This is interesting news, that former NYC Mayor Rudy Guiliani is now positioning to run for NY Senate next year — and not against Chuck Schumer for the full 6-year term, but against Kirsten Gillibrand to fill the remainder of Hillary Clinton’s Senate term.
For starters, here’s what strikes us:
* Giuliani will never be president, because he dressed in drag, is pro-choice (great way to keep the base home on election day), and has a wife, Judith, who tortured and killed puppies as a surgical sutures rep in the 80s and 90s. There is a whole Vanity Fair piece run in 2007 that spells out all the sick and perverse things the two of them have done through the years: it’s been too long since 9/11 for Giuliani to profit off being mayor on that day, which is the only thing that would have trumped most of the negatives about him, especially for conservative voters. The GOP cannot run a moderate and expect to win because those conservatives will sit their butts home. Learn from 2008, people.
* It’s a BIG DEAL that Giuliani is not running for NY governor. That means the state is in too much trouble to save. David Paterson said it would be broke by Christmas, but this is a good indication of how bad things must really be. It seems like Giuliani would win the gubernatorial race if he wanted it. It’s also interesting to us that Hillary Clinton didn’t want to be governor of New York either. Paterson is a weak governor. If he survies the Dem nomination process, he will be a weak general election candidate. It’s interesting Giuliani wants to head to the Senate — a place where he won’t be able to do much of anything because of Senate seniority rules. When so much bad legislation is coming up consistently for votes, being part of the Senate is the last thing anyone should want.
* It is interesting that Giuliani is going for Gillibrand’s two year term and not after Schumer’s 6-year term. That means Giuliani would be either up for re-election in 2012, or he could try to run for president again. Unless Sarah Palin backs him, he’s toast for the presidential nomination. Sorry, but all of us here are gay and we don’t want a president who dressed in drag (that goes for you, too, Charlie Crist). We don’t care why he did it. He did it. It’s not appropriate for a president. It should indeed be used against Giuliani. As should his wife’s puppy killing (where she used live puppies, cut their stomachs open, then demonstrated how surgical sutures she was selling are used to close up wounds like that. After her demos, the puppies were euthanized). By 2012, America will have suffered so much under Dr. Utopia. We really, really don’t need the Rudy and Judith Show after having gone through the adventures of Dr. and Mrs. Utopia.
We heard rumors former Governor George Pataki was running for the Senate. Maybe he’ll run for Schumer’s seat. Governor Paterson humiliated HRH Princess Caroline of Kennedy and forever ruined any chance she had of becoming an elected official herself, so for that the man has our constant gratitude. We know people who’ve worked for Paterson who say he’s kind of an ass and a big baby to deal with, so we won’t be helping him in the slightest — but man, to do what he did to Princess Caroline, that guy’s forever on our Christmas card list, let us tell you.
November 19, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Giuliani is pro-choice and only his current wife is a pet killer. He’s had like 3 or 4 spouses. I’m sure they’re not all bad.
November 20, 2009 at 5:41 am
I think Schumer is a tough opponent to beat. Gillbrand, on the other hand, is vulnerable. All he has to do is get elected, then he’s an incumbent and it will be easier for him to maintain his seat.
November 20, 2009 at 7:38 am
Bingo! Then there is another Republican vote in the Senate.
November 20, 2009 at 9:20 am
Daily Beast is knocking down the Senate rumor this AM. Not sure what’s what.
But, you must start a thread on Oprah and her “love” for Chicago.
“Why would anybody stay in Chicago? It’s freezing here, and I have a mansion in Montecito that I haven’t been able to enjoy.”
November 20, 2009 at 9:22 am
I have never been interested in Giuliani for president, or for any other elected office, for that matter. Yeah, sure, he rallied New York on one of the darkest days in this nation’s history, but I think he’s basically a weak man, who could easily be bullied to change his opinion on any issue at the drop of a hat. Not the kind of linguini-spined man we need as President (we’ve already got one of those, thank you. And that’s enough.)
