I was having dinner a night ago with a friend of mine who is a statistician for a well-regarded private polling company. They do some work for Republicans in California, but most of the work they do is for Democrats or Democrat-leaning operations (Unions, etc.). Anyway, her shop was retained to do a few Presidential polls for targetted states on behalf of a union so the union could decide where to spend their ad dollars for the last week. They did Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Missouri. After mocking the hell out of the voter id spreads used by Rassmussen, Zogby, etc. (and this is coming from a committed Dem who will be voting for Barry O) she said the results of their polling lead her to believe that McCain will definitely win FL, OH, NC, MO and NV. She says Obama definitely wins New Mexico. She said that Colorado and New Hampshire were absolute dead heats. She said she thinks there is a 55% chance Obama holds on in Pennsylvania and a 75% chance McCain wins Virginia. She absolutely laughed at the public polls showing Obama leading Virginia–and pointed out that all of those polls rely on Dem turnout being +4 and as much as +7, when in 2006, Republicans actually had the advantage by +3. She also pointed out that the numbers for Obama in SWVA look absolutely awful and that McCain is running 10 points better then Allen did in NoVa.Anyway, her companies conclusion is that the election will come down to Colorado, New Hampshire and the Republican leaning district in Maine, which in her opinion might very well decide the Presidency (apparently the district in Nebraska that Obama thought he might be able to get is now off the table). She said she has very little doubt that the public polling is part of a “concerted voter suppression effort” by the MSM. She said IBD/TIPP was the only outfit doing public polling that was “worth a bucket of warm piss”.
October 25, 2008
October 25, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Groovy.
I just fail to believe that Obama is ahead in any of those states. At all.
October 25, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Thanks for sharing the story…
Except I hope your friend was honest and not simply trying to give us good news so we wouldn’t vote. ALthough of course I’ll vote.
These political tactics are hard to follow– if we are trailing, we supposedly become eeyores and don’t vote. If they say we’re winning, apparently people won’t feel as compelled to vote. I dunno anymore. But thanks for sharing.
October 25, 2008 at 8:09 pm
My God did I need this tonight.
THANK YOU
(((((((((GROUPHUG))))))))))))))
XOXOXO
LOVE MY PUMA BUDS
October 25, 2008 at 8:14 pm
NM & NH don’t make up for OH & FL.
Barry has never won an election he didn’t cheat in. If the ACORN fake voters can be blocked, and they have nothing else up their sleeve, he loses!
October 25, 2008 at 8:18 pm
The polls are all wrong.
PUMAS + republicans = Palin/McCain ‘08!
Remember, kiddies, keep lying to the pollsters and don’t forget to claim you voted for NObama at those exit polls!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
October 25, 2008 at 9:01 pm
What great news to hear! Wonder what pollsters the McCain campaign is listening to for him to spend Saturday in NM and for Palin to rally in IA?
Being from Va, I’m delighted to hear that SW VA is going McCain. This is the only congressional district in the state that went for Hillary and BO has spent a lot of time there with Va. electeds. He does need to do very well in highly populated and Dem leaning NoVA.
October 25, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I am just thrilled to hear this. I have felt since September the Obama boys were starting to perspire, just used good anti-perspirant. I could never believe America would blink and let someone as unqualified as Obama lead this country and the free world.
Everyone get out and vote…prepare for long lines, endure…it will be worth it.
McCain/Palin 08
October 25, 2008 at 9:30 pm
All PUMAs make me smile! God bless you PUMAs! I will be calling for all PUMAs to come out and play on November 4th!
McCain/Palin08
Obama –> 20 to life
October 25, 2008 at 9:37 pm
i have been telling my pessimistic hubby that mccain will win and now i am vindicated for my belief. hubby the republican, me the dem (registered if not in ideaology) and i am trying to shore up his spirits. go figure. i really need to change my registration this time.
October 25, 2008 at 9:48 pm
What is scary though is what happened in Kenya when they doctored the polls for the opposition to show them in the lead and then when they lost, there were riots.
I do believe this is what we are in store for. Get your glocks ready. Bill Ayres and wife are ready to give it one last try.
October 25, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Whether the polls show that we’re behind or ahead, it doesn’t matter on election day! All you Eeyores and EVERYBODY ELSE just get out there and VOTE!!! Don’t let bad weather, heavy traffic, long lines or anything else keep you from making YOUR vote count!!!
