where I go.
December 26, 2009 at 6:56 pm
And since there’s a mosque being built practically on ground zero, better let some of that blood run into that building zone.
December 27, 2009 at 10:23 am
Sort of like fending off werewoves? ;-)
December 27, 2009 at 11:13 am
I have a very good friend of mine who owns a pig farm in South Carolina, perhaps I should give him a call……
December 26, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I’m all for your approach, HillBuzz! I’d like to suggest that we start with the mosque on Newark Ave. in Jersey City, NJ, from whence the blind sheik responsible for the first WTC attack comes and where the members danced on the roof in celebration on 9/11.
Let’s blow it up while services are in session. (OK, I don’t mean that; I’m just pissed. Let’s warn, then level it.)
December 26, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Pig’s bood and bacon grease. Everybody’s got a jar or can that they drain their bacon fat into.
December 26, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Swine flu, anyone??
December 26, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Our Commander in Chief needs to bring his ass back from the beaches of Hawaii and start getting this nation safe.
December 26, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Good Luck on that one!
December 27, 2009 at 12:35 am
Might I suggest that Dear Leader and Me!!!Shelle stay over there as long as possible.
The Obamas’ frolicking, in photo after photo presnted by a still adoring media, is a sublimal undermining of his popularity.
While Americans shiver and wonder how they will financially ‘stay afloat’ our ‘Messiah’ is actually floating in the surf and sun. Or golfing…or just plain being as far disconnected from the American people as possible. Right down to ‘no Church’ on Christmas.
They look bad.
December 27, 2009 at 4:33 am
Well, if the “Church of What’s Happening Now” is located at the golf course, gym or beach, he’s attended 10 services. Amwn.
Good concept, especially here. This is the first time he has had opposition in this DemViceGrip state, so far no public appearances for photo-ops, and hopefully the protesters surrounding the area will entice the fashion queen and friends to remain behind closed doors.
December 27, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Better yet, stay in HI for good and let grown ups with cajones do the job.
December 26, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Great idea Boyz! Peace through superior firepower. Notice what happened ~or didn’t~ under President (Cowboy) Bush?
December 26, 2009 at 12:34 pm
hillbuzz guys, Love your solutions-I have a question would a herd of wild pigs running on the Mosque grounds ruin the “holy site”?, would a sprinkling of pigs blood on the Mosque ruin it also? Definitely non-violent and the weapons of pigs blood and a herd of pigs not hard to obtain. Can be easily done day or night. You are absolutely correct, they have no punishments to fit their crimes, which they think is a reward anyway. Cannot reason with terrorists that’s for sure. They remind me of Hitler’s SS, when Obama and minions don’t remind me of Hitlers SS.
December 27, 2009 at 8:03 am
Several years ago, a Texas man started holding pig races when a bunch of Muslims bought 10 acres next to his pig farm and told him the pigs needed to go.
I know that he had races for some time, but I don’t think the Muslims stopped building their mosque – here is a link – http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,241897,00.html
I don’t think it deterred them,but it sure made that Texas farmer happy!
December 26, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Get real guys. These are the people who went on a rampage throughout Europe due to a cartoon. Bombing mosques would only add more heat to a pot that’s boiling over.
That said I do like your idea about an A-Team kind of private special ops unit. The US gov’t essentially pays Blackwater (or whatever it’s called now) to run the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why can’t the private sector hire Mossad to do what needs to be done to “bring the pain?”
December 26, 2009 at 1:15 pm
So we should cower?
December 26, 2009 at 2:34 pm
No. I just don’t think that their retaliation by blowing up St. Peter’s, Lourdes, Fatima, Notre Dame, Canterbury Cathedral, the Western Wall
or one of the Great Synagogue’s, the Lotus Temple, The Ise Jingu, Tirumala Tirupati Devastanam, Jokhang Temple, the Golden Temple at Amritsar, Holy Trinity Lavra,
Mahabodhi Temple, Mother Church of Christian Science, the Salt Lake Temple or dozens more sacred sites, all vunerable, all part of the collective heritage. No. I don’t think that is a really good idea at all.
December 26, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Christain places of worship have been destroyed regularly in many Islamic countries already, and continue to this day. Christians in Iraq were told not to celebrate Christmas for fear of reprisals, and the Copts in Egypt are ritually killed and oppressed. A priest in Turkey was told to destroy his bell tower in a response to the Swiss Marinet ban…and where have all the religiously inspired Christian riots been? Nowhere. It’s not how we operate.
