Here’s one of those things that’s a major head-scratcher for us: James Cameron’s movie Avatar, which he spent half a billion dollars on.
We think this looks like the biggest steaming pile of cinematic fill-in-the-excrement-slang of your choice since Battlefield Earth. But, for years, movie review sites we follow have been raving about this, anticipating it more than the Star Wars Prequels, before any of us knew how bad those were going to be.
We remember, clearly, back to 1997 or so when an Entertainment Weekly arrived (back when we still read that rag) and had a big feature about what a disaster Cameron’s disaster epic, Titanic, was going to be. It complained about all the money Cameron sank into a giant water tank in Mexico, essentially building a new production center there for water-based films, and everything he was “wasting” on computer effects. We read that article and thought, “Wow, the writers of this are so intensely stupid. That Titanic movie is going to be big. We’ll probably see if a few times in theaters ourselves.” And, you know what, the day it opened we actually saw it, left the theater, and got right back in line to buy another ticket, we loved it so much.
It remains one of only a handful of movies we’ll watch again and again and again (in interest of full cinematic disclosure, the others are, in no particular order, Death Becomes Her, The Contender, Mannequin, Easy Money, Back to School, Beaches, Terms of Endearment, An Officer and a Gentleman, and Ferris Bueller’s Day Off).
Now, in recent years we’ve backed away from most of our interest in movies, TV, and music. It all just seems so silly and pointless these days, and we don’t make it down to the movie theaters very often. But, we just can’t imagine people will be beating down theater doors to see Avatar.
This whole project reminds us of stupid things we sink too much money into, never realizing it’s time to pull the plug, never understanding it’s going to be a disaster. It’s like when we try to bake a really fancy cake, from scratch, and all the layers just start coming apart, we’re screwing around with fondant having no idea what we’re doing, and the kitchen’s just a mess not even halfway into the process. But, we’re so in the moment and operating with blinders on, we put the thing in the oven anyway hoping for the best, deluding ourselves into believing it will be the hit of the party.
Never a good idea.
Avatar also reminds us of Dubai: all that money spent indulging architectural fantasies, with the MSM cheerleading it all…and now, BAM!, Dubai goes bust.
Everything we’ve seen about Avatar makes it look ridiculous: like watching Smurfs running around in the jungle, only without the catchy La-la-lalala-la theme song and possibility of Jokey Smurf blowing one of the more annoying Smurfs up but good with one of his “surprises”.
On top of that, it’s a movie about how evil business is, how the United States needs to be sorry for using its power abroad, and how native peoples are all sacred, much wiser than us, and always, always right.
We spent enough money in liberal arts colleges listening to junk like this for credit — and don’t need to plunk down another $10 to hear the same lectures during a Smurf adventure on the big screen.
So we wonder if anyone out there thinks Avatar will be a big success.
Do you want to see this movie?
Are you clamoring for it?
Will you go see it again and again and again like people saw Titanic?
Are we wrong to think this will be a giant dud upon release?
What think you?
December 11, 2009 at 11:38 pm
No, even more so “No!” after this breaking news.
Read it at Deadenders blog.
Climategate…It’s All About The Benjamins
December 11, 2009 by deadenders
Just in case you were still wondering about how trustworthy the UN and the rest of the nerds pushing “Climate Change” for all it’s worth, here you go.
Now that they allowed information to be released that puts their findings in question. They want $60 BILLION to do some more faux reseach on the weather over the next 5 years.
Oh, can catch this CRACK UP OF THE HOPENCHANGEN NO-EVENT, ENERGY WASTING CONference (Hat Tip to McNorman.)
mcnorman
Chief negotiator walks. Things are not going well in Copenhagen. Gigs up.
Lumumba Stanislaus Di-Aping, the negotiator for the so-called Group of 77 developing countries, told Danish television that “things are not going well.” After taking part in an hourlong meeting, he concluded that the summit will “probably be wrecked by the bad intentions of some people.” Pressed by a reporter from TV2 News for specifics, Di-Aping said questions should be directed to the Danish government, which he said was up to “no good.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30484.html
December 11, 2009 at 11:48 pm
No. I have no interest in the movie. The commercials on TV turned me off before I knew it was anti-capitalist. But I figured the other half would have me watch it. Now I won’t see it whether he wants me to go or not.