October 25, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Let ‘em riot. We’ll be ready.
October 25, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Oh please…’information’ derived from a ‘friend’ with a ‘private polling company’?
That’s tantamount to a friend of a friend of a friend who heard from some guy that ALL these polls are wrong…
Yes…I’m sure it’s just coincidence that your ‘friend’ just happens to believe that IBD/TIPP – you know, the same clowns who have McCain winning 18-24 year olds by a 70-30 spread? – is the only public polling firm ‘worth a piss’.
Go back to Drudge, Hannity, and Limbaugh with this trash. Better yet, get some treatment before your head explodes…
October 25, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Oh please…’information’ derived from a ‘friend’ with a ‘private polling company’?
That’s tantamount to a friend of a friend of a friend who heard from some guy that all these polls are wrong…
Yes…I’m sure it’s just coincidence that your ‘friend’ just happens to believe that IBD/TIPP – you know, the same clowns who have McCain winning 18-24 year olds by a 70-30 spread? – is the only public polling firm ‘worth a piss’.
Go back to Drudge, Hannity, and Limbaugh with this trash. Better yet, get some treatment before your head explodes…
October 25, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Oh please…’information’ derived from a ‘friend’ with a ‘private polling company’?
That’s tantamount to a friend of a friend of a friend who heard from some guy that all these polls are wrong…
Yes…I’m sure it’s just coincidence that your ‘friend’ just happens to believe that IBD/TIPP – you know, the same clowns who have McCain winning 18-24 year olds by a 70-30 spread? – is the only public polling firm ‘worth a piss’.
Go back to Drudge, Hannity, and Limbaugh with this trash. Better yet, get some treatment before your head explodes…
October 25, 2008 at 11:00 pm
I voted today for Palin (and McCain) and it felt great!!!
October 25, 2008 at 11:14 pm
I cannot wait until Nov 4., when you NAZI republicans get a real spankin’. It’s coming..YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL!! Get used to the TRIFECTA you pathetic neocons….anyone in this room that voted for Bush owes this nation a huge apology for your ignorance and failure. OBAMA!!!!!!!!! YES WE CAN!
October 25, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Thanks to Hillbuzz and a few other sites I trust … I am more than confident that McCain-Palin will win. I am not an Eeyore. I’m sitting with a room full of them tonight — but I am calm. We will all celebrate on the evening of the 4th … even those of us not in Chicago.
October 25, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Entwife,
While poll are most definately being weighted by pollsters in Obama’s favor, mostly based on supposed registered voters, read ACORN. This is done to repress opposition turn-out, same tactics that we’ve seen effectively employed in Kenya(see; Raila Odinga)so you can then cry fouland then dispute the results.
It follows the 1st rule of politicing, prior to using questionable/dirty methods 1st accuse your oponent of using same said tactics. It reduces your opponent objections sounding childish..”But he did it first”!
The only poll that counts is Nov 4th, unless of course there is evidence of voter fraud, oops…see ACORN and Odinga, anyone see see any similarities here? I was going to provide the video on the similarities here, but “this video is no longer available”, go figure.
No, Entwife you’re earlier report re; Obama’s scholarship attained to attend Univ. of Hawaii that required PROOF of elgibility to receive a grant offered to FOREIGN applicants ONLY, is the story we all need to be focusing on. Link below, thought Obama only attended Columbia then H arvard only? Gee, I wonder why.
http://search.libweb.hawaii.edu/search?query=obama&btnG=Site+Search&site=library&client=library&proxystylesheet=library&output=xml_no_dtd
Let’s get on this people! It needs to go viral, post it everywhere bhefore it gets scrubbed!
October 25, 2008 at 11:22 pm
the media attacks on Palin and Joe the plumber have backfired tremendously. Anyone who has witnessed Palin knows she is one of us. A regular person-The media showing contempt for her (and that includes elitists like Noonan) tells us what they think of us.
October 25, 2008 at 11:35 pm
I voted against Obama earlier this week and it felt great!!!
October 25, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Just to let know Clara Palin is going to barnstorm VA on Monday. Mac is going to be in PA and OH. Both will be in PA I think tuesday.