Retaliation, what ever. The slightest thing will set muslims off. Perhaps it will take one of those sites you mention to be destroyed for the world to wake up to this evil cult’s march toward world domination through terror and self victimization.
December 26, 2009 at 2:34 pm
They “boil over” over anything and everything – cartoons, headscarves, jeans, you name it.
I don’t think any nation, *especially the United States* should cowtow to Islam. They have their own countries. If they don’t like the west, or western customs, or western religions – then GO HOME.
December 26, 2009 at 4:07 pm
You may get your wish about the Israelis bringing the pain. The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs just announced a call up to all top Israeli diplomats serving around the world to return home for talks to discuss broad strategic and diplomatic issues at a conference next week in Jerusalem. h/t American Thinker.
December 26, 2009 at 4:33 pm
This is a big deal.
December 26, 2009 at 9:25 pm
A very big deal. Get them out of harm’s way for what MAY be coming. Maybe some fireworks early in the New Year? At least they have guts.
December 26, 2009 at 6:16 pm
OMG.
December 27, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I don’t know that we’ve ever tested the theory. I think it would make them blink and it might be a way to get their own followers to stop their extremists from constantly bullying everyone else.
December 26, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Try the 9/11 suspect(s) as war criminal in a military tribunal, away from New York and preferably on a US military base, like Ft. Hood. Try THAT Ft. Hood suspect as a terrorist in a Ft. Hood military tribunal.
Terrorists are all crazy, so the insanity plea must not be allowed.
THEN, through a Congress that suddenly becomes sane long enough to do it, outlaw Sharia Law at the Federal level while the states do the same.
Then, turn all the mosques into McDonald’s, with Ronald McDonald holding a breakfast sausage biscuit in his hands and the entrance.
In the meantime, do everything we can to get Hillary in the WH. We need a hawk to lead us, not an Islmaic sympathizer/puppet.
December 26, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Oops. “Islamic.”
December 26, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Hill?….Hawk?…WH?…NOT! There I go, itching to get thrown out of Buzzing, but there it is!!
December 26, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Hillary’s a hawk all right. In response to an interviewer’s question re: Iran nuking Israel, she said “retaliate,” “obliterate,” and other choice words. She’s serving as SOS to keep an eye on the global thug regimes, and she passed the CIC threshold in the primaries, IMO.
December 27, 2009 at 4:40 am
Just words.
December 26, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Hahahaha, a sausage biscuit! Had to thank ya for the laugh Texas PW, as I imagined the look of horror on a terrorists face while staring eye to eye with our very own RMc.
December 26, 2009 at 1:20 pm
“Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord, I will repay”.
While I understand the angst and anger, I also know that the American people have a problem with “being” like the ones they are trying to bring down. This “unit” would have to be some really callous people to deliberately destroy a bunch of people in a mosque(to my knowledge there are always people in mosques..I could be wrong there). If all it took to destroy their mosques was pigs blood, that would have already been done, I think.
What can be done is exactly what was just done on that airliner. The passengers need to pay attention to their surroundings; be aware of anything even minutely out of order and jump when it’s necessary. PC can be thrown out the window when it looks to be a danger. Stop the terror and talk later.
My heart goes out to these people because, even though it was foiled, it still caused terror in their hearts. When we can, we need to keep on with our lives and not let that terror rule us. That, too, will put a dent in the plans of terrorists.
God bless.
December 26, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Ah, but these wanna-be martyrs have a bad habit of storing weapons and munitions in their mosques.
Would be a terrible, terrible shame if a stray spark accidentally set that off…
December 26, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Doing nothing has gotten us here. It’s time we let these people know they can no longer f&%k with us. I’m sick of this crap, I’m sick of we Americans letting all these outsiders shit all over our lives and ideals.
Try going to their country, try it with a bible in your hand. Your head will sawed off in a heart beat. Try going to some other country illegally and march down the streets holding an American flag demanding to be given amnesty. You’ll be shot on the spot.
We Americans have become pushovers, and the world is walking all over us. What happened to the people of the proudest nation in the world? We are becoming a joke at the hand of political correctness, and it’s literally killing us.