December 11, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Too good not to pass along.
Indonausea: Statue Of The Obama Child (Who Never Grew Up)…
Again from McNorman’s blog.
http://mcnorman.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/indonausea-statue-of-the-obama-child-who-never-grew-up%e2%80%a6/
December 12, 2009 at 12:00 am
I saw that too. Isn’t that ghastly? Did you notice the medallion? There is a story in that medallion.
December 11, 2009 at 11:51 pm
It appears to be
a. Anti-capitalist
b. Anti-military
c. Same ole’ drivel we’ve been fed for the last couple of decades.
yawn… though I kept thinking “Bluecats in Loincloths” instead of Smurfs
December 11, 2009 at 11:56 pm
When are those loser-hippie-hippie-wannabe-lunie-lefties going to accept THEY ARE THE ESTABLISHMENT now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 12, 2009 at 12:32 am
LOL! I’ve been having that same thought.
December 12, 2009 at 7:56 am
I always picture Geoffrey the Giraffe and hear “I don’t wanna grow up…” when the free-love flower CHILDREN whine whine & well, whine.
December 11, 2009 at 11:59 pm
I couldn’t even get thru the trailer! No kidding. Boring!!!
I did see Titanic twice at the movie theatre. That seems so long ago! I loved Titanic and thought it was so well done.
I very rarely go to the movie theatre anymore because of Netflix. The last movie I saw in the theatre was ‘Julie and Julia’ which was great.
God help us all with the Global Warming/Climate Change BS. Listening to Rush the other day – he said this country is under attack by the Left on so many levels and I agree.
December 12, 2009 at 12:11 am
No desire to see it; I prefer stories that are plausible.
If I wanted anti-American, anti-military, anti-capitalist, and pro everything that is minority, I would watch MSNBC.
December 12, 2009 at 12:27 am
Color me disappointed. Saw the preview on a large Imax screen and, though I knew nothing about it, swooned at the blue people and colorful flying birds and upside down landscape. I’m a special affects ho, what can I say?
That said ….. damn these movies, which should be complete escapism and pretty colors, being used as “message” movies to lecture to us evil capitalists who forked out $10 to see their drivel and who are only free to make the drivel because of the military who fight for their right to do so.
Warped world.
December 12, 2009 at 11:52 am
Add me to the disappointed list. Was looking forward to it, but if I’m going to be lectured in the guise of entertainment, I’ll reread Atlas Shrugged, go to Disney’s new movie or pull out the DVD of Starship Troopers.
As an SF fan, I WAS looking forward to the movie, but now I’m going to pass.
December 12, 2009 at 12:36 am
I can’t help noticing that these scaly blue cat people seem designed for action figures. Made from biodegradable recycled plastic, I’m sure.
December 12, 2009 at 12:53 am
Just had to say: LOVE “Death Becomes Her”. Great movie!
December 12, 2009 at 1:32 am
I’m not going to watch it no no no!
December 12, 2009 at 1:41 am
As we say in our family ‘it’s a rental’. That is, if I ever have nothing else to rent.
December 12, 2009 at 1:53 am
I guess I am petty. I had no idea (til now) that it was an anti-capitalism, etc. movie; however, I had already made up my mind not to see it (dang, I, I, I, I sound like Obama).
Why wouldn’t I want to see it? Because at first I thought everyone was getting so excited about Avatar: The Last Airbender. When it wasn’t that super-awesomely cool movie I got annoyed and boycotted. Yes, I am that petty. Ohmygosh.. *looks in the mirror* have my ears grown?
December 12, 2009 at 2:02 am
A couple of months ago, I saw “Iron Giant” on sale ultra cheap (less than a rental) at Amazon and threw it in my cart. I had some stray warm-fuzzies about it from back when my kidlets were young and have a grandchild now.
I watched it when it arrived and was so disgusted by the leftist propaganda that I threw it out. Actually, I started to donate it to the library, then thought, “Why do I want to inflict this crap on my neighbors’ kids?” THEN I threw it out.
I’m surprised I didn’t notice the slant when we watched it years ago. Most likely it was one of the things that led me to ask my sister-in-law to please stop buying Ranger Rick subscriptions for my kids.