October 25, 2008 at 11:49 pm
The bleck AP is trying to say O has “the advantage” so far in early Florida voting if you go strictly by party affiliation. The wrote a whole story on it and asked the McCain camp how they felt and everything.
Wanna know how many more Dem votes have been cast so far than Republican ones?
1850.
Seriously.
They wrote a bog story.
;-/
October 25, 2008 at 11:54 pm
I’m in Virginia and will go see Governor Palin in Leesburg, VA this Monday morning.
Anyone else in Virginia: she’ll also be in Fredericksburg and Roanoke later in the day.
Let’s kick Barry back to Chicago; which now, btw, has the highest murder rate of any city in the country. And yes, much worse than Baghdad.
Let’s roll America….NOBama!
October 25, 2008 at 11:56 pm
My un-named source refutes all credible, named sources but is absolutely to be believed …. No really …
October 26, 2008 at 12:04 am
My therapist is African American. I was supposed to have a session the day after election day. This week I told her it was probably best if I cancelled that session because if Barry wins, I’ll be extremely upset, and chances are, she and I wouldn’t see eye to eye. I had never talked with her about politics before, but given that she’s AA, I assumed she was probably a Barry supporter. She asked me why I wanted to cancel the session, so I told her that I didn’t trust Barry, and that I’m scared of what will happen if he wins the election. Therapists are supposed to be professional, right?? Wrong! She attacked me! It was unbelievable! I also told her that I was afraid AA’s would riot in the streets if Barry lost. She actually got mad at me for saying that, like I was insulting AA’s and accusing them of being irrational. Then she said, and get this, that perhaps there’s an UNDERGROUND movement that’s anti-Obama and that because of that, maybe he’ll lose the election. But she kept repeating ‘underground movement.’ I kept wondering why she thought anti-Obama people would go underground. The only thing I can think of is she’s so brainwashed by Barry that she actually believes it’s against the law to speak out against him. She is so fired!! OMG, it was absolutely unreal the stuff she was saying to me. She said he’s no different from any other democrat! Oh, really??!! Barry’s no democrat!
October 26, 2008 at 12:13 am
Actually the IBD poll is one of the worst. You can look at the internals and see it’s way off base. fivethirtyeight.com is the place.
October 26, 2008 at 12:18 am
if her outfit did not poll va and pa, how can she comment on those staes?
October 26, 2008 at 12:22 am
This is exactly what Rush has been saying for weeks. Ann Coulter wrote a column about how over the last 30 years the polls have been skewed by the polling agencies resulting in an artificial 6-10 Pt advantage for the democrat nomineee. I have been telling people for weeks now that McCain will win and they all act likeI’m nuts but the funny thing is they are all voting for McCain. In fact i only know one person who is voting Obama and she is a black lady who was raised by a civil right hero. McCain will win!! McCain-Palin 2008!
October 26, 2008 at 12:37 am
Thank you so much for posting this! It has really made my night. My husband and I made phone calls to NM on behalf of John McCain tonight, and it is nice to know that the discouragement the media is selling to Republicans is as unjustified as I have felt all along. I agree-it is a real voter suppression effort, no doubt about it. On the part of our “free press”!
October 26, 2008 at 12:41 am
hmmmm I wonder which Union she was referring to? It must be the one that has a strong enough presence in Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Missouri, Virginia and Maine’s second electoral district to justify the cost of polling each one of those areas.
October 26, 2008 at 1:05 am
PUMA’s are still alive?
October 26, 2008 at 1:32 am
The ene-media will be responsible for the riots if McCain wins. They are the ones who publish these Obama-slanted polls which ignore the vast number of hang-up-the-phone refusenicks who will vote McCain. After the election, the MSM should be boycotted, including boycotting their advertisers, until the bloodsuckers die off. America will be better off for it.
October 26, 2008 at 2:25 am
Let’s remember that electoral votes decide the election. Of the red states, Iowa and New Mexico are gone. To win McCain needs Colorado or he needs New Hampshire and one vote from Maine. The only other way to win is to pick up a blue state like Pennsylvania. That is a long shot at best. Needless to say, he has to hold all of the other red states as well. That is definitely doable. Colorado or New Hampshire and Maine are where it all hangs in the balance.