December 26, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Lonni, IMMEDIATELY after 9/11, I recommended that a platoon of menopausal women Marines undergo the training necessary to infiltrate & capture ObL – ‘we’ would exfiltrate him in a manner comparable to the removal of the NVA general in The Green Berets {hook a balloon to his jumpsuit, have a C-130 snag the line, reel him in} – bring ObL to a ……………. “secure” location, in CONUS or not …………….. keep him quiet with 10-20 mg. Valium in his bloodstream for 6 weeks – DURING this time, put him on high-dose estrogen {this would shrink his ‘manhood’, grow his breasts, diminish his facial/male-pattern-body hair}, tattoo makeup on him – then, throw a burqa over him & drop him in Taliban Central ……………… let his “followers” have their “leader” back ………………. that ‘callous’ enough for you? WE ARE AT WAR – NOT one ‘we’ declared – WE are the ones attacked for NO REASON OTHER THAN “OUR” SUCCESS – you can call me a hard a$$ or whatever – but DO NOT expect ANY sympathy for these subhuman scum {BTW, you know where you find ‘sympathy’ in the dictionary? Between ‘shit’ & ‘syphilis’}
Semper Fi’
DM
December 26, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Hahahhaha. Nice!
December 26, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Wonderful idea… but the Western world would rather light candles and hold vigils after the fact than take punitive, preventive, or even merely rational measures to ward off attacks. It’s not just in regard to terrorism, either–look at all the convicted but free felons and pedophiles in the news this past week alone for committing more felonies and more child abductions, abuse, and murder.
Why can’t we call evil by its name and deal with it appropriately? Since the West has lost its fear of God, why is it still afraid to “judge” and take responsibility for its actions to keep the populace safe from human predators and hate-filled crazies? (Think of it: local governments, under duress from the ACLU etc., are now compelled to protect the privacy and “rights” of its pedophiles by not letting the neighbors know where they live. If this society won’t protect its children, how can we expect it to protect its adults?)
This is another item for our To-Do list–agitate to bring back the death penalty and accelerated legal procedures for heinous crimes. Our justice system is in passive (passive-aggressive?) mode, stretching out procedures as if hoping the parties will die or serve a full sentence waiting for trial. We can’t expect any real action on terrorism until the urge to act decisively has re-entered the system.
December 26, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I’m with Palin on this. If it takes profiling – then profile away. I’d rather have 300 people on a plane land safely, than have them all in pieces on the ground like what happened in Lockerbie.
December 26, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I agree 100%, we let too much go these days. Like I said above we are tying our own hands here, and it is literally killing us.
December 26, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Terrorism is an act of war against the west and must be treated as such every time and that does not mean wearing red coats and marching in a line.
December 26, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I understand the frustration, but Its actually not really a smart idea at all.
December 26, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Boyz I am pleased to see you venting your frustration over this matter.
I would prefer that their mosques are left alone. Mosques such as the Hagia Sophia do not belong to them anyway. The Hagia Sophia belongs to the Catholic Church. A better way is to make them return this property to the Catholic Church, or at least to the Orthodox.
The Al Asqa mosque is the one that should be removed, brick by brick. Likewise they stole the property on which it is built. The temple area does not belong to them.
In Spain, especially in Cordoba, all mosques should either be returned to the Catholic Church, or the property should be returned to the government.
Large mosques in Egypt should be prime targets for destruction. :)
Alas, I do fear that if we started to retaliate then yes they would start taking out the landmark Cathedrals such as Notre Dame.
Europe must take back their cities from these Muslims. Long ago the Europeans had the balls to fight against the invading Muslims, but now in their cowed political correctness they refuse to fight this enemy. Instead they are behaving like Dhimmis.
I would rather see the Muslim populations expunged from Europe. Yes, I would like to see them expelled from each nation, and force them to return to Pakistan or the other nations. It is not possible to expel those who have converted, so I think that other measures should be:
1. Sharia Law must be declared illegal.
2. Women are not to be allowed to wear the burqa or other head covering unique to Islam.
3. No Muslim to receive public funding, unless they have in fact contributed to the welfare of the country via income taxes.
4. Restrict them from sending money overseas.
Yeah, I think that there should be heavy restrictions upon them – make them want to leave.
In my own country, I think that we should say no to all of the asylum seekers, especially if they come from Sri Lanka and Afghanistan.
December 26, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Islam should be treated like Nazism is in Germany. It is illegal. Nazi paraphrenalia is banned. Mein Kampf is not allowed in book stores or libraries. Even Hollywood movies are not allowed to film in Germany if they are using Nazi flags and uniforms — instead, they must film in Austria.