November 20, 2009 at 9:29 am
Your political analysis is great! I love you! I am a former liberal NYC ‘unpaid’ actress who was ostracized out of the group-think theater late 2002 shortly after I said ‘I support the liberation of the Iraqi people’; from that moment onward I became the ‘lone Bushie’, ‘The Republican’ even though I had not voted for Bush or was Republican.
I was ostracized just because supporting liberation meant I was de facto an ‘evil right-winger’.
I am a 47 year old product JFK’s ‘we shall bear any burden for the cause liberty’ mentality.
I was apolitical most of my life, ie did not vote, missed the Reagan Revolution, partied all through the 1990’s and did not vote for Bush until 2004. I am proud to say I am heavy-duty into politics and will defend Liberty even if it means death.
I am tipping your jar; I read your prior posts about your experience of being ostracized out of the ability to earn income because you refused to obey Chicago group-think oppression.
For seven years I endured the miserable state of groupthink oppression and your courage to resist gives me strength to move forward in confidence.
I like Sarah Palin as well (I am glad you are on her side) she is no groupthinker.
And, she has integrity.
November 20, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Hi susan – hope you stick around with us here in the comments. You will meet many other former liberals, like me too. Or at least I called my self a liberal, but it seems I was much mistaken on what a liberal actually is in practice.
November 20, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I have a good friend who keeps saying she’s liberal… and she thinks she’s ‘tolerant’. The first time I met her, in my class full what she assumed were ‘like thinkers’ (I mean, if you like ________ then you think like me!) She went off on “Republicans wanting to take away our abortion rights!”
OKey Dokey— the entire room was conservative and we quickly, but gently corrected her. I’ll never forget the look in her eyes. Later, she made a remark about how ‘conservative’ the tow was in a disparaging tone and again we asked “why is that a bad word to you?”
The longer I’ve known her, the more I realize—she’s way more moderate, even conservative than liberal.
HOWEVER< she's been brainwashed into believing conservative= bad, wants people to starve in the streets, liberal= good guys who feed people. So saying you're liberal means you're Mother Tereasa and saying you're conservative means you're Hitler.
I've found it's more about educating her to 'this is what conservative thought really means' and 'this is what liberal bigotry looks like'. Plus, she's someone who rarely if ever sees or deals with the folks she's so hellbent on saving.
Ironically, all the conservatives I know work front line as caregivers.
November 20, 2009 at 12:24 pm
EZ – you’re such a good person to help in deprogramming your friend. I thank you on her behalf.
It was my DH who basically gradually led me out of the brainwashing box. But it wasn’t until ‘08 that the worm really turned for me. So maybe it will happen for your friend too, and then there’s no going back to ignorance once you know.
November 20, 2009 at 9:37 am
Not to take up anymore of your time however just wanted to say that by this time next year I will finally be able to move out of Manhattan’s miserable state of Serfdom-I am heading for Freedom; America is a big place full of wonderful decent people whereas Manhattan is a myopic provincial island located somewhere in Dr Utopia’s 57th State.
November 20, 2009 at 11:03 am
Be sure to find a home where the taxes are much, much, lower than in NYC NY!
Maybe look for a state without state income taxes, or at least a city without city income taxes.
November 20, 2009 at 11:25 am
Seriously, we’ve seen lots of folks move down here because of the taxes (OK, not in my county, but we’re a fluke) the excellent school system, cost of living and the pretty much “you live your life and I’ll live mine” attitude.
I’ve grown so weary of the ‘urban is superior’ attitude which is part of the liberal intolerence. Which is a flat out lie. Trust me…. most small towns and rural areas have people just as well educated, if not better, than in most cities. Remember, we’re where folks move to when they retire.
November 20, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I agree, EZBurns. All this stuff about ignorant rural people and flyovers – totally reveals the ignorance of the speakers. This country is full of people who immigrated from all over the world, or their family did, and have connections around the world. People, who do not live in cities or on a coast, travel and communicate all over the world, study in other countries, marry people from other countries.
It’s so prejudiced to stereotype people from outside bog northern/coastal cities as this bunch o’ libs does.