October 26, 2008 at 2:27 am
Let’s remember that electoral votes decide the election. Of the red states, Iowa and New Mexico are gone. To win McCain needs Colorado or he needs New Hampshire and one vote from Maine. The only other way to win is to pick up a blue state like Pennsylvania. That is a long shot at best. Needless to say, he has to hold all of the other red states as well. That is definitely doable. Colorado or New Hampshire and Maine are where it all hangs in the balance.
October 26, 2008 at 2:28 am
I can also tell you Pennsylvania will be RED, so will NH because I have a source as well, you know how many PUMAS are in Pennsylvania, and they are not saying a thing!
I’ll give you a guess, between 2,000,000 and 3,000,000… to be exact.
I’m in NY, and I will be voting McCain as well, though NY will be blue, heck I don’t care as long as I get to vote against NOBama!!!!
October 26, 2008 at 3:17 am
I am in Pennsylvania
I think we will be red because I haven’t seen a Obama sign within a radius of at least 100 miles and that would be philly.
October 26, 2008 at 3:17 am
I cannot wait until Nov 4., when you NAZI republicans get a real spankin’. It’s coming..YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL!! Get used to the TRIFECTA you pathetic neocons….anyone in this room that voted for Bush owes this nation a huge apology for your ignorance and failure. OBAMA!!!!!!!!! YES WE CAN!
you fit into every stereotype of the obamabot, congratulations
October 26, 2008 at 3:32 am
Nobama, you might be right about the PUMA factor in Pennsylvania as well as in New Hampshire and the northern congressional district in Maine. See my article on the P.U.M.A. factor at:http://www.marstonchronicles.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=115.
October 26, 2008 at 4:04 am
About comment #19, “Obama’s scholarship attained to attend Univ. of Hawaii that required PROOF of elgibility to receive a grant offered to FOREIGN applicants ONLY”
Your link to the uhawaii.edu search page goes to pages that list:
“Barack Obama from Africa
Scholarship winner; Phi Beta Kappa; portraits
Neg# A62-00099″
and
“NEG NUMBER: A62-00099
DATE: 1962 / 06
SUBJECT/EVENT: Barack Obama from Africa
LOCATION:
PEOPLE/INDIVIDUALS: Obama, Barack
GENERAL DESCRIPTION: Scholarship winner; Phi Beta Kappa; portraits
NO. OF FRAMES: 4
MIYAMOTO NO.: 2637
OTHER INFO.:”
Obama was born on August 4, 1961
What you found are references to pictures in the uhawaii library archive of the candidate’s father.
(There’s more than enough reasons to vote against BO this year (I’ve already voted for M/P) … but this websearch isn’t a valid reason)
October 26, 2008 at 5:59 am
I’m in western Mass(a blue state shoe in) & the support for McCain is strong here. I can only imagine what it’s like in the crucial swing states. I don’t believe the polls reported by the MSM as I think they’re used to sway voter opinion especially at this point.I’m a PUMA & will be voting for McCain/Palin. I believe there’s certainly a “silent” majority undercurrent going on here & across the country. I would love to show my support for the McCain/Palin ticket but to do so with a sign or sticker would invite hostility & possible vandalism to my personal property in my neck of the woods. I imagine others feel the same way. Many others.
October 26, 2008 at 6:48 am
Murtha saw the PA internals and was referring to PUMAs.
October 26, 2008 at 6:49 am
Hey Bryan! Pathetic neocons? Nazis? Gosh, you Obama supporters are NICE!!!
October 26, 2008 at 7:39 am
Like I said before, if you want to know the state of the campaign, take a look at what the campaigns are actually doing. Does Obama seem confident to any of you? If PA was a lock for Obama why would Murtha be making excuses for him losing the state ahead of time, by claiming that half the state is racist?
And why would the Obamabots be leaving identical comments here (or one of them leaving identical comments under different names) if they thought the election was essentially over?
October 26, 2008 at 8:46 am
I voted for Al Gore, and if you think the “Patriot Act” is an affront to your privacy sensibilities, take a look at what happened to Joe-the-plumber who now has no job due to privacy break-ins that were far worse than ANYTHING related to years of the Patriot Act.
NObama….Chicago marxist and thug. Hang with Louie, Ayers, Klonsky, Wright, Dorhn, and the rest of the anti-American 60s retread freaks.
Hillary should be against McCain except for the Obama thug, his foreign anti-American donations, and Obamatrons strong-arming the caucuses.