Germany never wants Nazism to return, so it takes every step imaginable to make sure it never again gains a foothold in Europe.
Meanwhile, Muslims have imported Sharia law to Britain, have taken over France, and practically control the Netherlands.
Europe is a continent of fools.
And, yet, our Liberals here in this country think Europe is the thing we must emulate.
Ridiculous
December 26, 2009 at 3:34 pm
hillbuzz
I agree. It should have never been allowed to get this far in England, France and elsewhere.
Islam should be banned.
December 26, 2009 at 4:44 pm
AMEN!!
December 26, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Per our plan above — should Muslims ever take out St. Peter’s, Notre Dame, Westminster, etc. it would be automatic retaliation to turn Mecca and Medina into parking lots.
Frankly, the only reason they have never hit a major cathedral or the Vatican, we believe, is that they fear that would, indeed, go too far in many eyes and Mecca and Medina would go down.
Apparently, from what Muslims have told us, the destruction of Mecca and Medina is just so unfathomable to them that their heads would explode and their faith would collapse. Allah is supposed to protect those two cities, so if anything should wipe them out, that means Allah has abandoned them.
Or Allah was never real at all.
What then?
December 26, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Worth a try!
As things stand now, they are like many far right evangelicals here. They are completely sure that they have the answers and the rest of us just don’t know anything. I know this type well. My nephew works for Pat Robertson and having a conversation with him makes my head want to explode.
We need to knock them off their self righteous pinnings and if destroying their holiest places does it, I’m all for it. The sooner we do it, the sooner we may have an end to their destructive ways. Think of the lives saved!
December 26, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Pat Robertson etc. are not trying to blow you up or anyone else.
December 27, 2009 at 4:48 am
In the interim, prevent them from building mosque’s anywhere on American soil.
December 27, 2009 at 8:23 am
jsbz: No, Robertson isn’t trying to blow up America, but he is trying to reshape religious and evolutionary thinking here along the lines of his own beliefs. The rigidity of that belief system parallels that of fanatical Islamists, sans the physical violence.
(Then again, who are the ones blowing up abortion clinics? Religious extremists, I believe.)
December 26, 2009 at 7:39 pm
No the more I think about it, the more I think its really a bad idea. There are other ways and methods that don’t expose innocent lives and irreplacable heritage sites to get the point across. Creating a world war based on religious fanaticism is not the way to go. Everyone take your paxil.
December 26, 2009 at 10:14 pm
We are not creating the war. They have already declared a world war based on religious fanaticism on us and it does not mater what we think or if we want to play they will kill us.
December 26, 2009 at 8:42 pm
If the destruction of Mecca and Medina mean so much, and would destroy their faith….. especially if they were previously responsible for hitting the Vatican, Notre Dame or Westminster, then I would be standing on the sidelines cheering the destruction of these sites….. just so that the people within Islam who are moderate would turn their backs on what has always been a political theocracy.
If the Vatican were destroyed it would not destroy my faith. This is because my faith is in Jesus Christ, and not in the buildings within the Vatican.
December 27, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Sorry, elizabethrc but only trying to convert is not remotely the same as blowing people/ buildings up. “Sans the violence” is a huge differentiator. And the blowing up of abortion clinics has been vociferously denounced by amaistream Christian leaders. Again not remotely the same in the Muslim world. This is the same argument that the liberal world has tried to do: paint the conservative Christian world morally the equivalent as the extremist Muslim world.
December 26, 2009 at 3:25 pm
aaargh my comment disappeared.
Boyz it is obvious that you feel frustrated. Look at what happened in London in the Tube, as well as in Bali, on two separate occasions. More than 200 Australians have lost their lives in these incidents (including at least 6 that were killed on 9/11). We have endured other losses during hotel bombings in Indonesia in particular.
The evil cleric who was helping the 9/11 bombers is now believed dead. I hope that they have verified his remains. However, there is an equally evil man in Indonesia by the the name of Bashir. He is another Yemeni evil person.
December 27, 2009 at 8:24 am
No, he’s not dead. Sure wish he was, but apparently he was not among the dead, as first reported.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-fg-yemen-awlaki26-2009dec26,0,6789406.story
December 26, 2009 at 3:28 pm
We all feel frustrated over what has happened. These people are pure evil. Yet not all who are Muslim are evil like that…
I know one mosque that I would like to see disappear, it is the Lakemba Mosque. Also, not sure what I can do to protest the building of a mosque very close to where I live…. they are so PC in Canberra that they fall over themselves to accommodate this kind of thing… and they are so bloody naive because they know nothing about the real Islam.