Ranger Rick articles often targeted behaviors that hurt nature, but instead of using words like “polluters” or “poachers”, they always said “people” do this and “people” do that. Criminetly, KIDS are people! Don’t they ever THINK of this??
It’s no wonder liberals are so screwed up and ready to believe that exhaling is evil.
So … did I mention I won’t be watching the steaming pile? :)
December 13, 2009 at 7:28 am
I though Iron Giant was fine.
Seriously, jeezs, maybe we are sometimes politicizing things way too much!
December 12, 2009 at 7:25 am
I have no desire to see the anti-military, anti-capitalist, eco trash. It’s the same old tired story of the ignorant imperialists versus the magical natives.
I’m sure the CGI is fantastic, but I can’t bear Cameron’s clunky dialogue. Honestly, the man can’t write.
I read an eye-opener a while ago about The Abyss. There was a novelization of the movie done by Orson Scott Card and it was done concurrently with filming, something rarely attempted before. Card was able to see the filmed footage as he was writing, allowing his novelization to be much more canon than others. However, he felt that the characters did not have enough backstory, so he created entire histories for even the minor characters. HIS backstories were the ones that the actors relied on during filming because they were so well-thought out and complex.
December 12, 2009 at 11:57 am
Orson Scott Card is a fantastic writer. I respect him even more for openly admitting his Mormonism and writing books and plays with a religious basis.
December 12, 2009 at 8:38 am
No, I won’t see it.
I am one of the few living Americans who never saw Titanic, and never will.
Just for the record, the upper class men of the Titanic did NOT try to save their lives at the expense of others, but rather, in true Victorian code of honor stuff, stood by and helped women and children onto the lifeboats, knowing they were going to die.
If you read the records of the time, these men were heroes. So I won’t see Titanic because of that. Cameron trashed the reputations of those men.
And I won’t see the Smurf movie either.
December 12, 2009 at 9:42 am
I refused to see the Titanic because I’d buried a spouse that year. I simply didn’t want to watch any movies where folks died.
What turned me off the movie for good was the number of folks who literally got in my face and demanded I watch it…one even buying me the video and insisting that “I would LOVE it!”
I watched it years later and I’m glad that I withheld watching it when I chose too. It’s a pretty movie from a costume standpoint— but the rest didn’t do a thing for me. Leonardo deCaprio is and always will be a skinny boy.. I like men.
December 12, 2009 at 8:45 am
sorry to go against the tide, but a friend who saw it in London e-mailed to say it was mind blowing and that the technical aspects of the film were astonishing. So, I’ll probably go for a look see.
December 12, 2009 at 9:29 am
It looked like a pretty movie from a CGI etc standpoint. I’ve just can no longer handle the tiniest about of sanctimonious preaching anymore.
Hell, L&O (all of them) is a drinking game in our house. How many minutes it stays on before you change channels in disgust is how many ounces of wine you get to drink. Have yet to get drunk.
December 12, 2009 at 9:34 am
No way. Those blue cat people completely creep me out. Just seeing them in trailers burn my retinas and scare me.
December 12, 2009 at 10:49 am
Well I suppose you would avoid flying on JetBle or cruising the Blue Nile too. Just don’t buy tickets to the Blue Man Group anytime either.
http://www.blueman.com/
December 12, 2009 at 10:30 am
No.
Avatars are stupid.
The movie looks stupid.
And I’m an adult who doesn’t go the cartoon movies unless I’m taking my niece and nephew.
Who comes up with these stupid movie ideas?
Oh, and did I say stupid enough times?
December 12, 2009 at 10:41 am
I will see it. I wasn’t aware of the eco-angle, but here’s what interested me: a massive military force, far superior to the population it targets, sends in spies. The spies learn that the so-called ‘enemies’ are actually living, breathing, thinking beings worthy of their own liberty, property, and peaceful way of life. The spies then recognize the military force as a coercive, destructive, stealing, liberty trouncing horror and turn on it.
Yep. I think I’ll go see it.
December 12, 2009 at 10:51 am
Good. One open mind present and accounted for.
December 12, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I suggest seeing a grownup movie with the same theme: e.g., Grand Illusion, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Young Lions, Oh What a Lovely War…
December 12, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Now I am disappointed! I thought the movie would be a really nifty, non-animated version of the Avatar anime cartoon. I like the cartoon when I get a chance to catch an episode, so I figured the movie would bring it to life. I take it that’s not the point of this production though, from your post! What a bummer!