Just say NO to FauxBama!
McCain/Palin ‘08
October 26, 2008 at 8:52 am
#19:
I think that “Barack Obama” is Barry’s father that attended Univ of Hawaii.
Let’s roll.
October 26, 2008 at 9:00 am
Colorado is in the bag for Mccain. If you go to Denver,which is not representative of the entire state) and poll there-you may get an Obama favored result, but nearly the entire rest of the state are those”bitter Americans, who cling to their guns and bibles,” entire towns on the western slope are seasonal towns whose entire yearly income is provided by out of state hunters and skiing. These are decent hard working folks who love their country,love their families,love their God and love their military. they are also farmers who work from sun up to sunrise providing the food that America eats. I see tractors with Mccain/Palin stickers on them and bec ause most houses are off the main road huge signs are painted so they can be seen. These are the people who take care of their own and where evryone knows who you are,knew your parents and look out for your kids. I love this state. Obama and Biden do not understand us- we want he government off of our back,don’t need a handout, and do not appreciate their sneering at our beliefs and insinuating we are racist because we vote by merit,not because the media told us to. Obama came to Grand Junction on the western slope and gathered a crowd of 1800. All he talked about was water rights, like that was our main concern. Sarah Palin came two weeks ago to the same place and got a crowd of over 30,000! People love her! and they also love Mccain. Someone had a huge blow up picture of a sign showing Obama’s computer as a laptop and Mccain’s computer as that of a fighter jets cockpit. Almost every house in this city flies an American flag and Mccains 22 years as a fighter pilot mean much more to us than Obama’s Harvard degree ever will. A harvard degree never helped much on a farm, wasn’t required to serve your country in the military and didn’t automatically make you elgible for POTUS. DEEDS do but Obama only CLAIMS to have done things. He offers us no PROOF. He even tries to pretend he didn’t come up thru ACORN because now it is not politically expedient anymore. Yet his one claim to fame is as a community organizer. Supposedly was pres of Harvard Law Review but somehow has no papers or published articles to prove it. Supposedly graduated CUM SUM LAUDE but will not produce a degree to prove it. No dissertations either, voting record in Illinois state senate- very unimpressive and thin. Illinois senator-zero bills passed and only at the job for 18 months before he began campaigning. He won’t even produce his MEDICAL RECORDS but instead handed in a one page letter written by his doctor.Yet he demands Sarah PaLINS MEDICAL RECORDS IN ENTIRETY.The hypocrisy is never ending for this man, and thankfully the people in Colorado are not fooled by him or Biden.There are also as many registered independents as republicans-mostly all of those will vote Mccain and alot of people registered as a independent solely so they could vote democratic in the primaries. Put your fears at rest people, Colorado is not on the table.
October 26, 2008 at 10:03 am
It does appear that some of the polls (CNN/NYT) went a little too far in their exuberance and they seem to have dramatically decreased their believability in the general public.
October 26, 2008 at 10:06 am
per chance:
I truly believe the media view this election as a win/win for them and “news coverage”. If Obama wins, they win in their efforts to get him elected. If McCain wins, their over-polling of Obama’s chances will contribute heavily to the “civil distrubances” that will follow and give them weeks/months of a crisis to cover.
October 26, 2008 at 10:34 am
To SC:
After that crazy rant you just gave I’d say you’re the last person in the world who should be firing their therapist.
October 26, 2008 at 10:45 am
“hmmmm I wonder which Union she was referring to? It must be the one that has a strong enough presence in Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Missouri, Virginia and Maine’s second electoral district to justify the cost of polling each one of those areas.”
Not at all. It just has to be big enough to use sharp polling to maximize the impact of its spending. It’s like Obama using ACORN/SEIU fraudsters to go after the caucus states. He didn’t commit fraud all the time in every state. Just all the time in targetted states and most of the time everywhere else.
October 26, 2008 at 11:11 am
I still think that as a group we should stop lying to the pollsters and come out for McCain en mass.
But what do I know, I’m in a red state and never get polled.
-J
October 26, 2008 at 11:47 am
I hope, Hillary’s plan will work and Obama will lose the election.
October 26, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Don’t give it to him. Make him steal it.
October 26, 2008 at 1:14 pm
[...] Pennsylvania – forget it, he’s got it. Virginia? McCain – no question. Interesting stuff from HillBuzz (who has really been getting the goods) via my buddy Clyde at My Aisling. I was having dinner a [...]