December 26, 2009 at 3:33 pm
BTW I do not agree that the Saudis are the largest financiers of terrorism, or at least not the Saudi royal family. Not even the Bin Laden family are totally responsible for the terrorism. A lot of the terrorism is happening from Yemen. The Fahad family are facing the terrorists as well. There have been a number of incidents in Saudi Arabia and they do come down heavy upon the terrorists.
It is like in Pakistan, sometimes you cannot find these people because they are invisible yet they are everywhere. When the attack took place on the Sri Lankan cricket team there seemed to be a conspiracy within the police force. The bus driver who saved the team even belonged to the group that is most likely responsible for the attack.
Folks these are fundamentalists. They appeal to the most conservative side of people. This in turn fuels the situation. At the very heart of the problem is the usual tyrannical desires to get control of the country.
I think that the major sponsor of the terrorism is Iran, working through Syria, and through Lebanon.
Saudi Arabia, UAE and QATAR are all on the other side.
December 27, 2009 at 8:26 am
Islamic fundamentalism has nothing to do with ‘conservatism’, and I do wish people would stop saying that.
The conservative side of people does not make people kill other people. Really!
Islamic Fundamentalism appeals to the mean, greedy side of people. Because Islam is a mean, greedy fake religion.
December 26, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I like the cut of your jib, HB.
December 26, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Go to http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.com/2009/12/islamist-al-queda-scuzzbag-attempts.html for a comic but serious take on this situation.
December 26, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Actually, a couple correction about Hagia Sophia.
It has always belonged to the Orthodox, not the Catholic. Constantinople was the 2nd Rome, until the fall of Constantinople in 1453. We Orthodox Christians did not voluntarily leave Hagia Sophia, we were driven out. There is a story that Liturgy was being served, and as the the invaders entered the church, the priest serving the liturgy carried the cup and chalice bearing the Body and Blood of Christ went into the wall and disappeared.
Another point . . . there is a prophet, that was made by a saint who lived on Mt. Athos, that Hagia Sophia will be returned to the Christians peacefully. Quite significantly, one of the ruling Ottoman emperors back in the 19th century, in renovating the building, ordered the frescos plastered over instead of being destroyed. Why did he do that? I don’t know, but there’s a reason.
So, uh, please leave Hagia Sophia alone. Here’s an interesting site about its history and petition to restore the building back to its original purpose: http://www.hagiasophiablog.com
December 26, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Prior to the split, especially the second split… there was no distinction. The Catholic Church was the same in east and west. That is why I stated that the Hagia Sophia should be returned to at least the Orthodox, but I recognized the Catholic Church as a whole (united rather than split).
December 26, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I do believe that the Turks, that is the Muslims should be driven out of the Hagia Sophia and that it should be returned to the Christians (the Orthodox who maintained control of the Cathedral).
I would hate to see it bombed or destroyed in any way…. just get the Muslims out of there…. :)
December 27, 2009 at 9:02 am
The Hagia Sophia is one of the oldest Christian Cathedrals of Christendom still standing from the days of Byzantium….Taken over by squatters praising Allah.
Of course these squatters could not remove the magnificent murals in the dome showing Christ triumphant…..I always wondered how the mullahs explained that one to the following…..
Nah…Take this one off the list Please….
December 27, 2009 at 9:09 am
Of course sorta related it would be nice if Catholic Monastaries, abbeys, cathedrals etc… ( those that survived the purges and land grab from the reformation were returned by our christian bretheren throughout Europe….But I digress….chuckle….
December 27, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Boyz–rather than Hagia Sophia, I think you were meaning the Blue Mosque. It is also in Istanbul and was built as and has always been a mosque, I think. Hagia Sophia is a museum at the present time and since the Turks are presently persecuting the Orthodox Christians, it is likely to remain so for a while, sadly.
December 26, 2009 at 10:20 pm
There use to be a joke that Hillary couldn’t wear short skirts because her balls would show, I think the same thing for Sarah. We need someone who will take names and kick ass.
December 26, 2009 at 10:47 pm
The world war based on religious fanaticism has already been declared. It was declared a long time ago and it has taken decades to get the troops in place. Western society has become soft and has been fostering its own destruction by the “tolerance” of other non assimilating cultures. Hence we have the Dhimmitude of france, britain, the netherlands and others.