Reminds me of when I was in university and socialized with a bunch of Manhattanites who never relented in giving me s**t for being from western PA and condescended to recognize me despite that obvious flaw. Yeah what an honor. Pfft!
November 20, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Where are you, EZBurns?
We are rural, and we love it. I’m learning to raise goats and chickens and rabbits (since I lost my high-tech job to a Middle Easterner with an H-1 B Visa making half what I did).
My heart breaks for those losing jobs and are stuck in the cities.
November 20, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Beth, We live in SE GA and it’s heaven— major cities are anywhere from my 40 minute drive to work (vs a 45 minute commute when I lived in Atlanta), to 2 and 4 hours away for other cities. Plus it’s 45 minutes to the beach. Our school system is one of the best in the state and we are less than an hour from 3 colleges.
What’s not to love?
Yeah, if I were to lose my job, life would be hard, but survivable– we have livestock, fruit trees, grapes, blueberries— plus there are several small farms that have produce stands (including one ‘organic’ that sells to the city folks ;)) We also have a well so yes, we’d manage. Mostly, because we don’t depend on the gov for anything.
November 20, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Texas, Nevada, and Florida all say “howdy, neighbor!”
November 20, 2009 at 10:30 pm
My concern with the new arrivals is when they start demanding and voting for the same things that destroyed their former states.
PA to CA to TX and I can tell you, the only way I leave TX is if they drag my cold dead body out of here.
November 20, 2009 at 12:20 pm
So I was hoping to post this on today’s open thread, but have to leave soon. Did you see this story in then Enquirer about MO dissing Oprah?
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/67702?cid=RSS
MO being angry and jealous? Noooo, nooo, that would be so out of character….
And not to pile on but over at HA there’s a photo essay of a day in the life of MO that’s worth a peruse:
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/20/a-day-in-the-life-of-michelle-obama/
I will carry that vision of the horizontal-applique mini-skirty gauzy thing to the end of my days, sadly.
November 20, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Sorry OT, but there seems to be no
Friday Open Thread……
Time to boycott the cheesey, tin-foil hat science rag Psychology Today.
Psychology Today Writer: Palin ‘A Very Special Liar’
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dan-gainor/2009/11/20/psychology-today-writer-palin-very-special-liar
November 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Did you see this article about Michelle Rhee and Kevin Johnson, in regard to the Walpin firing?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Exclusive-Congressional-Report-Rhee-did-damage-control-after-sex-charges-against-fiancee-Kevin-Johnson.html
November 20, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I do not get the opposition to Giuliani due to his drag thing. Can you explain?
Since I am straight, I have no idea how to interpret that…
November 21, 2009 at 8:16 pm
I LOVE Giuliani. He is great. If the republicans nominated him he COULD win. He is what many in this country are (even people who call themselves dems – when you get right down to it, even most of them are appalled at this $13 trillion debt).
He is tough on crime, he would stay within a budget, get finances under control, yet he is liberal with a live and let live attitude on social issues.
the problem with mccain was his stance (or, maybe, his I’ll just stick with what the repubs say) re: social issues.
basically, while I love reagan, I do think that making abortion such an issue as he did maybe got the conservative christians. BUT now there is a whole generation of women (and many men) who judge the repubs on the issues like abortion and same sex marriage, etc, and say: I will never vote for those intolerant people EVER. NOT EVER NOT NEVER. That’s a whole generation of people – and I know so many of them – who will ONLY vote democratic, no matter what the other side does (no matter what the dems do). Seriously.
So, Giuliani could win, if the repubs had the guts to nominate him. Unfortunately, he didn’t think he had to work for it – and he’d have had to work harder than anyone, given his views. Unfortunately, what it appears like to most of us is that the republicans are more intolerant – i.e. that there is no room in the republican party for someone like Giuliani. Oh, well.
The libertarians are coming! The libertarians are coming! The libertarian candidate for governor next year got 1 million votes last year when he ran for PSC. The party is picking up speed because people are so fed up with the idiocy we’ve been putting up with from both these parties for so long.
November 21, 2009 at 8:16 pm
oh, and I just recently found your blog and I. LOVE. IT.