October 26, 2008 at 5:32 pm
of course, most of these “MSM” polling outfits are more committed to “pushing” the real vote toward their political bias/sources of funding rather than being able to say after the election how right they are (there is no incentive for them to show their prospective future customers how good they are).
Whoops! Maybe if one removes the 3-4% statistical error rate, these polls are accurate. Your “inside” source is subject to the same variations in assumptions and amorphous, shifting pool of suspected voters as the professional pollers.
What will your excuse be when these polls come out fairly accurate (plus/minus the margin of error)? You need to be prepared.
October 26, 2008 at 7:03 pm
[...] Hey Eeyores: another take on those polls VIA VirginiaVirtuacon [...]
October 26, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Thanks for the great post! I am so encouraged! I am an AA female who will be voting for McCain/Palin. I cannot believe Obama got this far – no experience, no record, nothing, compared to Hillary and McCain with their track record of experience. If all you need to run for president are Ivy League degrees maybe I should also run for President. Is the bar so low? What are Americans thinking? This someone whose running mate (!) says he is weak and inexperienced, will be tested, and will make bad decisions. I believe Joe Biden.
P.S, Obamabots: I am not racist, a sellout etc, save your attacks and stop drinking the KoolAid.
Country first. Vote – McCain/Palin 08!!!
October 26, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Isn’t Obama up +12 in CO though–or is that just based on another bogus poll? There were 100,000 people at his Denver rally today. Ugh…such a nail biter.
October 26, 2008 at 7:42 pm
I’ve seen too many polls this election season… can’t we just go back to pie charts? :(
October 26, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Remember when the media simply reported the actual news? Now they are the news. I don’t know, there was the “Dewey defeats Truman” headlines back in the day. That was funnier than hanging chads. The American people should be smarter than that by now, but we keep ending up being lead around by the media leash.
October 26, 2008 at 8:52 pm
RipperM,
You must be an Obama supporter, but because we McCain supporters are much more professional and don’t spew hatred the way you do, I’m not going to tell you where to go. But I will tell you, you have no right to question someone else’s mental health just because they said something you don’t like or you don’t agree with.
October 26, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Oy, one person says one thing and another says something completely different. Oh, brother. Stop the ride, I wanna get off.
October 26, 2008 at 9:52 pm
We’ve been giving the doom-and-gloom polling numbers for several election cycles and I don’t think it’s really demoralized Republicans. I think everyone knows you can’t trust the polls, and they’re not about to let someone take away their vote. The Dems, on the other hand, consistently talk about high turnout, and then in the end everyone seems so sure they’re going to win (the polls said so!) that they stay home. Of course they make up for it with the deceased vote.
October 26, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Oh, and I also think McCain can win in PA even considering this hopefully honest appraisal. The results in the primary for Obama there were WAY off of the polling numbers.
October 26, 2008 at 10:53 pm
#24 exDemocrat Says:
October 25, 2008 at 11:54 pm
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Let’s kick Barry back to Chicago; which now, btw, has the highest murder rate of any city in the country. //
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Surely you weren’t suggesting that was the best place to get rid of the problem? ;)
October 26, 2008 at 10:56 pm
#25 # obama08 Says:
October 25, 2008 at 11:56 pm
My un-named source refutes all credible, named sources but is absolutely to be believed …. No really …//
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In this case, damn tootin’! Given the full-court press the MSM and pollsters and Obot freaks like your own self have put on, anyone telling the truth about crooked reporting and polling has good reason to stay anonymous.
October 26, 2008 at 11:04 pm
#35&36 # Paul N. Marston Says:
October 26, 2008 at 2:27 am
Let’s remember that electoral votes decide the election. Let’s remember that electoral votes decide the election. Of the red states, Iowa and New Mexico are gone. etc. …# Paul N. Marston Says:
October 26, 2008 at 2:27 am//
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Mebbe so, mebbe no. The AOL Straw Poll has been right the last 3 elections, and so far this week’s poll sits at McCain 535, Obama 3 (DC). Last week’s was a bit lower, but not much.
Backtrack is gonna get HAMMERED!
October 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
Paul Marston: Great analysis of the PUMA factor – I think you may be right!