This is what the other ways and methods have “achieved”. Destruction of irreplacable heritage sites is a trademark of the Muslim terrorist. Look at the Bamiyan Budhhas and the World Trade Centre, are they not irreplacable heritage sites.
Turning the other cheek only works if your assailant has an understanding of what that means.
These people understand that it is a sign of weakness and react accordingly. It hasn’t worked so far, so perhaps Western Society should try an old fashioned bit of biffo instead. But of course that would require Western Society to risk missing the latest episode of the daily soap operas and “reality tv” that is so important to daily life.
December 26, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I like the idea boyz…turn a bunch of PMSing women loose on the terrorists. They could do more damage than any government could. Maybe they could form a SEAL team for this purpose. SEALs are all about unconventional warfare.
December 27, 2009 at 8:43 pm
I am still laughing about the use of PMSing women. My, that would send these cowards screaming and crying to their mommies.
December 26, 2009 at 11:33 pm
I cannot believe no one has stated the obvious yet: where 9/11 is concerned, your idea has already been done.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Congratulations.
December 27, 2009 at 3:07 am
I have not yet begun to exact retribution.
December 27, 2009 at 1:29 am
It would perhaps be more effective to simply ban travel by civilized means by any muslim whatsoever. Any name perceived as muslim — any passport from a muslim country — even multiple entry stamps from muslim countries — and that’s it — banned from airlines, trains, taxis, driver’s licenses, ferries, ships, buses — what have you — a total transportation ban.
Let them travel by camel. Let them live in the 12th century.
Hell, turn off their electric, and their cell phones and their internet connections. Simply shun and ostracize these countries. They are nothing short of crazed lunatics. And we should just cut them off from the world.
No food either. Who cares any more.
Their oil? Well, all the greenies should be happy we aren’t polluting anymore.
But really, the peaceful way to go is to shun and ostracize.
As for those here — throw them out — who cares any more. They cannot be trusted. Indeed, they loudly proclaim they are not to be trusted.
Simple, quick, cleansing.
December 27, 2009 at 10:20 am
I agree, Jim. Add to that my idea of banning Sharia law in the U.S. immediately at the federal and state level.
December 27, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Jim–I agree totally with what you are suggesting. (I like the hillbuzz solution, too). I was thinking about this after the Detroit incident–these nuts will have to be brought down by their “own”. USA should really tighten the screws on all Muslims–their travel, their banking, their oil. Of course, not all Muslims are crazed fanatics, but if you inconvenience them enough, maybe they will put the pressure on their country’s leadership to eradicate radical Islam once and for all.
December 27, 2009 at 8:29 am
Didn’t see this here, I may have missed it, but it was a Dutch filmmaker, Jasper Shuringa, who jumped the terrorist when he lit his pants on fire.
Here is a link. Damn, he’s a cute guy!! And a hero!!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/27/2009-12-27_how_flying_dutchman_made_stop_he_was_getting_on_fire__i_just_jumped_over_the_sea.html
December 27, 2009 at 8:37 am
“Damn, he’s a cute guy!”
Beth, I thought the same thing when I saw him. A hero and good looking! ;)
December 27, 2009 at 3:42 pm
And coming from Amsterdam, I bet he is hyper-aware of how crazy the Muslims are
December 27, 2009 at 7:16 pm
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December 27, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Pigs blood. Drench mosques. Drench those wearing bedsheets. Play the PETA card and carry it with you at all times.
December 28, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I like the “an eye for an eye” approach. It’s harsh, but that’s the kind of measures that might have to be taken if those bastards don’t stop attacking us. This is war, after all.
December 29, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Some of these, if not all, would be useful. It is time to make people realize we are actually serious.
January 2, 2010 at 8:44 am
Why, with nuclear capabilities, did we not level the ENTIRE Middle East? The level of
suicide over there is too slow. Speed it up for them, and only kill those that wish to die anyway.
March 17, 2010 at 9:08 pm
This article is great! Makes me proud to be an American..wish more people thought like this. Our country was founded by people who fight back. Where has our values gone…Pearl Harbor…we dropped the Bomb on them! No questions asked. Internment camps too. Now days we are about values humanity and civil liberties. How civil can one be when you come to my counry to desroy it and my family. Eye for an eye in the bible. and trust in God ..just like the ole green back says..Haven’t we always heard the saying money talks. Semper Fi…Don’t Tred on Me!