December 13, 2009 at 2:06 am
Off-Topic (Sorta) but I rewatched Demolition Man about a week ago and I was shocked at the amount of brain-washing that has been going on without me even being aware of it. Why? Because I realized the the Scrips would have been the bad guys in any newer movie. The anti-socialistic, freedom loving Scrips..the GOOD GUYS. Hard to believe, isn’t it?
December 13, 2009 at 2:47 am
Had to come back and correct myself. I just watched a bit of DM on youtube and the underground freedom lovers are Scraps..not Scrips. Now, ten points to whomever can tell me what book or movie had ‘Scripts in it (pretty sure it was with a ‘t’).
December 14, 2009 at 8:44 am
REVIEW: Cameron’s ‘Avatar’ Is a Big, Dull, America-Hating, PC Revenge Fantasy
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/12/11/review-camerons-avatar-is-a-big-dull-america-hating-pc-revenge-fantasy/
December 30, 2009 at 4:53 am
I’m a huge glutton for CGI eye candy so there’s no way I could miss this flick. Was the eye candy sweet? You bet. Amazing technological achievement.
Am I going to see it again? Not unless I feel like being bludgeoned with baldfaced ecoparables, Evil Haliburton allegories, and Amerimperialist metaphors again. If Jim Cameron thought he was being sly in getting across a subliminal “Americans should be so ashamed for everything we do” preachfest, he’s wagering on an America overflowing with Algorean zombies who were just slobbering for another Day After Tomorrow to rally around so they could call from the cinematic heights, “You see? You see? Moviemakers know what we all should know, too!”… because, heck, when I’m looking to be morally outraged, I turn to Hollywood to appeal to my need for false authority. I have to believe that we’re not all so myopically sheepish, that this brand of Hollywoodized political rhetoric is growing obvious and thin.
I hadn’t read anything about the film prior to seeing it today, which is how I approach all films. There’s nothing a critic or fan can tell me that I can’t figure out on my own once I’ve taken to the theater. As such, I was surprised with the hamfisted thematic force-feeding that played out. You know how I said I crave the eye candy? I wonder how much of the candy I missed from the ten seconds of unavoidably reflexive eye rolling I was doing for every three lines of dialog.
There is one thing Jim Cameron does great. Ever since his Terminator days, he’s been a master of crafting the perfect two-dimensional baddie. Terminator the Baddie: Single-mindedly evil bent on killing the Connors with no redeeming quality. Aliens the Baddies: Single-mindedly evil bent on killing humans with no redeeming quality. Billy Zane the Titanic Baddie: Single-mindedly evil bent on being a real asshole (oh, and killing poor Leo) with no redeeming quality. America-and-All-She-Supposedly-Stands-For the Avatar Baddie: Undeniably single-mindedly evil bent on killing everything on Earth-And-Beyond with no possible redeeming quality.
This is what I googled: “Avatar Preaching.” And here’s where I landed, this here blog. There were more than two pages of results from this search… this one looked the most interesting, so here I will rant.
Will I see the film again? Nope. More, I hope Jim is punished for being such a hateful patriot, in that I hope there will be more moviegoers like me who see it only the once and don’t ever see it again. Jim has $500 million riding on what he presumed will be a second helping of the Titanic Effect. His arrogance that he’s engineered a movie that’s worth seeing over and over and over is sure to be his undoing.
Really great CGI, and the realization of an alien world that actually felt something new and truly alien was fun to sit and “discover”, an experience akin to seeing the first Star Wars flick as a very young boy (high praise), but it just didn’t make up the ground lost with all the freaking preaching.
Once was enough. And I won’t be recommending this film. Sorry, Jim. Swing and a miss. Can I get my ten bucks back?
January 22, 2010 at 1:25 am
I saw Avatar today for the first time and thought it was GREAT. It sent a strong message about Imperialism and Colonialism and how corrupt it is. Cameron really has us get to know these indigenous peoples in this far away land and feel their pain in the face of adversity.
The Americans come in attempting to destroy everything (which embodies the way things are in real life), and I couldn’t help but root for the indigenous peoples to destroy these attackers. Very reflective of how Native America, Africa, and other parts of our world have been conquered and destroyed by colonialist.