October 27, 2008 at 2:24 am
You PUMAs are alright! And this is a welcome piece of good news.
If the states fall as described above, it doesn’t even come down to Colorado, New Hampshire, or Maine’s Second District. According to my chart, Obama could take all of those, and McCain would still have 28 states totalling 275 Electoral votes.
I’m a conservative. Anybody on Townhall.com can tell you that. And I won’t lie to you: McCain was not my first, second, or even third choice back during the primaries. I spat fire about his nomination.
But that might be the very reason he can win: he’s close enough to the center that we can all live with him.
I live in Texas, where Hillary won the primary by day by 3.5%, but the Obama people stormed the caucuses that night, resulting in the party finally giving up trying to count the ballots and awarding Obama more delegates. Nevada was a similar story: Hillary won by 5.5%, and Obama got more delegates. In short, Hillary was had, and I empathized with her fighting on to the bitter end. No stranger to controversy and no wilting flower, Hillary risked much by taking the game directly to Obama in the debates, and she earned my respect. I know we’ll always differ on a broad range of issues, but I promise to tip my hat to her next time we pass one another.
Thanks again for this insight. I pray you’re right.
October 27, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Drill Baby Drill
October 27, 2008 at 5:42 pm
IBD TIPP shows lead slipping,
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309546869309178
October 27, 2008 at 6:33 pm
#52 Jay Says:
October 26, 2008 at 11:11 am
I still think that as a group we should stop lying to the pollsters and come out for McCain en mass.//
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Wouldn’t do any good. The polling companies would just adjust their weighting to make you disappear.
October 27, 2008 at 7:51 pm
From a conservative:
Nice to see the Truman Democrats are not dead.
The Truman democrats are ones I could respect:
Honest, loved America, and were tough.
I didn’t see eye to eye with the Tip or Moynihan on every issue, but I respected them as honest, loyal, and genuinely interested in the well being of all Americans.
Not so with the current leadership of the Democratic party. [I refer to Obamabots.]
Communism and socialism ain’t pretty, and Democrats used to know that.
It’s good to see some still do.
I look forward to winning this election, and working [after the fall of the socialists] with my newly invigorated Democratic friends.
One question:
Is there quite a bit of unease about Obama among the base? How solid are the above numbers? And how much will the newly released bit about “spreading the wealth” and socialism hurt him with the base?
Respectfully,
Mike
October 27, 2008 at 8:00 pm
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October 27, 2008 at 8:06 pm
From a conservative:
Nice to see the Truman Democrats are not dead.
The Truman democrats are ones I could respect:
Honest, loved America, and were tough.
I didn’t see eye to eye with the Tip or Moynihan on every issue, but I respected them as honest, loyal, and genuinely interested in the well being of all Americans.
Not so with the current leadership of the Democratic party. [I refer to Obamabots.]
Communism and socialism ain’t pretty, and Democrats used to know that.
It’s good to see some still do.
I look forward to winning this election, and working [after the fall of the socialists] with my newly invigorated Democratic friends.
One question:
Is there quite a bit of unease about Obama among the base?
How solid are the above numbers?
And how much will the newly released bit about “spreading the wealth” and socialism hurt him with the base?
Respectfully,
Mike
October 28, 2008 at 8:55 am
If you are careful to call the right, first three numbers, in any given city, you can get the results you want. Those first three numbers give you an idea just whaich part of town you are talking to. Polls are worthless.
October 28, 2008 at 10:39 am
Sadly, the Democratic base seems willing to forgive and whitewash absolutely anything he says or does, even statements that completely contradict the most basic liberal/progressive ideas or goals. They either pretend not to hear or they twist his words around to suit whatever meaning they want: thus the famous W.O.R.M. (“What Obama Really Meant”) that comes out after every infuriating thing he spouts.
They are like the diehard Bush Republicans who refuse to hear a single negative thing about Bush. Unfortunately, there are a lot more of the Obama diehards than Bush diehards.
October 28, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Vote Obama… :)
October 29, 2008 at 12:06 am
Do any of you realize you are borderline fucking retarded? Like, seriously?
October 29, 2008 at 12:35 am
Each and every last one of you all should be committed (and no, not to the cause!)
November 13, 2008 at 2:13 am
whew! it all came down to Maine! Yes! Maine!
Oh wait! Reality!